Picard S2

Just watched the last 2 episodes (5 and 6)...sigh. Not sure what to say. I should know to expect to be disappointed with each new episode by now. I'm trying not to overanalyze it, but that's not the problem. The show has fundamental problems, not just nitpicks.

I'm no Trek expert by any means, but obviously neither are the writers of Picard. I wasn't a fan of adding the existence of a Borg queen in ST: First Contact (it broke with what we knew of the Borg presented in the TV series), but it sort of worked. I didn't like how emotional she was in that movie, going against to cold, emotionless, mechanical nature of the Borg, and now ST: Picard decided to go even further with it. Picard's queen seems very American too...I suppose she could have been an assimilated human, but it feels out of character.

Also, the Picard crew just leaves Jurati to fend for herself all the time, with the queen, at the party - she takes off and no one seems concerned. They all go to the clinic with Picard instead of sending someone to go find her and make sure she's okay. Dumb writing.

Speaking of dumb writing, Jurati singing has already been brought up. So the Borg queen planned for her to sing at the gala (how did she make this happen exactly?) so Jurati would release enough endorphins for the queen to take over...huh?

Glossing over the fact that human history will change from the uplifting Federation to the xenophobic, authoritarian regime of the Confederation because one astronaut (conveniently related to Jean-Luc) backs out of a mission, we get Picard, who already stated how crippling depression can be, talking her back into going on a presumably long space mission despite her mental disorder. So he basically talked her out of her clinical depression in a couple minutes. I guess the rigorous training and mental fitness required for astronauts doesn't really matter. I can't imagine anyone diagnosed with clinical depression would be deemed fit for a lengthy space flight. And it's not like Q did this, she obviously had these problems for years.

And has anyone else noticed the episodes have been getting shorter? The first of the season was 55 minutes, now we're down to 39 in episode 6. I guess I should be thankful, it's almost like they know they don't have enough material to sustain interest so they're cutting the episodes shorter to try to hide it.
 
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More thoughts about the "butterfly effect" that they mention but completely ignore whenever they choose:

In freeing Rios from the ICE bus, they decide they can't transport him off because it could be too disruptive to the time line, yet they knock out the guards and free all the deportees, not just Rios. Wouldn't they have all been deported or detained in the normal timeline? Isn't that making a huge change to the lives of everyone they decided to free, not to mention the guards that were probably fired for failing to do their jobs?

And Soong just runs over Picard in his Tesla (nice product placement there)? Are we to understand that there will be no repercussions to him for committing a hit and run that numerous people apparently observed (you can hear people talking about it in the background when Picard is on the ground bleeding his android blood)? I mean, there has to be cameras around at the entrance to the gala. This won't affect Soong's future?

Unless all this results in a retcon of the Picard timeline where Picard is no longer an android, I'll assume that none of this will have any effect on the original timeline. Maybe Picard will help Q get his powers back and he'll be grateful and snap everything back to normal. Q did say to Great Auntie Picard that not having anyone to love is pointless, so maybe this is leading up to him finally showing his love for Picard after all these years. It would probably make more sense than what's happened so far.
 
Does Q have his powers? If not where is he getting vials of magical miracle cure? Does he fish them out of the giant plothole that has been the hallmark of Kurtman /JJ Trek since the 2009 reboot?

I dont watch the show, I just catch the entertaining reviews by RLM so the Q powers thing might have been explained but I missed it.
 
Does Q have his powers? If not where is he getting vials of magical miracle cure? Does he fish them out of the giant plothole that has been the hallmark of Kurtman /JJ Trek since the 2009 reboot?

I dont watch the show, I just catch the entertaining reviews by RLM so the Q powers thing might have been explained but I missed it.
It will be explained in S4. Lol
 
Does Q have his powers? If not where is he getting vials of magical miracle cure? Does he fish them out of the giant plothole that has been the hallmark of Kurtman /JJ Trek since the 2009 reboot?

I dont watch the show, I just catch the entertaining reviews by RLM so the Q powers thing might have been explained but I missed it.

That’s the magic of “Mystery Box Storytelling”…

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Again, so much hand waving in Kurtzman Trek it's a wonder they aren't all flying around what they laughingly call the writers' room.
It also brings to mind the brilliant bit in the Office when David Brent casually points at the staff and says "they wont remember". It completely sums up everything about Kurtzman Trek.
Why have good characters and a compelling story when you can have "easter eggs" and cameos.
 
Does Q have his powers? If not where is he getting vials of magical miracle cure? Does he fish them out of the giant plothole that has been the hallmark of Kurtman /JJ Trek since the 2009 reboot?

I dont watch the show, I just catch the entertaining reviews by RLM so the Q powers thing might have been explained but I missed it.
That's an excellent question, for another time.

Why have good characters and a compelling story when you can have "easter eggs" and cameos.
The saddest part is they actually believe they're clever.
 
That's an excellent question, for another time.


The saddest part is they actually believe they're clever.


I suppose things have come full circle. Gene Roddenberry was a flawed person with brilliant ideas who wanted to reach out to an intelligent audience that he never talked down to, pandered to, or took for granted. STAR TREK found its audience, and became arguably the most obsessed-over show in the history of television. Dirty laundry was kept behind the scenes, and both the characters and the audience were treated with respect and dignity.

Now, it’s become literally the antithesis of everything he set out to do: It’s become expensive, brain-dead pap dictated by the whims of moronic corporate cogs, and which insults both the intelligence and the character of its audience.


All that’s left to do is ruthlessly mock it and call it out for what it is: Stupid, divisive, insulting nonsense. Watching it fail and die is more entertaining and enlightening than anything they’ve actually produced since 2009.
 
Star Trek Fans: Smugly smarter than everyone else. Especially anyone working on Star Trek.
Given the track record of Kurtzman's output it is a very low bar.
Ie he doesnt like the scrutiny and the quality of his work being compared to previous Star Trek he could always just hand the reigns to a more competent, insightful and appreciative pair of hands. Nobody is forcing him to muddle his way through this, he's there purely for the money.
 
Given the track record of Kurtzman's output it is a very low bar.
Ie he doesnt like the scrutiny and the quality of his work being compared to previous Star Trek he could always just hand the reigns to a more competent, insightful and appreciative pair of hands. Nobody is forcing him to muddle his way through this, he's there purely for the money.

The same thing has been said about every showrunner the franchise has seen until the next one takes over and then suddenly it's the new standard. Fans have a short memory for being so smart.
 
My theory is that in episode 10, Q reveals that he did this whole thing for Picard’s sake, because after all they’ve been through, he still considers Picard, “The closest thing he has to a friend in all the universe!”

He orchestrated this whole thing so that Picard could expel the last of his demons, quit being afraid to actually live for himself and give himself permission to love the Romulan woman (Laris I think it is?) and to spend his golden years living for himself and the woman he loves.

And since he’s Q, he’ll turn his highly advanced android body (Which several scientists tried for decades to reproduce Data and failed, but now 20 some years later, they’re everywhere, but I digress) into a flesh and blood Human once again.

OR

I expect that 1. He’ll create a brand new body for Picard, and then use golem Picard’s body to transfer Data into and repurpose it to look like a now aged Data, or, 2. He’ll just make the golem body real and then create a new android replica for the Data - data download.

I can’t image that Brent won’t be playing Data in season 3 with all of the rest of the cast coming back.

Which is also why I believe that Rios will stay behind. Agnes may become the actual new Borg queen, etc. We won’t need 17 main cast members for season 3.
 
Just watched the last 2 episodes (5 and 6)...sigh. Not sure what to say. I should know to expect to be disappointed with each new episode by now. I'm trying not to overanalyze it, but that's not the problem. The show has fundamental problems, not just nitpicks.

I'm no Trek expert by any means, but obviously neither are the writers of Picard. I wasn't a fan of adding the existence of a Borg queen in ST: First Contact (it broke with what we knew of the Borg presented in the TV series), but it sort of worked. I didn't like how emotional she was in that movie, going against to cold, emotionless, mechanical nature of the Borg, and now ST: Picard decided to go even further with it. Picard's queen seems very American too...I suppose she could have been an assimilated human, but it feels out of character.

Also, the Picard crew just leaves Jurati to fend for herself all the time, with the queen, at the party - she takes off and no one seems concerned. They all go to the clinic with Picard instead of sending someone to go find her and make sure she's okay. Dumb writing.

Speaking of dumb writing, Jurati singing has already been brought up. So the Borg queen planned for her to sing at the gala (how did she make this happen exactly?) so Jurati would release enough endorphins for the queen to take over...huh?

Glossing over the fact that human history will change from the uplifting Federation to the xenophobic, authoritarian regime of the Confederation because one astronaut (conveniently related to Jean-Luc) backs out of a mission, we get Picard, who already stated how crippling depression can be, talking her back into going on a presumably long space mission despite her mental disorder. So he basically talked her out of her clinical depression in a couple minutes. I guess the rigorous training and mental fitness required for astronauts doesn't really matter. I can't imagine anyone diagnosed with clinical depression would be deemed fit for a lengthy space flight. And it's not like Q did this, she obviously had these problems for years.

And has anyone else noticed the episodes have been getting shorter? The first of the season was 55 minutes, now we're down to 39 in episode 6. I guess I should be thankful, it's almost like they know they don't have enough material to sustain interest so they're cutting the episodes shorter to try to hide it.

Edit: vulcan but thinking about it...thats what happened to him lol
By the time the credits opened it was a brief 30 minutes this week coupled with the going back and fourth..enough with that trope! It was boring 20 years ago.. so not much content at all..

Oh I hope that young Vulcanised stays dead and why does everyone act so very 20th century..

Hey wasn't Q supposed to be in this series, I thought it was going to be a big adventure but so far its plain boring!

My wife met Alice Krige and various other ST characters over the years and loved TNG and ones after but even she is thinking of ditching the show..
 
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