<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lonepigeon @ Mar 9 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]1435902[/snapback]</div>
I thought the shared stunt was used for ESB practice, not the V2. Huh.
The shared stunt has definitely been cleaned up over the years. The neck has been painted to match the "hero", that funky black ring was apparently painted on the emitter step (beneath the emitter flange), and the chrome/duct tape was added, for starters.
The stunt with the two screws in the control box looks pretty weathered around the copper neck area. A good shot of it can been seen when Luke deflects the barge's laserblast while entangled in Fett's cable.
I also think that the shared stunt was used for much of the final duel. Also, Luke appears to toss away either the V2 or the (more likely) shared stunt (or stunt/Vader "hero") at the end of the duel (I think it has a Graflex clamp lever; I'll have to double-check).
And, regarding the Elstree "reveal" saber, here's a repost of my thoughts on the prop from the existing thread on it.
While this Elstree saber certainly is a cool item, I don't necessarily think this is a real prop made for the film back in 1982.
Consider this:
Various sources have said that the scene the prop was to appear in was never even filmed.
Further, there appears to a a *green crystal* inside the prop, beneath the control box. There are two things wrong with this:
1. The whole notion of lightsabers containing colored crystals surely did not exist in 1982, when this prop would have been built (unless the crystal was added to the prop years--maybe even decades--later).
2. At the time this prop would have been built, everyone thought that Luke's new saber would have a blue blade. Even early trailers for Jedi show the saber with a blue blade. It wasn't changed to green until long after filming was done. So why would this "authentic" prop have a green crystal (or any crystals to begin with)?
Also, Elstree claims to have made six sabers for the film, and these new revelations do tie in with that. Of course, if they're wrong about the "reveal" saber, they may be wrong about that, too.
The V2 is really unique among sabers. I'm rather conflicted about it. On the one hand, the "hero" is nice and pristine and looks like a newly-built saber (as the film's story indicates), but on the other hand, the V2 saw the most screen-time.
And, on the one hand, the stunt/Vader "hero" gets the best close-up in the film, so does that mean that the pristine/copper-necked "hero" version trumps the V2 as the "real" hero? Or does the V2's large amount of screen-time give it more weight in the argument?
Here's a list to make it a little easier.
V2 - left over ANH Kenobi stunt, slight mods to plug wire and button holes. ANH calc bubbles fell out replaced with circuit board like piece. Used during ESB practice. Seen the most in ROTJ.
Shared stunt - another left over ANH Kenobi stunt, modified post filming with bright copper paint.
Stunt - I believe new stunt sabers were made during filming (not before) so the ROTJ duel was likely done with old stunt sabers, possibly the shared stunt. New machined stunt sabers show up in Yuma. Solid aluminum control box attached with 2 screws.
Vader hands ROTJ Hero - For the insert shot of Vader holding saber. This is NOT the saber everyone replicates (SD, MR, etc). It appears to be a Stunt like mentioned above, but with details on the control box. Could be the same stunt mentioned above but modified or before parts came off (glued on to cover 2 screws).
Hero? - The ROTJ saber with LEDs and slide open control box with interior electronics (basis for SD and MR replicas, lots of castings of this original floating around). I have NO idea where this one was used. It's more detailed than the one in Vader's hands, but apparently is not in the movie. Maybe the saber used for the Luke constructing his lightsaber scene that was only partly shot.
Resin cast of "Hero?" - seen on exhibit many times. What was it used for? No idea.
R2 launching saber - flat top emitter, no nipple or hole. Sold in auction (last year?). IIRC multiples made.
Expanding saber - the supposed saber for the "Luke constructing his lightsaber" scene. Owned by Elstree. Apparently never delivered to set, probably never in LFL hands so not screen used and "made for production" status questionable.
That's a list off the top of my head. Might be missing some.
As for the V2 lever... I have no idea where it came from. They probably removed the one sidebar because the lever screwpost was too short. Lever is long, rounded rectangular in shape (similar to Graflex), end is bent. Pivot point is visible in Obi-Wan pic. I hope it's related to some other ANH prop part so we're able to figure out what the lever exactly looked like, but I haven't found anything yet.
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I thought the shared stunt was used for ESB practice, not the V2. Huh.
The shared stunt has definitely been cleaned up over the years. The neck has been painted to match the "hero", that funky black ring was apparently painted on the emitter step (beneath the emitter flange), and the chrome/duct tape was added, for starters.
The stunt with the two screws in the control box looks pretty weathered around the copper neck area. A good shot of it can been seen when Luke deflects the barge's laserblast while entangled in Fett's cable.
I also think that the shared stunt was used for much of the final duel. Also, Luke appears to toss away either the V2 or the (more likely) shared stunt (or stunt/Vader "hero") at the end of the duel (I think it has a Graflex clamp lever; I'll have to double-check).
And, regarding the Elstree "reveal" saber, here's a repost of my thoughts on the prop from the existing thread on it.
While this Elstree saber certainly is a cool item, I don't necessarily think this is a real prop made for the film back in 1982.
Consider this:
Various sources have said that the scene the prop was to appear in was never even filmed.
Further, there appears to a a *green crystal* inside the prop, beneath the control box. There are two things wrong with this:
1. The whole notion of lightsabers containing colored crystals surely did not exist in 1982, when this prop would have been built (unless the crystal was added to the prop years--maybe even decades--later).
2. At the time this prop would have been built, everyone thought that Luke's new saber would have a blue blade. Even early trailers for Jedi show the saber with a blue blade. It wasn't changed to green until long after filming was done. So why would this "authentic" prop have a green crystal (or any crystals to begin with)?
Also, Elstree claims to have made six sabers for the film, and these new revelations do tie in with that. Of course, if they're wrong about the "reveal" saber, they may be wrong about that, too.
The V2 is really unique among sabers. I'm rather conflicted about it. On the one hand, the "hero" is nice and pristine and looks like a newly-built saber (as the film's story indicates), but on the other hand, the V2 saw the most screen-time.
And, on the one hand, the stunt/Vader "hero" gets the best close-up in the film, so does that mean that the pristine/copper-necked "hero" version trumps the V2 as the "real" hero? Or does the V2's large amount of screen-time give it more weight in the argument?