Luke is a tool in ROTJ and Chewbacca is buck naked. SW Overthunk.

In ROTS how does R2 spew out more oil/lubricant than it looks like he could hold? Why does he even carry that much liquid whatever it is to begin with? Why did Star Wars turn into a stupid slapstick cartoon?
 
Anakin and Luke seem to understand Artoo. Luke's could be interpreted as more of a general understanding, like knowing what your dog wants, but Anakin seems to be able to literally understand his "words". At least in the cartoon, I haven't seen ROTS in years (but do seem to remember this happening).

I agree but I totally think its a cartoon thing. To me, in the movies, there is no indication of understanding between R2s words to Anakin. Luke clearly has no exact knowledge of what R2 is saying (like the "if you're saying...I'm beginning to agree with you" line in ESB).
 
"Luke is a tool"



its pretty clear, after ROTS, exactly what Yoda&Obi were thinking in ROTJ.

after everything that happened in ROTS, (anaking killing their precious younglings)..
..everything they do to 'anakins youngling' is bitter "payback":

they put Luke on tattooine, in the SAME house , with the SAME name..
they BARELY train him in the ways of the force..
(they teach him ONLY enough, for vader to sense him from across the galaxy)..
they teach him ONLY enough, to get himself KILLED.

"NO MORE training do you require". (yeah right) :rolleyes
(he doesn't even know 'this weapon if your life': lesson #1, jedi 101 ..)
( .. and so he throws his weapon/life away(!?) *clunk* "I am a Jedi like my father before me")

*facepalm*




THIS is what palpatine meant when he said "Only Now, At The End, Do You Understand.."

(translation: "..its OBVIOUS they sent you here to DIE!!")

YODA AND OBIWAN THREW LUKE UNDER A BUS!! :lol

(and then later, when anakin turns back, they sit there all smug at the end of ROTJ, like THIS was their plan all along).





--> luke was a "tool", all right.. but only a tool of obi&yoda.
they USED him, to get under anakin's skin.
they FED him to the emperor, so anakin could watch.

they KNEW anakin wouldn't sit idly by, and watch padme's love child,
getting brutally murdered by Sith Lightning..
(and they NEEDED anakin, to defeat the emperor).
..so they offered luke up as a sacrifice.

Luke was intentionally UN(der)TRAINED!

this is why Luke was such an incompetent tool.
this is why he couldn't sense his own sister.
this is why they left him on tattooine, with the name skywalker.

this is why he only had about a week of training on dagobah -- (the exact length of time that the falcon spent in the asteroid)--
and as soon as the emperor had officially sensed his presence, they told him..
"..whoops. no more training, dude." :confused




(they threw him under a bus)

(@Anakin: "...them apples, how do you like? eh? hmm? heh heh heh"[/yoda])
 
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I agree but I totally think its a cartoon thing. To me, in the movies, there is no indication of understanding between R2s words to Anakin. Luke clearly has no exact knowledge of what R2 is saying (like the "if you're saying...I'm beginning to agree with you" line in ESB).
I was thinking during all the business on the Fed ship at the beginning, but I'd have to look again.
 
To be fair Luke had no idea that Leia was his sister... :lol

Worst line in RotJ is after Luke tells Leia she is his sister and she responds with:

"I know. Somehow, I've always known."

Wait... what? You have always known? Let us hope that is not true because it adds a creepiness to the start of ESB that I don't want to think about!

It is bad enough for your sister to unknowingly lay one on you, but if she has always known... :sick
 
Well, George wanted to make Marion Ravenwood 12 years old or something, so, he's into it.

Luke clearly has no exact knowledge of what R2 is saying (like the "if you're saying...I'm beginning to agree with you" line in ESB).

When Luke leaves the snow planet Artoo says 'beepboop' and Luke answers 'we're not going there, we're going to Dagobah.' They're having a conversation. [unless R2 was typing it out as well on a monitor.]
 
When Luke leaves the snow planet Artoo says 'beepboop' and Luke answers 'we're not going there, we're going to Dagobah.' They're having a conversation. [unless R2 was typing it out as well on a monitor.]

I always assumed the words are R2's "subtitles" scrolling on his monitor.
 
Worst line in RotJ is after Luke tells Leia she is his sister and she responds with:

"I know. Somehow, I've always known."

Wait... what? You have always known? Let us hope that is not true because it adds a creepiness to the start of ESB that I don't want to think about!

It is bad enough for your sister to unknowingly lay one on you, but if she has always known... :sick

Maybe its like BTTF?

Leia: I don't know what it is, but when I kiss you, it's like I'm kissing... my brother. I guess that doesn't make any sense, does it?

Luke: Believe me. It makes perfect sense.
 
Why is it that everyone in the SW universe can understand every other creature. R2, Chewie, etc... except Jabba needs an interpretor.

How did Luke and Han jam there clothes under the stormtrooper armor and did Luke have his own comb or was it an imperial issued comb from inside the utility belt (his hair was nicely combed after the trash compactor scene).

1. I think the only reason Jabba needs the interpreter droid is for the intimidation factor. He really don't need him that much. He starts laughing when the thermal detonator is shown before 3PO says anything. He knows what he's saying beforehand, but just wants everyone to think he doesn't so they will slip up or expose themselves.

2. Luke uses the new space age hair gel "Brillocreme" available at the nearest Costco! Gaurenteed to work under any kind of stress (example: When luke pulls off his helmut in Leia's jail cell! He should be a walking advertisement for that product!)
 
He starts laughing when the thermal detonator is shown before 3PO says anything.

Actually, 3PO does say "Because he's holding a Thermal Detonator!" right when Leia pulls it out. Everyone in the room panics, takes cover and THEN Jabba starts laughing.
 
I always assumed the words are R2's "subtitles" scrolling on his monitor.

Because they are. In fact, Luke looks at it several times, and they focus the camera on it as well. Last thing someone needs in an Xwing is to be unable to understand his astromech.
 
Worst line in RotJ is after Luke tells Leia she is his sister and she responds with:

"I know. Somehow, I've always known."

Wait... what? You have always known?
I don't think she means she knew on a conscious level, only that she's kinda slapping her knee and saying "Ah-ha! Now it all makes sense!"
 
I have a few others.

Who is Yoda talking about when he says "All his life I watched this one..."

Luke? Ben?

Also,

Do you think the resistance from Cloud City to let Solo land was Lando's attempt to save him? Do you think it was part of the act to get him to land?

and

If Leia cared about Han, why wouldn't she understand that he needs to go pay Jabba off? Why does Han leaving HAVE to be permanant? Luke was able to leave for possibly weeks/months on Dagabah, but Han can't pay a lifesaving debt for a few minutes?
 
Yoda was talking about Luke.

I think the pod car pilots were following standard procedure.

Yeah, Leia is unreasonable.
 
for someone who is supposedly hot shot pilot and a kick ass jedi, Luke made some pretty stupid mistakes ..................
 
"Luke is a tool"



its pretty clear, after ROTS, exactly what Yoda&Obi were thinking in ROTJ.



(@Anakin: "...them apples, how do you like? eh? hmm? heh heh heh"[/yoda])

Seriously, this makes so much sense it's actually frightening :O I'm going to be watching the OT with completely different eyes after this :O
 
^Agreed, although I think they hoped (knew) Vader would spare him. But it certainly seems they took a risk! They also seem WAY more concerned Luke will be turned to the dark side than actually about him being killed.
 
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