OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet!‏

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  1. cyberpyrot

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    OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper He...

    I gotta wait. There are some edges that seem too soft, and the thickness of those cheek tabs next to the eyes somehow makes it look dopier than the streamlined film helmets. I know Anovos has said that this is modeled after a production helmet and that there must be subtle variations, but in all of the trailers, BTS, articles, promotional photography and event displays I've only yet seen the sharper, leaner, meaner helmet.
     
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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    Does anyone know if this will be the only First Order Stormtrooper helmet they will be offering. Or will there be a more premier one?
     
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    Hopefully the full armour set won't be too far behind...
     
  5. Cry-Lo Ren

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    i remember seeing a youtube video where they speak of having a regular version for $200 and then a more high accurate one later on this year for something like $600-$800 so best to hold off
     
  6. Cry-Lo Ren

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    ok so word in from the anovos Facebook and i quote

    " this standard version has a simplified interior with an adjustable hardhat-type suspension system. A Premier line version of this helmet is in the works which will feature an upgraded interior as well as other features. More detailed to come"

    and then when asked about the price for the premier version they said,

    "pricing is still being finalized however we're looking at around $700-$800"

    dam that is more then the vader it better come super screen accurate with built in fans lol.

    So i guess we can just used this $200 for display, kids, and occasional cost-play and then wait for the premier line for display purposes. well at least that is probably how I will be using mines for :D
     
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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    I hope it will be more screen accurate than the ones they had on display at Celebration, and which the 501st got access to. They are nice, but there are quite a few inaccuracies there.
    Now I'm sure those are very early versions and they have spent a lot more time on the ones that they will actually sell later on. But the ones we have seen so far are definitely not worth $700-800.
    Especially the brow line not sticking out irritates me to no end! :p


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    These are not my photo's btw. The right one is one of the costumes that was on display at Celebration. The left one is an Anovos one.
     
  8. Cry-Lo Ren

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    which helmet is the one on the left? that thing looks so far from the the on the right you would think rubies made it lol

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    ops nevermind i just saw your mention under the photo, wow if that is anovos then I will defiantly pass on that one.
     
  9. Westies14

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    The design we've seen so far matches what you can buy now for $200 (or later for $250). Hopefully the $700-800 fiberglass one that comes down the road will have the brow, white cheek tab thickness, and other details corrected. To be completely fair, the different focal lengths of those images raise issues that aren't there with broad geometry and the lighting on the film helmet better shows scribed details and the form overall.
     
  10. RVeldhuyzen

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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    That is a good point. But the smooth edges that should be quite sharp, the missing brow and the cheek tabs are definitely there and I would love to see those corrected :)
     
  11. JBReplicas

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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    Also I think the helmet in the right of that image is one of the screen helmets.
     
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    It is; that's why they're comparing the two!
     
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    Ah I just read Celebration display and thought it was being suggested that the other was also an Anovos, I know one Anovos suit was displayed and then there was the separate screen used displays, carry on. :)
     
  14. Got Maul

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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    Hey all, the pics that were shown were taken way too hot for our liking so we are reshooting them. On top of that, the helmet pictured was an early prototype. We are loading up the actual injection in just a week. Sharp is an understatement with this injected helmet and can't wait to 1. Getting our lighting right, 2. Show off the production sample.
     
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    I can't wait either as you got me, my order is in!
     
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    That sounds good. I can't wait to see the actual product :)
     
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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet


    Video of helmet unboxing

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    Looks like possibly thinner white cheek tabs on the helmet in that unboxing video! Was that a last minute revision?
     
  19. Al May

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    Hey Got Maul,

    if customers buy this bucket will they have the opportunity to purchase just the ABS armour on its own when it's available to the public? , i would hold out if I cant get the suit without the helmet in the future as I don't need two buckets.would be greatful if you could clear this up.
     
  20. Kerr Avon

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    Is that a prototype? Or they already in production for the VII helmets?
     
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    anyone else watch that video thinking "just get the helmet out of the * box!" ? Terrible video too, no mention of the quality of the helmet
     
  22. Kerr Avon

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    I'm considering preordering one, but would like to use those 10% coupons. Anyone have one they aren't using? When/where were they sent out, I don't think I received one.
     
  23. Cry-Lo Ren

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    they are sent out when ever you place a order and is only active for 2 weeks, normally they fall in your junk mail as that is where I normally have found mine.
     
  24. Kerr Avon

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    I apparently didn't get one because I ordered 'too early' on the TK armor. Ah well, I got one now, thanks!

    And got a 10% discount code with the new order. If anyone needs one, let me know, it's good for 2 weeks.
     
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  25. Seth The Nerd

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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    This picture was posted by Navajo Bro on his build thread here: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/32859-navajo-bros-build-with-questions/

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    The cheek tabs are definitely thinner, I would say movie accurate. Keep in mind that this is the fiberglass version that only 501st members have gotten so far. Hopefully the same mold will be used on both.
     
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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    I guess we'll have to wait for the new product pictures to be sure! Hopefully they're of the actual production helmet.
     
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    Can't recall if it is here Or Facebook anovos but they plan on having more photos before the month is over.

    Will offer the ability to upgrade to the premium version at any time

    Also include inside shots as well -

    anovos has been VERY responsive on their Facebook page and rpf threads

    Great to see that kind of engagement
     
  28. Mr Mold Maker

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    It concerns me he also mentions cracked helmets and loose linings. For 7-8 hundred dollars, I'd expect it to be the highest quality fiberglass and glue on the market....
     
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    I'm remaining optimistic yet as even they have said that the celebration kits that we have seen are prototype kits and have made lots of changes since then
     
  30. Westies14

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    The celebration/501st helmets were being assembled by hand by the anovos staff right to the last possible second. A production run of the fiberglass versions should be a bit more precise and well-assembled.
     
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    While I appreciate them upping their social relations game, it seems all we get out of them is delays and apologies. Have they actually shipped any "production" Star Wars product to date? (Not trying to be a smart *, I honestly don't know. I stop following after I cancelled my trooper order.)

    Personally, the "promise" of quality means diddly squat to me. As soon as they start delivering on these promises I'll give them credit where it is due.... Until then, I reserve my right to be VERY skeptical.
     
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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    While the last couple of months has made me a bit warry as well, I am comforted a bit by the pic of production Solo gun belts weathered and almost ready to go. That's the first product they've actually been able to demonstrate that they are close to shipping on, which is a good start anyways. Just hope they keep it up.
     
  33. Al May

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    Cool idea allowing an upgrade( paying the difference) at the time of shipping, I really hope things go well next year with these buckets, both for us the customers and for Anovos
     
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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    We're the screen used helmets made from abs or fiberglass?
     
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    probably neither
     
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    Re: OOOOO Anovos announces another Pre-Order ---- The First Order Stormtrooper Helmet

    I started a support ticket with Anovos when they released the TFA First Order Stormtrooper Helmet to find out when the rest of the armor would be available and whether the helmet was always sold separately or as a set. This was the reply:


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    [TH]09/04/2015 11:27 am[/TH]
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    [TD="class: thread-body"]Hi Alan,

    We will be offering the rest of the armor within the next 30 to 60 days, and we plan on offering the armor as a set to include the helmet.


    Then I asked what the prices would be and whether the different trim lines would be available. This was the response:


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    [TH]09/08/2015 12:58 am[/TH]
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    [TD="class: thread-body"]Hi Alan,

    This is still being worked on. When we have more information, we'll be passing this along via our newsletter. If you haven't done so already, please subscribe by going to: http://bit.ly/anovosnews[/TD]
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    I was already subscribed to their newsletter, but when I clicked on the link to update my subscription there was an additional news category called
    Star Wars™: The Force Awakens Notification List, which I was not subscribed to, so I am now!
     
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    Good share there mate! The good news is anovos has a full refund cancellation policy so one could pre-order and then cancel if one feels that they want to pick up the full armor with helmet. Like that there's flexibility there
     
  38. Timmythekid

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    Most likely a custom formulated PVC product. No, wait, they were ABS. No, no hang on, now it's PVC again...
    :angel
     
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    he was asking the ones they're using to make the movies, I figured they might use something like hdpe like afore ><
     
  40. Hollywood

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    All licensees claim to have sourced the original to make their copies. While that may be true, they always fail to add the changes that have to be made for the production process, and cost.

    The Anovos helmets are not accurate at all. There are numerous differences from material, to overall appearance. The oriignal helmets were made from a Poly material that Anovos stated was not cost effective to use on their product.

    Their base line is ABS, and the premium line will be fiberglass. Both incorrect.

    Pass.
     
  41. benhs1898

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    Most licensors have final say on how a product is made and what it looks like. They often REQUIRE changes that make the items inaccurate. Welcome to the world of licensed replicas :). I, for one, am looking forward to this release; I only hope I can afford it when it drops.
     
  42. Gnar Gnar Jinn

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    If you don't like it, you're free to go and make your own more accurate version... sure the side "tabs" next to the visors are a bit thick and the material isn't screen accurate, I't * close for a licensed costume... most fandoms are lucky to have licensed costumes a third as good as Anovos.

    This goes to all of you that are complaining, there is nothing forcing you to buy Anovos products, If you don't like their business model, don't buy from them. They haven't had the license for long, and product development takes awhile. As does learning how to work with your partner companies (licensor and manufacturing in this case). Negative, whiny attitudes won't help. Now if Anovos continues to have delays like EFX then we'll have an issue, but remember, this is a small niche market, companies that cater to us don't have the resources that companies that serve the general public do. If you want product fast... go buy Rubies.
     
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    .
    I know. I was deliberately being a smartass. And this goes out to all of you getting a bit defensive on behalf of Anovos. Yes, they've had the license a relatively short time, but in that time they've already managed to miss the first delivery dates by a year and a half...and counting. On, let's not forget, paid-in-full pre-orders. Pleanty of good reasons it's happened, but it has happened. Based on what they've shown so far, I don't think anyone is cancelling pre-orders, and most people are prepared to stick it out, but some ribbing is not entirely out of line given the circumstances. Relax, Anovos is, more or less, owning the problems that have occurred, everyone who has plunked down cash seems pretty relaxed about their growing pains, so I don't think they are in dire need of defenders just yet.
     
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    Using HDPE like on the stunt helmets and stuff isn't a great idea as the material doesn't hold up at all. It was meant too or needed in production, but as they are a costuming company it would be counterproductive. If you want original stuff EFX's new lid is supposed to be the original materials however they are quite clear that you shouldn't wear or troop around in it and that it's for display only cause of that. Also ABS isn't completely incorrect, wasn't the original hero stuff ABS?
     
  45. Hollywood

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    I am referring to the Force Awakens helmets. No they were not ABS.

    EFX is no different than any other licensee.......they make big claims and always fall short. There are no licensed products that are true replicas of the items to which they are replicating, this holds true when it comes to Star Wars. There is always something off.
     
  46. Inquisitor Peregrinus

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    There's also the matter of skewed expectations. We've gotten spoiled by cheap materials from China and their overworked, underpaid workforce. One of the things ANOVOS have to find is the balance between quality, cost, and MSRP. For instance, because of American cost of living and the typical costs for skilled labor, if one wanted a tailored Imperial Officer uniform, made from accurate materials, and designed for actual wear and not with the shortcuts of a movie costume, you're looking at over a thousand dollars for a bespoke suit. If we weren't at the wrong end of half a century of stagnant wages and ever-rising inflation, that wouldn't be so bad. But between the fact that most of the buying audience doesn't have the funds, and public expectations have been affected by cheap import goods, it can be tricky to find ways to cut overhead to keep the price down without sacrificing quality.

    One way to do that is to take the actual manufacturing process to those overworked, underpaid factories overseas, but that adds in whole new layers of delay -- language barriers and misunderstandings or misinterpretations, cheaper materials not living up to hopes, much back and forth travel and communication, and ultimately the licensor's approval at every step of the process.

    ANOVOS have said they're trying to find the best route through that minefield. They want to make quality costumes tha tstand up to years of actual use and being worn, but are also trying to keep costs down so they don't have to charge several grand each. So yeah, they're still experimenting with the best materials for the TFA Stormtrooper helmets to find the best fit to tick the customer satisfaction, ease of manufacture, and and lowest possible cost boxes. They're not changing their minds on a whim.

    --Jonah
     
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    Yes I know you were referring to TFA, I was saying maybe TFA helmets use some material other then ABS, PVC, or fiber. I dunno much about them :(

    Yeah I know EFX make changes and I don't really want to preorder things from them but there is a good reason why Anovos and most won't use HDPE for the helmets and imo it's completely valid.... It's more expensive, it's not durable, it's not even the right color :p
     
  48. work22

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    Hey, any idea when these pics of the production sample are going up? I'd love to get in on this initial run before the end of the month but I'm not comfortable committing money to it until I see what changes are being made to correct some of the known issues with the pre release helmets.
     
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    Same as the above posts Got Maul - new photos eta?


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
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    Anyone have an extra coupon by chance?
     

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