Official Star Trek Phaser Thread

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by franz bolo, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    What is a Franklin Mint Star Trek 30th Anniv. PhaserÂ*worth?
    Are they accurate at all?

    I just got an Art Asylum Original Series Phaser and my son loves it. I was wondering about other toy versions/brands. I heard the Coyle and MR are really nice, but it's for my son and not me.

    I had a toy one when I was a kid around 1975 I think, but don't know what brand it was. If anyone has any pics of different phasers, I'd appreciate it if you can post them.

    Thanks

    FB
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2010
  2. aniskywalker

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    The Franklin Mint phaser looks pretty bad. :confused

    I looked at it a few years ago, saw it , said NO thanks.

    It has gold accents ect... It looks like a 'Pimped' out version of the phaser. :eek:

    There was one sold on e-bay that went for around $80.

    There is another toy one out with the white handle. It has a thread here somewhere with a link.
    :D
     
  3. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Franklin Mint phaser: garish, overpriced, hokey, not accurate. Apparently based on the Playmates phaser (see below)

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    Playmates toys phaser: not accurate, but the first "not totally ridiculous" licensed version of the phaser that was available. Used by the "Starship Exeter" fan film as a prop.

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    23rd Century Pistol Kit: unlicensed but "mass produced" styrene model kit of the phaser. For a long time this was the best you could get. Very close to the "dummy" or "midgrade" prop used on the show, but the p2 body is too wide in the top profile. Also the p2 heatsink fins are "squared off" in front, they should be angled. But if modified this kit can make a darn fine replica. Can still be found on ebay for $30 or so.

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    HMS/Roddenberry.com phaser: screen-accurate (to the prop used on Deep Space Nine's TOS tribute episode "Trials and Tribbleations", made by the HMS prop company), one of the better replicas on the "licensed" market

    Rodd.com built-up kit
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    HMS Studios prop built for DS9
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    Art Asylum phaser: screen accurate (one of these unmodified toys was used as a phaser prop in the "Star Trek Enterprise" epsidode "In a Mirror Darkly"). Nearly identical to the HMS/Roddenberry.com phaser shown above, but introduces a few errors not present on that model (side ribs that curve up, side knob missing its round rim, inaccurate "popup" targeting sight). Nevertheless, the best reasonably-priced toy replica of the phaser ever made, and can be modified with metal parts to make a darn fine replica for a minimum of money)

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    Master Replicas phaser: Oh, so very close. The best licensed replica ever made (so far). Modeled closely on an actual surviving hero phaser prop. Introduces a few subtle errors (shape of the p1 hand phaser is wrong in the top profile, subtle errors in the p2 body shape). First licensed replica to have an accurate paint job. Includes accurate "rising sight plate" on the p1 and great digital sound and light effects. Very very nice for the money (at original price anyway).

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    Richard Coyle "late" version: a fan replica by a master. This was sold thru Roddenberry.com for a brief period. Includes digital sound and light effects. Styling more accurate to the prop than Coyle's early efforts (early Coyle phasers are recognizable by the large red "Radio Shack" button used as a trigger switch).

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    see RAC's site for a fantastic history of fan replica phasers from the early days thru the nineties.

    http://www.racprops.com/issue3/copycats_photos/


    Brad Nelson phaser: sold at conventions; not accurate to screenused prop, but larger and more idealized (in some ways better than the acutal prop; this is the "phaser of the mind's eye", the phaser as it should have been). Some were purchased by Gene Roddenberry and would have been used in the Star Trek Phase II TV series that was in preproduction in 1978 (only to be canceled to make way for Star Trek the Motion Picture).

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    There are many other fan replicas that have been made over the years, some more accurate than others. :D

    Here's the thread on the new "white handled" version of the Art Asylum phaser. Bottom line: repaint of the earlier version, not accurate to that version of the prop, save your money).

    http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?...01589&hl=phaser


    - Karl
     
  4. trekprops.de

    trekprops.de Well-Known Member

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    *, that is a very nice roundup of the existing TOS Phaser Replicas. Thanks Karl.

    This gave me a long overdue overview, cause I'm a TNG-and-later kind of guy...
     
  5. Jimbo890

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    Great list. One kit that got left out is the Masterpiece Models, based on the John Long study of the Greg Jein hero. About as accurate as you can get. These were a limited run production, but were licensed. Its mostly a resin kit, with a few metal parts. Only down side was a few quality control issues with the 'second run'.

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    but if you can find one, get it.
     
  6. blufive

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    PhasePistol *might* have left the MM phaser out on purpose.

    ;)
     
  7. Jimbo890

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    LOL. Yep, I think he might have too. :) But, I thought it was prudent to list the MM, along with the others.
     
  8. jhusel

    jhusel Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Here are a few of my phasers

    MR TOS
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    Rod.com/Coyle TOS
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    Rod.com/HMS TOS
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    Rod.com/HMS TOS Phaser Rifle
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    Art Asylum TOS
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    Rod.com/HMS Cage
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    MR First Contact Phaser
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    Rod.com/HMS Boomerang Phaser
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    IPI TNG Cobra Phaser
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    Art Asylum Phase Pistol
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  9. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    WoW, Thanks for all the insightfull info...

    I have an Art Asylum Phaser, so how could I modify it with Metal Parts?

    thanks

    FB
     
  10. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    To tell the truth I left out the MM because I forgot it was licensed. :lol

    I didn't want to get too deep into individual fan replicas, but since it came up... ;)

    John Long/Masterpiece Models phaser: this kit seems to my eye to be based on an early replica built by Long before examining the Greg Jein phaser in person - or maybe it's actually based on the Jein prop directly but with excessive "compensation for the molding process" which bottom line means the form is too "chunky" and square looking out of the box.

    With some work it can be wrangled into a good replica, but the kit is solid resin and must be hogged out to make room for interior mechanisms. This is one of Long's own buildups of the kit.

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    Here's Long's page on the phaser and his adventures with it. Lots of original prop pictures tho, so check it out.

    http://www.saucersoverhollywood.com/phaserpage.html

    Todd Mustacio phaser: This is an excellent fan replica, I do not own one myself but someone else can chime in. The one I saw in person was quite impressive.

    DStines "Ultimate" phaser: another very fine replica, with elaborate digital sound and light effects.

    ATL phaser: Well I participated in this project myself, so forgive me for not being objective. This replica was not available to the public, it was a personal project to see how close we could get to the original prop just based on the meagre reference material available. Times have changed: the photos posted on John Long's site linked above are better than what we had to work with. :lol

    The ATL features authentic styling, and painstaking reconstruction of the interior mechanisms built into the original prop. No LEDs and digital sound effects here; it's all levers and wheels and grain-'o-wheat lightbulbs. A fantastic job done by master craftsman Centralrepair. :D


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    I have left out other fine work done by individuals here, so please continue to chime in and show your replicas. :D

    - k
     
  11. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    God I wish a run would have been done of the ATL Phaser.

    Man I love that Phaser...
     
  12. amish

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    Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome.. Thank you all so much for those pics, I now must go out and find one of those fine replicas mentioned... Which one, I have no idea.

    Great information.

    Tom
     
  13. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Is it possible to add a Market Value price for these items?

    I just got a Classic Phaser on eBay for $21.00 but I have no clue if I got a deal or not. My son is going to love this toy..

    The AA is great, but I think he would break it because it's not that hefty. I assume the Playmate one is built tougher.

    thanks

    FB
     
  14. Cyland Props

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    First off the MM phaser was based directly off the GJ phaser. The "larger" phaser that you and quite a few of your friends refer to was done months before we examined the original Hero Phaser. Infact we brought it along with us when we documented the Hero, it can be seen in some of the photos. It ,the larger phaser, was only a one off. The MM kit IS the correct size. The whole idea that John substituted the larger phaser as the MM kit phaser is uterly laughable and a poor attempt to diminish the MM.

    This rumor was started to sell more "accurate" kits (which were not accurate) by unlicenced prop makers.

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    Second the pictures of the MM build is of an MM kit built as a Hero with full tilt functions like the original Heros. John built two MM kits up as Hero no static models.
     
  15. KUROK

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    The TOS phaser is my favorite prop. 'nuff said.
     
  16. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    When it first came out the AA listed for about $16 I think. The current edition lists for about $20. At those prices I think it's a pretty good deal. Buy a case of six to save even more. ;)

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    The Playmates is indeed "sturdier" than the AA. It's built as one solid lump, no separable P1. And look at all those screws. :lol

    - k
     
  17. Jimbo890

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    Can you name this one?

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  18. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Mustacio?
     
  19. jhusel

    jhusel Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That is what I was thinking, especially since the url ends with "Toddm.jpg" lol

    jhusel
     
  20. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Where can you buy a case of them from?
     
  21. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I didn't think to look. :lol

    really hard to tell from that angle tho, good one.

    - k
     
  22. jhusel

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  23. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    [​IMG]

    Go to New Force Comics... you can get a case of six new 2005 issue AA phasers (identical to the first issue except for the copyright notice on the package) for $110 shipped.

    http://newforcecomics.com/Merchant2/mercha...gory_Code=AASTC

    They also have the B&W version (Newforce exclusive) for $130 (shipped) the case.

    - k
     
  24. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    I wanted a case of the Playmates ones. I thought that was what you were talking about.

    I want to give them to kids. The AA ones will break.

    thanks

    FB
     
  25. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    D'oh. Sorry. :$

    The Playmates have been out of production for maybe ten years now. Your best bet is to pick 'em up as they come up on ebay. Don't pay ripoff prices tho, I've seen 'em listed for $100 in some ebay stores. :confused

    - k
     
  26. Jimbo890

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    :lol Yep, Todd M. This is my favorite so far.
     
  27. stingray

    stingray Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Would anyone care to guess which Phaser this is? It is not the best picture in the world and there is something in the picture that will probably give it away. Please note that the Phaser stand is for a Franklin Mint Phaser, but the Phaser itself is not a Franlin Mint.

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  28. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Upgraded Art Asylum with metal parts.
     
  29. Jimbo890

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    Yep. The "Dial gauge" gives it away.

    Its a beauty.
     
  30. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I was actually looking at the tenturn. :D

    But yeah, she cleans up real nice. :thumbsup

    Art Asylum: the affordable styrene Phaser kit (some disassembly required). :p

    - k
     
  31. stingray

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    Yep it is an Art Asylum.

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  32. SWFreak

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    So where can one go to find out how to upgrade a Art Asylum phaser? I'd be interested in parts, paint colors and or a tutorial.

    Thanks
    -Chris
     
  33. aniskywalker

    aniskywalker Active Member

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    Same here. Where do you get your metal parts ect... :)
     
  34. uscm buzz

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    Go to ASAP forum.. and put your request in the WTB column at the bottom of the forum.. then if someone does a run they will contact you.. No metal parts are available at this time though.. Cmanium.. does a run every now and then.. but I have contacted him and he dont have any..
     
  35. uscm buzz

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    Well since fan made replicas are being mentioned.. .. Here is my phaser I just did.. its a 23rd Century Recast..back several years ago.. when a buddy of mine and I started making molds.. He did some of these.. He can chime in a claim it if he wants.... some of his old castings still show up on ebay.. It is painted in the popular grey black color scheme.. like the playmates.. It had real bad flash and appeared to have been cast from a mold that was about shot.. I had some spare time at work.. so actually kepts sanding and puttying .. just trying to turn it into a bakground phaser.. thats all just make it look like a phaser.. the tenturn was damaged.. so I cut it off and replaced it with a resin graflex knob.. I think for a back ground prop it looks ok.. l... emmitter is hollow..metal trigger and p1 release..metal site window cover..


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  36. Zaphod

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    I've got a 23rd Century kit. Was slowly getting replacement metal parts for it, and my email provider at the time*poof* disappeared. I didn't have the guys email addy saved anywhere else, so I still need more parts...
     
  37. Zaphod

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    Tough question: Which is the best color scheme to follow?
     
  38. USSCassiopeia

    USSCassiopeia Active Member

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    You might want to try Captain JTK over there too - he does nozzles, and with good prices as well.



     
  39. USSCassiopeia

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    Zaphod, (cool name, BTW.)

    Try and find a can of Krylon Shadow Gray. It's OOP now, so you'll have to do some hunting.

    I went with Hot Rod Gray primer for my P1, and after buffing and clearcoating it looks very close to what Rich Coyle uses.

    The P2 handle needs Rustoleum Dark Bronze Metallic, but the good news is that you can find it at Wal-Mart...

    Dave

     
  40. USSCassiopeia

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    Dude, the more I look at your 23C, the more I like it. I've got news for you, buddy - it looks much better than a background phaser. :)
     
  41. stingray

    stingray Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    USSCassiopeia did the upgrade for me. He really did a fantastic job on the upgrade.
     
  42. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    OK this is rare and special but you're a good bunch of guys so I guess I can share with you. :D

    This is a casting off of a screenused "dummy" prop (also called "midgrade")... this is the phaser used most often, during the second and third seasons. Chances are if Shatner has a pistol phaser in his hand, it'll be this one.

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    Pix were taken during a repaint, and the top p1 details aren't installed yet, so that's why it looks a little incomplete.

    Here's a comparison with a publicity photo of Nimoy holding the actual prop.

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    And some screen grabs.

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    - k
     
  43. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Cool...

    Thanks for sharing.


    FB
     
  44. Zaphod

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    Thank you, and thank you again Dave.
     
  45. uscm buzz

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    Thanks the phaser was totally done with whatever parts I could scrape up.. without spending money on.. I figured like if you were on deadline and had to make this phaser work for background shots.. it did use aluminum stock for he trigger and p1 release from home depot..the site cover metal piece.. is from a fuse package.. ground down on a drinder.. then the yellow paint buffed off with a wire wheel grinder.. I didnt cut a window.. cuz the window area was damaged.. so I filled it.. intending to put a fake windo like electical tape rectangle or maks it off and paint it..
    The nozzle and emmitter were 1 piece.. so I cut off the emmitter and drilled out the hole for a clear emmitter.. I went to the $1`store and bought a pack of clear pens.. and cut the end off the pen.. to use it has the hole in it.. and looks like the shorter nozzle from the Surviviing Hero..sanded it a little to fog it.. just cuz I like the look.. I was determined to salvage the phaser.. even after several of my friends told me throw it away.. This was a project of love.. and I love phasers.. this phaser sits by my computer.. and I am on dial up. and while waiting.. or I mess with it.. on a daily basis.. hey.. its my house.. If I wanna play with my phasers I can..
    I dindnt have the clear part for the p1 so I painted it like the playmates just to see what happened.. hmm looks good onscreen.. the side knob is too low. but I didnt have another so I left it.. the handle has a hole drilled into it with a wood screw holding it in place from the inside of the p2.. The Side Rails were crooked.. so I sanded them off correcting the problem.. the crispy was molded into the p1.. so I masked it off and painted it instead of adding crispy as I didnt have any.. The rear fins are cast resin.. and I cut the forward area at a 45 angle to simulate the correct fins.. as the 23rd is straight .. The side rails are about half inch too far back and dont go to the front edge.. so to make the back ends end where they should they were modified.. But all in all.. It looks like a phaser.. I didnt know the turtle wax trick.. so when I clear coted it in Krylon Satin Clear.. it dulled all the Aluminum paint..
    It is painted Krylone Grey Primer.. and Krlon Flat Black.. The Silver is Walmart Aluminum..
     
  46. Serafino

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    PP very cool.

    I can believe the casting is the same as most of the later screen caps, but the two phasers in the side by side comparison shot do not look the same. The side planes do not curve in to meet the front face the same way, and the grip on the casting is shorter.

    Also, in the small inset screen cap in the 2nd pic from the bottom, the grip is longer than on the casting.

    FWIW :)
     
  47. stingray

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    Here are some pics of my Coyle Phaser:
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    This is the Phaser that USSCassiopeia mentioned earlier. The paint USSCassiopeia used on my AA upgrade is very simillar in appearance to what Rich used on this Phaser.
     
  48. aniskywalker

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    You people are killing me here. ;)

    Just love, Phasers. :love

    My favorite weapon, along with the lightsaber. :love

    More, more, more ..... :D
     
  49. micdavis

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    Here is the rarest of rare fan made phasers.

    These phasers were made by Bruce Wegman and Dave Heilman in the early 80's.

    Only about 20 were made and are remarkable for the time period made.

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  50. WinstonWolf359

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    Wow, that's awesome. I've never seen a Wegman phaser before. Very cool, and I agree pretty accurate for the time period. I especially like the off-white grip. :)

    Do you know if they did the more traditional gray versions too?
     

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