OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet!‏

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Most licensors have final say on how a product is made and what it looks like. They often REQUIRE changes that make the items inaccurate. Welcome to the world of licensed replicas :). I, for one, am looking forward to this release; I only hope I can afford it when it drops.
 
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If you don't like it, you're free to go and make your own more accurate version... sure the side "tabs" next to the visors are a bit thick and the material isn't screen accurate, I't damn close for a licensed costume... most fandoms are lucky to have licensed costumes a third as good as Anovos.

This goes to all of you that are complaining, there is nothing forcing you to buy Anovos products, If you don't like their business model, don't buy from them. They haven't had the license for long, and product development takes awhile. As does learning how to work with your partner companies (licensor and manufacturing in this case). Negative, whiny attitudes won't help. Now if Anovos continues to have delays like EFX then we'll have an issue, but remember, this is a small niche market, companies that cater to us don't have the resources that companies that serve the general public do. If you want product fast... go buy Rubies.
 
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he was asking the ones they're using to make the movies, I figured they might use something like hdpe like afore ><
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I know. I was deliberately being a smartass. And this goes out to all of you getting a bit defensive on behalf of Anovos. Yes, they've had the license a relatively short time, but in that time they've already managed to miss the first delivery dates by a year and a half...and counting. On, let's not forget, paid-in-full pre-orders. Pleanty of good reasons it's happened, but it has happened. Based on what they've shown so far, I don't think anyone is cancelling pre-orders, and most people are prepared to stick it out, but some ribbing is not entirely out of line given the circumstances. Relax, Anovos is, more or less, owning the problems that have occurred, everyone who has plunked down cash seems pretty relaxed about their growing pains, so I don't think they are in dire need of defenders just yet.
 
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All licensees claim to have sourced the original to make their copies. While that may be true, they always fail to add the changes that have to be made for the production process, and cost.

The Anovos helmets are not accurate at all. There are numerous differences from material, to overall appearance. The oriignal helmets were made from a Poly material that Anovos stated was not cost effective to use on their product.

Their base line is ABS, and the premium line will be fiberglass. Both incorrect.

Pass.

Using HDPE like on the stunt helmets and stuff isn't a great idea as the material doesn't hold up at all. It was meant too or needed in production, but as they are a costuming company it would be counterproductive. If you want original stuff EFX's new lid is supposed to be the original materials however they are quite clear that you shouldn't wear or troop around in it and that it's for display only cause of that. Also ABS isn't completely incorrect, wasn't the original hero stuff ABS?
 
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Using HDPE like on the stunt helmets and stuff isn't a great idea as the material doesn't hold up at all. It was meant too or needed in production, but as they are a costuming company it would be counterproductive. If you want original stuff EFX's new lid is supposed to be the original materials however they are quite clear that you shouldn't wear or troop around in it and that it's for display only cause of that. Also ABS isn't completely incorrect, wasn't the original hero stuff ABS?

I am referring to the Force Awakens helmets. No they were not ABS.

EFX is no different than any other licensee.......they make big claims and always fall short. There are no licensed products that are true replicas of the items to which they are replicating, this holds true when it comes to Star Wars. There is always something off.
 
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There's also the matter of skewed expectations. We've gotten spoiled by cheap materials from China and their overworked, underpaid workforce. One of the things ANOVOS have to find is the balance between quality, cost, and MSRP. For instance, because of American cost of living and the typical costs for skilled labor, if one wanted a tailored Imperial Officer uniform, made from accurate materials, and designed for actual wear and not with the shortcuts of a movie costume, you're looking at over a thousand dollars for a bespoke suit. If we weren't at the wrong end of half a century of stagnant wages and ever-rising inflation, that wouldn't be so bad. But between the fact that most of the buying audience doesn't have the funds, and public expectations have been affected by cheap import goods, it can be tricky to find ways to cut overhead to keep the price down without sacrificing quality.

One way to do that is to take the actual manufacturing process to those overworked, underpaid factories overseas, but that adds in whole new layers of delay -- language barriers and misunderstandings or misinterpretations, cheaper materials not living up to hopes, much back and forth travel and communication, and ultimately the licensor's approval at every step of the process.

ANOVOS have said they're trying to find the best route through that minefield. They want to make quality costumes tha tstand up to years of actual use and being worn, but are also trying to keep costs down so they don't have to charge several grand each. So yeah, they're still experimenting with the best materials for the TFA Stormtrooper helmets to find the best fit to tick the customer satisfaction, ease of manufacture, and and lowest possible cost boxes. They're not changing their minds on a whim.

--Jonah
 
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I am referring to the Force Awakens helmets. No they were not ABS.

EFX is no different than any other licensee.......they make big claims and always fall short. There are no licensed products that are true replicas of the items to which they are replicating, this holds true when it comes to Star Wars. There is always something off.

Yes I know you were referring to TFA, I was saying maybe TFA helmets use some material other then ABS, PVC, or fiber. I dunno much about them :(

Yeah I know EFX make changes and I don't really want to preorder things from them but there is a good reason why Anovos and most won't use HDPE for the helmets and imo it's completely valid.... It's more expensive, it's not durable, it's not even the right color :p
 
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Hey all, the pics that were shown were taken way too hot for our liking so we are reshooting them. On top of that, the helmet pictured was an early prototype. We are loading up the actual injection in just a week. Sharp is an understatement with this injected helmet and can't wait to 1. Getting our lighting right, 2. Show off the production sample.

Hey, any idea when these pics of the production sample are going up? I'd love to get in on this initial run before the end of the month but I'm not comfortable committing money to it until I see what changes are being made to correct some of the known issues with the pre release helmets.
 
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Hey all, the pics that were shown were taken way too hot for our liking so we are reshooting them. On top of that, the helmet pictured was an early prototype. We are loading up the actual injection in just a week. Sharp is an understatement with this injected helmet and can't wait to 1. Getting our lighting right, 2. Show off the production sample.

Same as the above posts Got Maul - new photos eta?


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Anyone have an extra coupon by chance?
 
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Those pictures do look much better...now when are we getting the full set? Eager to know whether I can afford the kit or not!
 
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Being realistic here .. the pictures DO look a lot better .. but if it's the same product, we will still get the helmet which was pictured in the first set that looked cheap. I'm all Anovos, but doesn't it make that set selling a product that looks better than what we're gonna get? With 5 days to go, I'll probably still pre-order it but will watch the next one with more interest.
 
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Whipped this comparison together real quick. I think it looks better now. Unfortunate that the brow is different but not right, but it looks like we can add whatever piece of rubber trim/etc. to make it more accurate. So that is definitely an improvement.


edit: So after studying further it seems like the space under the clip is still missing. The panel line on the back looks off where it goes to a sharp angle. This may just be the angle of the photos or a necessity for how they pull and assemble this abs version.
 
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Yesterday, Anovos shared on facebook a picture of their stand at the Salt Lake Comic Con, there are some helmets on display so I had to ask if they were the newer versions (for all the reason you guys already mentioned before), they have yet to reply but in the meantime, they shared a picture of the interior of the helmet. I'm still waiting for other pictures to be released, I guess I'll have to wait until the last minute to decide to get one or not, this during the september pre-order discount period.

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That interior looks incredibly cheap to me. Even for a $200-$300 helmet.
 
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I swear, some people are absolutely just unable to be pleased with anything. If this quality bucket was offered just 10 years ago people would be just acting like it was the best thing ever made. I'd like to see any of you offer something of this quality for that price. Any of you.
 
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And bear in mind that hard hat rigging has been the bucket-to-head interface of choice for nearly 40 years. I call that authenticity, not cheap -- never mind whether it's my interface of choice and whether I'd instantly rip it out to put in a full interior... :$

--Jonah
 
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got to agree the interior looks like a cheap bucket. For the price you would expect something better, I sure hope thats not the final product.

Hopefully the premium version will be a lot better I for one will be holding out until that one is released I just sure hope that the $800 isnt the tier 1 pre order price.

I was doing the math and for those who wish to pre order this one in waiting for the premium to come out and doing the upgrade option that anovos is offering out it seems that the only down fall of doing that will be that you will be paying for the premium version in full ($800 minus the $200 already paid = $600 difference) rather then waiting for the premium to be released and just using a promo code thus total would be about $720 before shipping. even is promo code was used for standard version you will still have to pay the difference to come to the full $800 (if that is the true pre order price)
 
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Whipped this comparison together real quick. I think it looks better now. Unfortunate that the brow is different but not right, but it looks like we can add whatever piece of rubber trim/etc. to make it more accurate. So that is definitely an improvement.


edit: So after studying further it seems like the space under the clip is still missing. The panel line on the back looks off where it goes to a sharp angle. This may just be the angle of the photos or a necessity for how they pull and assemble this abs version.


looks like the first helmet got bubble lens...the last one (anovos) doesn't...
 
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