Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman costume

[TheNickFox]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

If I could sew stretch fabrics, I'd make the video myself, but my seamstress is very private. So I have to respect that.

I'm all about sharing information, (Hell, most of the current pattern makers started by tracing my pattern because I encouraged it) but she's not part of the costuming community, so don't take this out on her.

The other thing is that these patterns are extremely complex...they are really best sewn by a professional. Doesn't mean people shouldn't attempt it, just that your results may vary.

-Nick

 

[CaptainMarvel]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

. . . but she's not part of the costuming community, so don't take this out on her . . .

Was trying to speak in generalities . . . I apologize if any offense was taken

 

[Crimzon]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

Yeah i would love to share . If it was me behind the sewing machine but my wife thinks best way to learn is experimenting youself as she one day plans on sewing. Dye subs for commission so i wish i could

 

[SpideyMan]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

I called my seamstress today and she's going to try to take as many pics as she can of the whole process, from cutting to fitting and so on. I work to much to make a video but that was a good idea.

 

[anigswes]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

As a seamstress I am willing to share some info- I have lots of sewing experience and I am finding the dye sub suit assembly tricky!

I am not opposed to posting a video- once I have it figured out. I have another suit to put together in the coming weeks and I anticipate that one to be much easier. I'll see what I can do with a video.

I understand wanting to keep trade secrets, but there are so many of these suits out there. Also, I feel if beginner sewers have a chance to see the complexity in these suits they will be able to make a better formed decision whether they want to attempt to put it together or pass it to someone more seasoned. That would be my hope.
Until then I would love as much info as possible.

I think I will make a short video of sewing with stretch fabrics in general because I know many people find it intimidating in the beginning, but it is a great skill once you get the hang of it!

 

[carl9149]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

Maybe we could all do with a new sewing pattern to create costumes which may be a little easier for sewing.
anigswes your a seamstress do you have any patterns which could be used for a full body costume within photoshop?
I think that less is not always the best when it comes to these sewing patterns and that making less pieces may not be the way to go, but something in between may be of help. What do we all think?

 

[CaptainMarvel]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

I am not opposed to posting a video- once I have it figured out. I have another suit to put together in the coming weeks and I anticipate that one to be much easier. I'll see what I can do with a video.

This would be AWESOME !!!!

I understand wanting to keep trade secrets, but there are so many of these suits out there. Also, I feel if beginner sewers have a chance to see the complexity in these suits they will be able to make a better formed decision whether they want to attempt to put it together or pass it to someone more seasoned. That would be my hope.
Until then I would love as much info as possible.

Couldn't agree more . . .

It;s the "people helping people" vibe I see here that I consider one of the strongest positives of the RPF Community !!!

I think I will make a short video of sewing with stretch fabrics in general because I know many people find it intimidating in the beginning, but it is a great skill once you get the hang of it!

Yet ANOTHER fantastic idea !!!

You should definitely consider creating your own YouTube Channel that myself and others can subscribe to - for easy reference when we need to view it again, and again, and again.

 

[TheNickFox]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

Maybe we could all do with a new sewing pattern to create costumes which may be a little easier for sewing.
anigswes your a seamstress do you have any patterns which could be used for a full body costume within photoshop?
I think that less is not always the best when it comes to these sewing patterns and that making less pieces may not be the way to go, but something in between may be of help. What do we all think?

There are TONS of different ways to make a body suit pattern, depending on where you want to hide your seams. The reason why most people use the Raimi pattern is because we already know how the muscles are supposed to lay over the different sections of fabric.

To make a new pattern requires a level of work no one has yet put into one of these patterns to ensure that the new muscle map lays cleanly over the areas you need it to.

-Nick

 

[CaptainMarvel]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

There are TONS of different ways to make a body suit pattern, depending on where you want to hide your seams.

I assume that the material one can utilize for the suits is numerous as well?

I mean, if one found a really cool raised pattern material - say similar to the Amazing SpiderMan
or Superman Returns or Man of Steel raised patterns we've seen - this can be accomplished as well?



DISCLAIMER:
I am a complete newb to all this - so please forgive/bear with my naivite'.

:confused

 

[TheNickFox]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

I assume that the material one can utilize for the suits is numerous as well?

I mean, if one found a really cool raised pattern material - say similar to the Amazing SpiderMan
or Superman Returns or Man of Steel raised patterns we've seen - this can be accomplished as well?



DISCLAIMER:
I am a complete newb to all this - so please forgive/bear with my naivite'.

:confused

Almost all of the costumes are made from cotton or poly lycra. The patterns printed on top can be accomplished through various means. The most common is dye sublimation.

However outfits like the Tron: Legacy or Superman Returns suits use screen printing, with fairly basic poly inks.

...I have it on good authority that the best way to replicate a raised pattern, like the one on the new Spidey suit or the Man of Steel suits is also through screen printing...but it's all about the inks you choose.

You're not going to find any of those textures in a ready to buy bolt of fabric.

Other base materials can be utilized, but generally they need some sort of stretch element (Usually in the form of lycra being blended into the fabric) in order to look right.

PVC/PolyUrethane fabric can be used as well...and is the current top choice of people making the new Cat Woman costume.

-Nick

 

[CaptainMarvel]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

PVC/PolyUrethane fabric can be used as well...and is the current top choice of people making the new Cat Woman costume.

-Nick

Good info to know - THANKS NICK !!!

 

[joelai009]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

I have this sewing machine. Do you think it will work Nick? I am trying to sew it mine myself like Peter Parker. I don't have a serger. I hope this one works.:lol

 

[SpideyMan]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

Bumpppppppp

 

[pat0003]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

I hear what you're saying . . . pity that some people are so tight with things like this.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

In fact, you wouldn't even have to show her face - only her hands working the sewing machine while you provide the narration. Or, it can be silent and you can put up subtitle captions describing what is going on, witch some superhero costume appropriate background music.

Yah, I know ... she still likely won't let it happen.



Whatever happened to helping your fellow man - sheesh.
:confused

It's called job security. I don't mind pointing the way, but giving my skills away that I worked hard to learn isn't on the table. Would one of the designers on the forum who designs the suits just give away their work? They spent a lot of time learning to do what they can do. Most of them are charging for their work. Why should a seamstress be any different. Just saying a little respect for her abilities should be given.

 

[pat0003]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

I have this sewing machine. Do you think it will work Nick? I am trying to sew it mine myself like Peter Parker. I don't have a serger. I hope this one works.:lol

Not Nick, but yes it should work. You need to use a zig-zag set at #2 stitch width and a stitch length at about 15-18 stitches per inch. Try not to stretch the fabric very much as you stitch. It may look a little ripply when you are finished but when you put the suit on they will disappear.

Hope this helps!

 

[joelai009]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

Not Nick, but yes it should work. You need to use a zig-zag set at #2 stitch width and a stitch length at about 15-18 stitches per inch. Try not to stretch the fabric very much as you stitch. It may look a little ripply when you are finished but when you put the suit on they will disappear.

Hope this helps!

What a relief. I just bought this mashine.Phew. Thanks for the info man. It is very nice of you. By the way, what kind of thread should I use?

 

[CaptainMarvel]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

It's called job security. I don't mind pointing the way, but giving my skills away that I worked hard to learn isn't on the table. Would one of the designers on the forum who designs the suits just give away their work? They spent a lot of time learning to do what they can do. Most of them are charging for their work. Why should a seamstress be any different. Just saying a little respect for her abilities should be given.

With all due respect .... one of the strongest virtues of this - and many - social communities is the sense of people helping people. Look at all of the tutorials, resources, step-by-step-process photos and explanations, questions answered, advice provided, etc. Heck, YouTube is LOADED with literally thousands of "how to" and "do-it-yourself" video tutorials - many from long time professionals who do not consider the sharing/passing on of knowledge to others as "giving it all away."


Consider this also . . . at some point, someone answered an aspiring seamstress' questions and provided her with knowledge, advice and instruction as to how to perform various sewing techniques and tasks - would you not agree?



Therefore, I do not feel that any level of disrespect - to anyone - has been either communicated or in any way intended here. The fact of the matter is that many (if not most) people come to the RPF Community to see and LEARN how to create amazing costumes, props, techniques, etc. As such, I do not feel that the initial inquiry and/or follow-up thoughts/opinions were out of line.

Fortunately, there are a great many here who are more than willing to share their experiences, processes and how-to knowledge with their fellow RPF Members. Nevertheless ... ultimately, the decision to share information and/or impart knowledge to others belongs to the individual possessing the knowledge - agreed.

 

[pat0003]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

Best thread to use is 100% polyester sewing thread. It has some natural stretch. Although, a cotton covered polyester sewing thread will work just fine! Be sure to use a ballpoint needle sometime call a stretch needle in the machine.

 

[pat0003]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

With all due respect .... one of the strongest virtues of this - and many - social communities is the sense of people helping people. Look at all of the tutorials, resources, step-by-step-process photos and explanations, questions answered, advice provided, etc. Heck, YouTube is LOADED with literally thousands of "how to" and "do-it-yourself" video tutorials - many from long time professionals who do not consider the sharing/passing on of knowledge to others as "giving it all away."


Consider this also . . . at some point, someone answered an aspiring seamstress' questions and provided her with knowledge, advice and instruction as to how to perform various sewing techniques and tasks - would you not agree?



Therefore, I do not feel that any level of disrespect - to anyone - has been either communicated or in any way intended here. The fact of the matter is that many (if not most) people come to the RPF Community to see and LEARN how to create amazing costumes, props, techniques, etc. As such, I do not feel that the initial inquiry and/or follow-up thoughts/opinions were out of line.

Fortunately, there are a great many here who are more than willing to share their experiences, processes and how-to knowledge with their fellow RPF Members. Nevertheless ... ultimately, the decision to share information and/or impart knowledge to others belongs to the individual possessing the knowledge - agreed.

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[pat0003]

Re: Need Reference photos and any basic info regarding sewing a dye sub Spiderman cos

With all due respect .... one of the strongest virtues of this - and many - social communities is the sense of people helping people. Look at all of the tutorials, resources, step-by-step-process photos and explanations, questions answered, advice provided, etc. Heck, YouTube is LOADED with literally thousands of "how to" and "do-it-yourself" video tutorials - many from long time professionals who do not consider the sharing/passing on of knowledge to others as "giving it all away."


Consider this also . . . at some point, someone answered an aspiring seamstress' questions and provided her with knowledge, advice and instruction as to how to perform various sewing techniques and tasks - would you not agree?



Therefore, I do not feel that any level of disrespect - to anyone - has been either communicated or in any way intended here. The fact of the matter is that many (if not most) people come to the RPF Community to see and LEARN how to create amazing costumes, props, techniques, etc. As such, I do not feel that the initial inquiry and/or follow-up thoughts/opinions were out of line.

Fortunately, there are a great many here who are more than willing to share their experiences, processes and how-to knowledge with their fellow RPF Members. Nevertheless ... ultimately, the decision to share information and/or impart knowledge to others belongs to the individual possessing the knowledge - agreed.

Dear Captain Marvel:

I'm relatively new to this forum and before this turns into a pissing match, I do agree with you and that sharing knowledge is essential. I have done a lot of teaching associated with my career and much of it unpaid.

If you look at my post, I am usually willing to help people who need it. I'm only saying that if she doesn't want to share what she knows on a video, her wishes should be honored and she shouldn't be chastised for it. I'm guessing she doesn't want to be on camera on You tube or what ever medium this filming might appear. It's her decision. This may be how she makes her living.

YouTube is a wonderful source for information and I have used it many time. I honor those people what take the time to teach others via this method. It is a large commitment in time an effort to document any thing in a proper manner for YouTube viewing.

Being new here, I am constantly amazed by the work the forum member turn out, much of it to a very high standard.

So , If I may rephrase my last sentence of the original post : Just saying a little understanding for her decision should be given.

I was not suggesting you gave her any disrespect! If that is what you understood, I apologize.