New Tomenosuke Blaster Pro "Retail" version

It's difficult to tell, but that looks like a rubber stunt blaster to me. Maybe with the red LEDs added in post-production.
 
I would think the hero prop is built for close ups like that. That shouldn't be a rubber prop.
I would guess that the prop must have been altered some time before worcon. I'm guessing the receiver bluing might have been stripped - either to redress it as a gun for a different movie which never happened or the owner might have planned to have the metal prepped for rebluing.
 
Silicon gun wipes help to add a little more shine.
It's possible the hero had "make up" on too at times, could have been wiped down with such a product. I have always wiped
my guns down after cleaning.

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Good point. I'll wipe mine down when I get home.
It'll be an improvement, at least.
but the screen gun still doesn't look that "rough."
 
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Good point. I'll wipe mine down when I get home.
It'll be an improvement, at least.
but the screen gun still doesn't look that "rough."

Maybe it is possible to polish it with a product like Novus. The film is so dark if screen appearance is the goal, it's not worth sweating over too much.
I'v ebeen trying to find a good picture of a cared for Steyr of that era to nail it. Not sure when the below was manufactured. Pictures I've seen of recent Steyr rifles they look matte so that does no good.
Note the bolt is a little different from the reciever on this one.

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Wonder if parts are interchangeable between kit and flat black one? I too have a kit that needs finishing with the prebuilt on the way.
 
Damn...wish I had one of the other kits too!!?? I've built ton of Coyles but no Tome's yet!?! The older kits look great!
Hopefully, this new one is as good if not better!?
 
I would think the hero prop is built for close ups like that. That shouldn't be a rubber prop.
I would guess that the prop must have been altered some time before worcon. I'm guessing the receiver bluing might have been stripped - either to redress it as a gun for a different movie which never happened or the owner might have planned to have the metal prepped for rebluing.

Richard has documented some pretty convincing evidence the receiver was in the film as it appears today.
 
Whatever condtion it was in in the movie or at Worldcon, it did not look that effed up as it did at Worldcon on screen to me, again dark movie though.
I really don't want a replica that looks that uncared for. I get useage wear, but Worldcon condition looks like total lack of care, I've owned firearms a long time and even my heavily used weapons I've owned since the eighties do not come close to that. I took care of them.
A weapon your life depends on would not get that neglected by a professional killer, but this come down to what kind of collector you are or
what your looking for in your prop replica, which will vary as much as there are collectors.
 
Richard has documented some pretty convincing evidence the receiver was in the film as it appears today.
Are Rich's notes on Propsummit? I don't recall if I actually read them.

Consider this screencap:

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The screen cap definitely looks blued. In low light a narrow reflection betrays a dark shiny finish. A matte reflection would be more diffuse with lesser contrast. The photo shows some diffusion so there's an argument for a satin (semi-gloss) black.

With a polished but "non-blued" surface you want to look at reflections of ambient light (as opposed to point-source) where you can see the true color. You'd find this over the top of the receiver in the reference photo. In that case the top of the receiver would be lighter in color. In this case it's black.

The tough part is appreciating the degree of actual ambient light which is difficult to appreciate without knowing more about how it was filmed. It's filmed to look like a black gun, at least. So that's the look I'm going for.

I can say that with more certainty since I now have the Final Cut Blu-Ray to reference instead of my old VHS or DVD copies.
 
Are Rich's notes on Propsummit? I don't recall if I actually read them.

Consider this screencap:

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The screen cap definitely looks blued. In low light a narrow reflection betrays a dark shiny finish. A matte reflection would be more diffuse with lesser contrast. The photo shows some diffusion so there's an argument for a satin (semi-gloss) black.

With a polished but "non-blued" surface you want to look at reflections of ambient light (as opposed to point-source) where you can see the true color. You'd find this over the top of the receiver in the reference photo. In that case the top of the receiver would be lighter in color. In this case it's black.

The tough part is appreciating the degree of actual ambient light which is difficult to appreciate without knowing more about how it was filmed. It's filmed to look like a black gun, at least. So that's the look I'm going for.

I can say that with more certainty since I now have the Final Cut Blu-Ray to reference instead of my old VHS or DVD copies.

I think it's here on the RPF from maybe last year. I'll ask Rich and circle back.
 
Regarding that screencap, I think he showed that if you really crank the contrast, the true look comes through. And there are many on set pictures showing the stripped version of the receiver pretty clearly.
 
I believe these are photos of the blaster the day it was delivered to the Profiles in History auction!? I got them from Rich's photobucket page!
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Not the best pictures but in comparison to the new Tomenosuke its pretty close ...?
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I believe that Tomenosuke was at the release of this item at the auction in question so perhaps they used the look here for the new release model?! They look pretty close to me?!
 
Regarding that screencap, I think he showed that if you really crank the contrast, the true look comes through. And there are many on set pictures showing the stripped version of the receiver pretty clearly.
That is certainly possible.
If that's the case then it's clear that the reason the contrast was cranked was to make the gun look a certain way.

So the central question is: Do you want the gun depicted on film or do you want to replicate (pun intended) the prop? These are two different questions. I want the gun that was represented on film.
 
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