OK, so which one of you is Guy Raz?

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MattMunson

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A conversation with a fellow board member recently got me the confirmation I needed. Guy Raz is indeed reading this forum. But is he posting?

What do you think? Not trying to call for a witch hunt, but I find this deeply disturbing.

I knew from the moment of his most recent banning that there would be NO WAY POSSIBLE for him to simply disappear. His addiction to the internet, the hobby, and his penchant for anti-social behaviors made that a fait accompli. But I could always sweep it under the rug of my mind, as I didn't know FOR SURE.

But now I do. Seeing as how I was one of the folks on the receiving end of his last public melt down, I'm extra creeped out. Am I alone?

There's been a number of times over the past year that I've posted things that I feel confident that he has taken note of. His sideline hobby seems to be collecting tidbits on people that he can one day use against them. He tried it with me. The good news is that he's a terrible detective, and draws crazy conclusions from insignificant details. The bad news is that he's a terrible detective, and draws crazy conclusions from insignificant details. Combine this with his proven track record of "taking it to the streets" by turning online fights into real world wars, and I'm extra concerned for everyone on this forum.

See where I'm going with this??

Anyhow, is there anything that can be done? Should anything be done? Will this thread be deleted as soon as a mod sees it??? :)
 
Well, I don't know if he's back or not, anything is possible when open registration comes around. I mean it's fairly easy to sneak in with the newest gaggle of vitims...I mean, members :lol - and go unnoticed for a while.

But as I recall, his last incarnation was well liked by many people here on the board, so I don't know about the anti-social tendecies factor. Maybe there's just more than one creepy guy hangin' around the ol' RPF.

-Fred
 
Creepy, Mr. Munson, and worrying to boot. I was creeped out just having talked to the guy a few times on the board then finding out his back story (for the record, about the only worse thing would be if some other member lived like George Wendt ala Masters of Horror's episode, Family) so while this doesn't surprise me (he wouldn't have comeback under a false identity before if he could keep himself away) it is something to be extra mindful of.
 
Not much can be done to keep him from reading the forums.

Well, there is, but it's a bit overkill, and would lock out a great many innocent people.
 
Gigatron said:
But as I recall, his last incarnation was well liked by many people here on the board, so I don't know about the anti-social tendecies factor.

-Fred
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Wouldn't baldly lying about yourself to engender friendly feelings from others be "anti-social"?

I'm sure Matt's talking about being anti-social in the psychological sense, not in the "Oh, Bill's such a dick at parties," sense.
 
As soon as I read the title of this thread, my heart went right into my stomach. "Oh crap, this guy is back again?" was my only thought. You're right though, the possibility is there. I remember the few defenders his last incarnation had. What ever happened to those guys? (Or that one kid)
 
Gigatron said:
But as I recall, his last incarnation was well liked by many people here on the board, so I don't know about the anti-social tendecies factor. Maybe there's just more than one creepy guy hangin' around the ol' RPF.

-Fred
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Fred,
You're right about the "well liked" part, and that's the part of the story that many find most disturbing. Recall that he was banned from the RPF for threatening real world action against board members. I beleive he even phoned members employers to try to get them in trouble, or fired. Then he spent 2 years in jail. THEN he came back to the RPF under an assumed name in violation of his ban, never revealed his real identity, though continued to behave in ways that lead to his original banning.

That he made some friends along the way as a result of his passion for the hobby and interesting discoveries is a moot point. (or "mute" point, as many RPEffers prefer :) )

The fact of the matter is that he's been banned from the board more than once. Each of those bans are still in effect. I believe those bans were for important and relevant reasons, which still remain today.

Yet here he is. Reading the forum, and communicating with its members. I'm 100% confident that the administration does not want this. Yet what is there to be done? We cannot ban all IPs in Pasadena, or wherever it is he's living now. He's proven he's capable of deceiving the entire RPF population for years at a time, so he won't be easy to find anytime soon. He's obviously not going to follow the rules of the forum.
 
For the record, I'm not probing the hypothetical with this thread.

GUY RAZ IS ON THE RPF.

No doubt in my mind.
 
Look for new members that coinicide with Doc's OT forum. The RPF and the OT are on his must join list.
 
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Hmmmmm interesting. Have you told the admin about this personally or showed any proof? Not saying that you're lying, because you'd be one of the first people I believe on here, but still.

I seemed to somehow miss alot of the Raz thing, because I was in a RPF lul not checking the baords and whatnot, but I read about it and damn, if you need any support I'll be the first one to help out.

But aside from finding out exactly what IP is used and shut that account down... I don't know what is possible? It's really tough because there isn't a questionare that can be asked before you joined. Like have you ever...etc etc. And of course no one would admit.

And if you're not logged in you can still read right? Well can the mods make it a private forum where only members can read? It might be a big step, and people can still get in, but it'd be that extra little bit of security?
 
MattMunson said:
For the record, I'm not probing the hypothetical with this thread.

GUY RAZ IS ON THE RPF.

No doubt in my mind.
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Oh I'm fairly confident he's a registered member. At least, it wouldn't surprise me at all...

Further, there are a few choice moguls from our checkered past that have also been very publicly banned that I likewise would be equally UNsurprised to learn have re-registered.

Certain posts from certain newbies have brought back certain "old feelings"....
 
MattMunson said:
For the record, I'm not probing the hypothetical with this thread.

GUY RAZ IS ON THE RPF.

No doubt in my mind.
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Reading the forums as a "guest" is one thing... not much can be done about that (although accessing the internet may be a violation of his parole). But creating a sockpuppet and actively participating on the forum is another. Do you know if he is a registered member?
 
Yup, I think there's many correct statements here. There really isn't much we can do about it, other than be aware. Banning an IP is overkill, and he can always work around that. There's IP spoofers out there. Ban the account, he creates a new one. Lock the board down, you can get around that simply. It's a bummer.

Also for the record, I don't have "smoking gun" proof. I have the proof that I needed to convince myself. Many of you know me to be a reasonable person, and perhaps that is enough to convince you. If you're not convinced, that's OK too. I encourage discussion on possibilities, and you're of course free to conclude whatever you want.

Even if I didn't have the proof I now have, I personally always knew in the back of my head that he would not be able to keep away, and would be here somehow.

But that's just me.

There IS proof to be had, but I cannot be the one to present it. I'll leave that to those that are capable.
 
So, for somewhat new people who aren't quite sure of this whole situation. What should we be wary of...like what has this guy done in the past?
 
Ummm, paranoia is a real bummer, dude.
While you're at it, stop driving your car! You could die in a wreck!
Hell, while you're at it just don't leave your home! (oh wait...you could slip in the tub. Ummm...stop taking baths as well)
My point being is SO WHAT?! Stop being a baby and welcome to the real world. Of course he's here. So is Greg Stone, hyphen, Dennis, Rob, moogybaby, etc. etc. etc. They're all here. Are you that naive that you think you are bringing this to our attention as a new revelation???
The mods can't possibly catch all the sockpuppets. Honestly, kudos to them for the ones they DO catch. Better that you stop worrying about it, pull up your big boy pants, and move on with your life. :rolleyes
 
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