New Doctor Who Series Discussion *Spoilers*

I'm with protokev on this one. It was an example of the question "what does it mean to be a human?" Is it blood, skin and bone? Or is it thought and emotion?

No, that's good, but if the Doctor had said "What was it like? Feel that emotion, embrace it. Use it to take control and prove that you are still human and keep them from exploding you!" or something like that, then yeah, no problem but I think we're being asked to take for granted things that are unsaid and typically that doesn't work very well and leaves many of the audience scratching their heads that don't try to rationalize things like this.
 
Pertwee used a gun on one occassion, as did Tom Baker in Weng Chiang and invasion of time, Peter Davison tried a couple of times but wimped out ( Earthshock,resurrection of the daleks ), Colin Baker killed a load of Cybermen in Attack, plus Ecclestone was going to use one.
Although not on screen, i'm sure McGanns Doctor used them during the time war ( he fought on the front line ). Plus there's the many times he's blown up, poisoned ( warriors of the deep ) etc the villain of the story.

He may not like using a gun but he's got no problem getting blood on his hands.

Like I said before..
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Jon Shot First!!
 
^^^ Nice one.


Regarding the Bracewell bomb, i was expecting the Doctor to pick him up and drop him on the Dalek ship before it flew off. I can't believe he never thought of it.

It would have saved the Earth and got rid of the Daleks in one go.
 
^^^ Nice one.


Regarding the Bracewell bomb, i was expecting the Doctor to pick him up and drop him on the Dalek ship before it flew off. I can't believe he never thought of it.

It would have saved the Earth and got rid of the Daleks in one go.


Its a little bit harsh towards Bracewell though isnt it :/
 
Amy Pond just realised the robot guy's off switch was in his penis. She had to get him thinking about the chick he wanted to bag so the disarm switch would 'go off'.
 
Amy Pond just realised the robot guy's off switch was in his penis. She had to get him thinking about the chick he wanted to bag so the disarm switch would 'go off'.

She should have put the copper outfit on again, bent over and wiggled. That would have solved the problem pronto....:love(yes, still fantasising!:love)

Rich
 
Regarding the Bracewell bomb, i was expecting the Doctor to pick him up and drop him on the Dalek ship before it flew off. I can't believe he never thought of it.

It would have saved the Earth and got rid of the Daleks in one go.

Me toooo! I was anticipating a mad dash for the Tardis! And remember, Bracewell was just a robot with a transplanted memory at that point. No huge loss.

Jannix Quinn said:
Amy Pond just realised the robot guy's off switch was in his penis. She had to get him thinking about the chick he wanted to bag so the disarm switch would 'go off'

I was expecting her to lean down and deliver a kiss-o-gram. Seriously.
 
I saw the season premier the other day. I really don't care for Matt Smith at all. To me it seems like he's trying to act like Doctor who whereas David Tennant was Doctor Who.

Amy Pond saved the show. I hope his acting gets better. No comment on the writing since it's only the first episode.

FB
 
Its a little bit harsh towards Bracewell though isnt it :/


Not really, he was an android that was in danger of exploding and destroying the earth.

Instead of doing the smart thing and taking him to the Dalek ship so it would destroy them ( which the Doctor wanted to do ), he wastes time trying to diffuse it by talking about emotions that were implanted.
 
Yes he was a bomb, but to The Doctor, feeling those emotions made Bracewell human. He couldn't just explode the guy, even if it would have stopped he Daleks, that's not how the Doctor is.
 
It's so weird to think that something related to Davies era Who survived. Unfortunately, that show suffers the same problem as Moffat Who: Made for 5 year olds.
 
No, that's good, but if the Doctor had said "What was it like? Feel that emotion, embrace it. Use it to take control and prove that you are still human and keep them from exploding you!" or something like that, then yeah, no problem but I think we're being asked to take for granted things that are unsaid and typically that doesn't work very well and leaves many of the audience scratching their heads that don't try to rationalize things like this.

How does a FEELING shut off the fuse of a bomb? It's totally meaningless that the robot could just choose to not blow up. It'd be one thing to have the robot realise he didn't want to harm anyone and somehow transport himself to the Dalek ship before detonation to blow them up instead, but it was painfully and ridiculously sentimental claptrap to have his feelings just disarm the bomb in his chest.

Crap writing is not excusable.
 
Unfortunately, that show suffers the same problem as Moffat Who: Made for 5 year olds.

Lets us not forget the man-eating wheelie bin from 'Rose' and the farting baby-faced atrocities of Aliens of London/World War Three.

Getting going as a helmer was never going to be an easy job for Moffat, I think we need to cut him some slack before writing him off. What actually worries me more than the episodes is his 'let's throw so-and-so' into the episode, just 'cos it looks cool' attitude that he has displayed in the last last couple of episodes of Confidential.

Moffat wrote some of the best episodes for RTD, let's hope being promoted hasn't gone to his head.
 
I'll keep watching the show, it'll take more than 3 bad episodes in a row to make me stop, but it does suck that I don't enjoy it as much any more.
 
I was expecting her to lean down and deliver a kiss-o-gram. Seriously.

Ditto. It read as if they they totally set it up for that, then bottled out at the last second.

Crap writing is not excusable.

Never agreed with you more. Never a fan of Gatiss particularly. The kindest thing I can say about this episode is that it is pure kiddy stuff.

I just thought the inside of the Dalek ship looked a little sparse and pathetic. Nothing too much "spaceship" about it. Of course it could have been inside a brewery.
-Gary

It was a basement. The ceiling wasn't dressed, it was just a concrete ceiling with service piping. Poor effort. :thumbsdown

The Spitfires in space could have been a glorious moment but was undermined by being the most perfunctory deus ex machina in Doctor Who history, which is saying a lot. :p Seriously, two lines of dialogue and thirty seconds? Never mind the "gravity bubble" crap, you've then got propulsion, pressurisation/lifesupport, manouvre and fuel range issues. All they had to do was establish that they'd *already* been working on the things, without the Dalek's knowledge. Just that would at least have taken some of the curse off it.
 
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Oh, also - the many swooping car-advertisment-style shots of the new Dalek lineup were just absolutely embarrassing!
 
So I was rewatching The Beast Below and noticed Amy was 1306 yrs old in the 29th century. Meaning she was born in 1544 (if we're saying the events of The Beast Below occurred in 2850, exact date is never given, might as well be 2850).

However, if she was 22 yrs old in 1990, the events of The Beast Below happen in Year 3274 or the 33rd century.

...I think my math is correct.
 
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