New Doctor Who Series Discussion *Spoilers*

Dunno if you guys got to see the preview after the show for the Doctor Who Interactive games the BBC are launching for download?

They are classing these games as interactive episodes, which will extend on plots from the series. I found some good images last week, but can't remember where. Most interesting were a couple of the Cybermen - no longer with Cybus Industries logos, and one on what appears to be an ice planet...

Link to the story and cropped image of the ice planet Cyber here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8607925.stm

Better link:

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/0...eractive-episodes-revealed/doctor-who-game-2/
 
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Why is everybody so butthurt about the C logo on the new Cybermen? Is it really that big a deal? Logo or not they look a million times better than the old series Cybermen.
 
Why is everybody so butthurt about the C logo on the new Cybermen? Is it really that big a deal? Logo or not they look a million times better than the old series Cybermen.

Because the original Cybermen weren't built by Cybus on alternate Earth, but aliens from the ice planet Mondus, kinda like in that pic I linked to? A heck of a lot of Who fans would like to see the Cybermen return to their original origin story...that pic could potentially be a BIG spoiler...
 
It's not the logo, I don't think... It's the significance of it.
In that they're not "real" Cybermen.
They're an alternative-universe echo of what the Cybermen are and should be, similar in appearance but that's about it.

I'm pretty sure the proper Cybermen will be back soon, though.
Hopefully we'll see them first in the show, and not photoshopped to hell on the cover of the Radio Times! ( That's gonna bug me and bug me! The first pics I saw of the new Daleks looked far better than those covers - Still the same colours but more muted, and it looks like the show itself ended up with them kinda halfway between the two options. )
 
Because the original Cybermen weren't built by Cybus on alternate Earth, but aliens from the ice planet Mondus, Kinda like in that pic I linked to? A heck of a lot of Who fans would like to the Cybermen return to their original origin story...

I guess as a newcomer to Who (New Series), my only exposure to the Cybermen has been the Cybus Industries variant. I like that picture you linked to, Birdie - the logo on the chest reminds me of the headshape of the Cybershades from the victorian-era Christmas special.

When I build my Cyberman this summer (and by god, I intend to!) I will try to make the chest like that ice picture you posted.. the Cybus logo I can make separately and perhaps mount it somehow, to get the two "flavors."

I would absolutely love love love to see any of those other pictures you alluded to. If you have a chance to retrace your steps, I'd really like to see them for my build.
 
Eeeeeee. Thank you, that last picture (8/8) just *rocks* my world. June can't come fast enough, I wonder if the 3D models will be able to be extracted from the game. :D

A thought.. since it's speculative in nature, I figured I'd put spoiler tags on it, but I know you all will click anyways.. ;)
Perhaps a damaged Cybus Cyberman is discovered by someone/something who then takes it back to Mondus, where they go to work generating new bodies for them to inhabit, stripping the Cybus logo. Maybe they outsource the bodies to China or something. :lol And I find it really interesting that the shape of the Cybershades' head is used, but I am at a loss as to what it could mean.
 
So let me guess, these games will be on the BBC website and only available to people in the UK?
 
So let me guess, these games will be on the BBC website and only available to people in the UK?
Since it says there will be mac/PC versions, it looks like it'll be a download. The US will get their hands on it one way or another.
 
One note about the classic Daleks...did anyone else notice that sound, the sound they always used to use around the classic series daleks in the 60's in the Dalek cities and ships, that odd oscillating sound...God it was so good to hear that again. The only thing about the new Daleks that will be a deal breaker for me will be if they don't use them to their fullest potential. If the Doctor CAN'T always beat them, that they actually win more often then not then I'll be quie happy to see the Daleks painted like Skittles XD.

They've used that 'heartbeat' sound since the Eccleston episodes every time someone is aboard a Dalek ship. It's not like they just started using it again.

The episode really wasn't that great. Oh, it's nice to have the Daleks back, but why the **** did they have to make them such an ugly design and the stupid Skittles colors? It's one thing to have a Dalek commander be different, but the full group of techno color Daleks was lame. The Dalek bomb being 'deactivated' by human emotion was such ****ing garbage. That the Daleks would build a bomb that could be deactivated because it gets a raging hardon is unbelievable.

And Smith really isn't pulling it together.

Really garbage writing. Also, I'm already sick of seeing that stupid crack in every episode.
 
Sadly I have to agree with you. I think the high point of the show is long past at this point.
 
I have to say i'm not a big fan of the new look Daleks either.
If they were from the original DNA of the Daleks why didn't they come out looking like the classic pre RTD Daleks?

But, the one thing (other than his odd/clueless to me looks) that stands out to me is his use of a handgun, which I have (in short viewing history for the record) never seen a Doctor do; after all, a Time Lord can control all things chronological, physical, and metaphysical, so why would one such as him require use of a mechanical device that causes physical damage?


Pertwee used a gun on one occassion, as did Tom Baker in Weng Chiang and invasion of time, Peter Davison tried a couple of times but wimped out ( Earthshock,resurrection of the daleks ), Colin Baker killed a load of Cybermen in Attack, plus Ecclestone was going to use one.
Although not on screen, i'm sure McGanns Doctor used them during the time war ( he fought on the front line ). Plus there's the many times he's blown up, poisoned ( warriors of the deep ) etc the villain of the story.

He may not like using a gun but he's got no problem getting blood on his hands.
 
They've used that 'heartbeat' sound since the Eccleston episodes every time someone is aboard a Dalek ship. It's not like they just started using it again.

The episode really wasn't that great. Oh, it's nice to have the Daleks back, but why the **** did they have to make them such an ugly design and the stupid Skittles colors? It's one thing to have a Dalek commander be different, but the full group of techno color Daleks was lame. The Dalek bomb being 'deactivated' by human emotion was such ****ing garbage. That the Daleks would build a bomb that could be deactivated because it gets a raging hardon is unbelievable.

And Smith really isn't pulling it together.

Really garbage writing. Also, I'm already sick of seeing that stupid crack in every episode.

They barely used it in the Parting of the Ways, just at first and then it quit and I never heard it all the way up to series 4 when Davros returned and if they did it was mixed down and drowned out by the music, at least I could HEAR it all the way through this episode so regardless if they used it in the new series they BARELY used it in the new series so yeah, yeah it was nice to hear that sound again. Problem with that?

The bomb gripe though is pretty legit though. I don't understand how making him feel strong emotions kept him from exploding...would like to have had an explanation for that.

Ok, why did the solder Daleks have canteens???? :lol:lol:lol


If the iron sides are on the battlefield with humans then the humans would be able to go to an iron side for supplies. Food, water, medical supplies...
 
I think they were laying on the idea that the Daleks made him too human. Emotion is the antithesis of Dalek ideology. When the lone Dalek in series one was infected by Rose's emotions it basically comitted suicide. In this case it caused Dalek technology to malfunction. It would have been way more effective, imho, if the whole robot shut down.

That would have had more emotional resonance than just letting him go with a planet-buster inside him. Have to agree with what others have said - weak writing.
 
I think they were laying on the idea that the Daleks made him too human. Emotion is the antithesis of Dalek ideology. When the lone Dalek in series one was infected by Rose's emotions it basically comitted suicide. In this case it caused Dalek technology to malfunction. It would have been way more effective, imho, if the whole robot shut down.

That would have had more emotional resonance than just letting him go with a planet-buster inside him. Have to agree with what others have said - weak writing.


Interesting theory about the emotions and Dalek tech I just wish the Doctor made that comment in the end. I DO wonder though...

that conspiracy theory about season five where they point out the advanced tech and the 1990 badge, if that scientist guy with the Dalek tech may be partly responsible for the advancement of human technology and may be partly responsible for the cracks?
 
to me the ending was that his realization of his human will, allowed him to combat the programing and deactivate the bomb. He overpowered his internal programing
 
to me the ending was that his realization of his human will, allowed him to combat the programing and deactivate the bomb. He overpowered his internal programing

I'm with protokev on this one. It was an example of the question "what does it mean to be a human?" Is it blood, skin and bone? Or is it thought and emotion?
 
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