I didn't even know it was coming already. i'll wait til the game is 8.99 used, not paying a lot for it again. i'll download the DLC to have it before they try and charge for it but I think it'll just ignite another crap storm. EA's already got a backlash over the changes they're making to Deadspace 3.
Mass Effect 3 Ending, opinions and feelings?
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I didn't even know it was coming already. i'll wait til the game is 8.99 used, not paying a lot for it again. i'll download the DLC to have it before they try and charge for it but I think it'll just ignite another crap storm. EA's already got a backlash over the changes they're making to Deadspace 3.
DuneMuadDib
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I'm curious if there's even enough fire in the players to raise hell again if the DLC doesn't satisfy them. I'm expecting little beyond justifying the character assassination. Maybe we'll get lucky and they're lying to us to downplay what's in store, but I don't have faith in BioWare to lie to us like that. They're almost admitting that they lied about being able to experience every ending by only playing single-player, but not quite.
Flecktarn92
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So far all DLC save the Prothean one has been free and this one on Tuesday is free until April 2014 for some reason.
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
It's free because they're trying to save face. If there'd been no outcry over the ending none of the DLC would be free. The CEO of EA literally wants to charge for bullets.
I think he's backed off that idea after being bashed by everyone but the EA bribed online reviewers.
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
Only because he can't get away with it. He'll have to settle for launch day DLC for now, since they don't seem to care about how much they're bashed for that scam.
It'll be interesting to see what they charge for the rumored Omega DLC. Wouldn't put it past them to charge extra for it to recoup losses from EC. Maybe if they'd just included that from the start…
I'll watch it on Youtube. I have no interest in playing ME3 again any time soon.
I think someone on another site summed it up best when they said that Bioware is basically saying "Here's out explanation for the ending you were too stupid to understand." rather than fix the nonsensical things that were in it.
I think someone on another site summed it up best when they said that Bioware is basically saying "Here's out explanation for the ending you were too stupid to understand." rather than fix the nonsensical things that were in it.
Best thing Visceral and Bioware can do is find a way to break away from EA and find another publisher or start their own. Square is no better these days than EA. Funny thing is DS3 is getting tore apart because MP is gone (thank god) and they put in an optional coop which is better. Everything apparently has to be multiplayer now. This keeps up i'll be playing PC RPGs and that's it.
I have no choice other than to eventually get a new copy of ME3 just for the fact that i need it to help finish my complete collections of games and systems but i have no doubt it'll be a dust collector. Even with this DLC bioware's lost so much reputation that it isn't funny.
But what good is closure when the story as is contradicts so much of what was previously established? Why would Shepard threaten dangerous people with a gun pointed at their faces for just disagreeing with her, but not have the option to completely disagree with the Catalyst's motivations? This is the being that has murdered countless trillions, and when Shepard is finally talking to it, one of the most defining game mechanics in Mass Effect, the dialogue wheel, isn't used for anything. This is the final part of the whole series and they chose to end it with walking into light and shooting at tubes instead of reasoning with the entity. I find that kind of dumb and completely out of style with the rest of the franchise.
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
Yup. They lost a relatively large number of players very quickly because of it, which I'm sure played no small part in the free month of play promotion they did. Which came during the loudest rage over the ME3 ending of course.
BioWare isn't doing too well between all the negative press over ME3 (leading to what would have been paid MP DLCs being free) and TOR doing below what they wanted. They apparently poured a lot of time and money into TOR betting on it to be a huge cash cow and it's just not working out for them.
I'll have to dig it up, but someone did the math on how much that free month of TOR cost BioWare and it was a surprising number. Add to that all the lost money from not charging for any of the MP DLC from ME3 as well as the delay to whatever paid SP DLC might be coming because they had to crank out EC so fast to save face. EA must be thinking BioWare may not have been the best investment right now.
Satxer
Sr Member
/\ And to think they shut down SWG to make way for their "cash cow". I guarantee that people would still be playing SWG and be happy it exists had they not shut it down. I do miss it on occasion.
I'm by no means disagreeing that the ending in general sucks. I wasn't overly thrilled with it leaving you question all sorts of things. Why the only difference is what color shockwave you get, why did I waste my time getting (insert aliens) to join me, if the ending is only gonna make them pointless? I am sure the horse has been turned into a pile of blood though. We will have to see.
I'm by no means disagreeing that the ending in general sucks. I wasn't overly thrilled with it leaving you question all sorts of things. Why the only difference is what color shockwave you get, why did I waste my time getting (insert aliens) to join me, if the ending is only gonna make them pointless? I am sure the horse has been turned into a pile of blood though. We will have to see.
I'm sure a lot will make the point that some of the important writers left the Mass Effect series, but I can't help but not feel bring this topic up.
Mass Effect 3 is a huge showcase in non-commitment to established story lines. Take for instance Haestrom's sun in Mass Effect 2. You're trying to recruit Tali when you discover the sun in this solar system is acting very unnaturally. Tali says that the sun was just fine a few hundreds years ago, and what it's doing to the planet should not be happening for several millions of years. Something is causing the sun to do something and they don't quite know what it is. Dark Energy is linked, but nothing definite.
When you look at the big picture, what's more dangerous? Repears wiping out advanced life every 50,000 years, or a galaxy with no stars? What could this mean? Is this part of a Reaper back up plan to wipe out a whole galaxy by devoiding all life with it's number one energy source? Is it something that the galaxy is doing to itself that we're all unaware of? One thing's for certain, the Quarians do their part in reminding you that it's still a big deal.
Mass Effect 3? NOT.... ONE.... MENTION.... of Haestrom's sun.
And let's not forget the multi-medium stories of secondary characters.... That was well planned.
Mass Effect 3 is a huge showcase in non-commitment to established story lines. Take for instance Haestrom's sun in Mass Effect 2. You're trying to recruit Tali when you discover the sun in this solar system is acting very unnaturally. Tali says that the sun was just fine a few hundreds years ago, and what it's doing to the planet should not be happening for several millions of years. Something is causing the sun to do something and they don't quite know what it is. Dark Energy is linked, but nothing definite.
When you look at the big picture, what's more dangerous? Repears wiping out advanced life every 50,000 years, or a galaxy with no stars? What could this mean? Is this part of a Reaper back up plan to wipe out a whole galaxy by devoiding all life with it's number one energy source? Is it something that the galaxy is doing to itself that we're all unaware of? One thing's for certain, the Quarians do their part in reminding you that it's still a big deal.
Mass Effect 3? NOT.... ONE.... MENTION.... of Haestrom's sun.
And let's not forget the multi-medium stories of secondary characters.... That was well planned.
booksandcorsets
Sr Member
From what I have heard of the Dark Energy plot, it would have tied everything together, from day 1.
It was all about the semi-magic of the Mass Effect, ie, the mysterious and ancient Mass Relays. It was even in the TITLE. As civilizations grew up and started using the relays, the dark energy buildup from their use started to swell. Because of that, there was a failsafe: at a certain point, the higher dark energy levels would set off the Reapers to attack and destroy the civilized societies. Otherwise, the suns would go out.
The final decision, I read, was for Shepard to destroy the Reapers, trusting the current cycle to figure out a way to stop the dark energy buildup in the galaxy... or sacrifice all of humanity to fix the problem once and for all.
The final decision, I read, was for Shepard to destroy the Reapers, trusting the current cycle to figure out a way to stop the dark energy buildup in the galaxy... or sacrifice all of humanity to fix the problem once and for all.
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