Looper Blunderbuss - Pics of Painted Slushcast Kit on pg. 18

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  1. FakeBritishAccent

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    I'm a HUGE HUGE HUGE fan of Rian Johnson's first two flicks ("Brick" and "The Brothers Bloom," for those who haven't heard of him. His new movie "Looper" is a time-travel flick with Joseph Gordon-Levitt playing a young Bruce Willis.

    Ain't It Cool just posted the first pics of Joe in Bruce make-up, and while I'm super excited to see stills from the flick, I'm even MORE excited seeing those awesome guns that Joe's wielding. Anyone have ANY idea what gun the futuristic revolver and the odd-looking shotgun are based on? I wanna get a head-start (despite the fact that I won't be able to do any sort of real work until it's out on Blu Ray and DVD).

    Wacky Revolver:
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    Shotgun
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    Also, I didn't want to start a separate thread for this...but I TOTALLY want a replica of the jacket he's wearing in the first pic as well. I. Can't. Wait.

    -Jonaas
     
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  2. FakeBritishAccent

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    "Looper" Blunderbuss Shotgun WIP

    HI-RES SHOTS!

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    Upon closer inspection, that "shotgun" he's holding in the second shot is more of a billy club of some sort. But does anyone have any ideas about the revolver base?

    -Jonaas
     
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  3. Birdie

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    The revolver in the top pic looks like it's based on a Mateba.
     
  4. GrenadeKing

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    The revolver in the top pic is very likely a Mateba model.

    Not too sure on the revolver in the second picture. Seems to be a large caliber whatever it is. The other thing he's holding looks to be a custom job but, the main ribbed body appears to be a quad rail AR15 hand guard.
     
  5. Contec

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    Maybe the Mateba Model 6 Unica with 5" Barrel - .357 Magnum

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  6. FakeBritishAccent

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    I think that's the one! I'd never even HEARD of Mateba! Now, I'm going to try and track down a live Unica for myself!
     
  7. Birdie

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    Probably best known (around here...) as the sidearm of choice for Togusa in the Ghost in the Shell movies & TV series, and Wash's pistol in Serenity.

    The modified Serenity gun was also used by Gerard Butler in Gamer.
     
  8. Noeland

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    They don't make Mateba's anymore, haven't for years. They are very expensive, and can be hard to find. Not impossible. Good luck.

    In the other pic, I think the gun in his right hand is a Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 7.5" barrel, and black grips. The left hand, no way to be sure what that is under the quad rail. The grips looks like bone.

    Another film with a mateba: Give 'em Hell Malone:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9MJXSePl_A
     
  9. FakeBritishAccent

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    Aw, man...what a bummer. I'll do my best, but money is DEFINITELY an object and if it's as expensive as I'm imagining it is, I'll have to let it go or dive into another scratchbuild.

    As far as the Blackhawk, thanks for the find, but right now I've got a real hard-on for the Mateba so I'm focusing my search on that. There's gotta be a resin cast out there somewhere.
     
  10. MFP 2020

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    The quad rail appears to be an Olympic Arms free-floating RIS (rail interface system), but it looks to have removable rails, so maybe not that exact brand. The vent holes match up, though.

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    I thought it was a club, but evidently it has a trigger and goes boom.
     
  11. GrenadeKing

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  12. MFP 2020

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    You're the King.

    Google image search, not so much.
     
  13. Sundowner

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  15. MFP 2020

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    You mean caliber-wise? Not necessarily. It performs like a shotgun, but unless it's a space—I mean looper—gun, it would have to be a single shot. (Maybe it is. We'll see.)

    Or physical size? Yes. :)
     
  16. cayman shen

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    The Mateba is one of my dream guns...love it!
     
  17. Vivek

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    Thanks, yeah I was referring to the length choice listed amongst the three.
     
  18. MFP 2020

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    Ah. I didn't see the other choices. Looks pretty simple (if pricey): RIS, wood stock, trigger and guard, tape, and those mystery bits on each end.

    Who's first?
     
  19. nickytea

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    That jacket is too cool for me not to make.
    And that Looper's Gun is too awesome not to cobble.

    Thank God I know the script is amazing. Worthwhile investment, gents.
     
  20. nick daring

    nick daring Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Big Rian Johnson fan too.

    Can't wait to see this.

    Nick
     
  21. lharles

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    Wow. I didn't even know this movie was coming. Just watched the trailer.

    I might actually have to go see this one in the theater. :)
     
  22. Randy of AFTimes

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    I saw a rough cut of the movie in Nov. 2011.
    Looking forward to seeing it again in Sept!

    The long weapon is a "blunderbuss" (at least that's how they refer to it) that Looper's use for the kills.

    There is another character , not shown in the trailer, Kid Blue (Brick's Noah Segan) who also carries a large revolver. I believe it is a Casul but I can't rightly remember.

    Hope this helps.
     
  23. Rymo

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    Here are some stills from the trailer that might help with some of the main props.


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  24. renaissance_man

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    I too would love one of those grey jackets as in the first screenshots, nice cut and very clean looking.
    Anyone making them?
     
  25. Sundowner

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    I was thinking the same thing. That jacket/blazer is really sharp!
     
  26. Kingpin

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    Browsing eBay UK for an unrelated prop search involving pocket watches, I stumbled across this interesting watch, which instantly reminded me of the unusual dial of Joe's vintage timepiece:

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    After a little searching, I started to narrow my field to watches from Turkey, specifically the Ottoman Empire... which led me to this:

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    The hands are different, and the flower design near the shaft for the hands isn't the same, but the overall elements are pretty close, and the case looks fairly similar.

    The closer match is dated to around 1870, and is listed for just shy of $700.

    The solution to finding an affordable, accurate timepiece, would be to find a close enough case from a cheaper model, and simply replace the dial graphics with a digital recreation, complete with screen-accurate weathering.
     
  27. FakeBritishAccent

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    Aw man, that watch is a beaut...but at $700, it's too rich for my blood right now.

    As for the blazer, I suspect it's an off the rack item, seeing as all the other props from the movie seem to be found objects (the blunderbuss notwithstanding, but it IS cobbled together from existing arms). That being said, I do a search on clothing companies whose pieces have very distinct looking red buttons on them.
     
  28. Randy of AFTimes

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    OK, so between staring at the photo of JGL with the pistol & "blunderbus" on the porch and the power of Twitter, the pistol he's carrying is a Magnum Research .45/70 revolver.

    Another character, Kid Blue, carries one as well, though nickel-plated and modified for a "western" look.

    September can't come soon enough to see it again.
     
  29. nickytea

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    You're welcome.
     
  30. nickytea

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    Now what is that muzzle?
     
  31. PropArtist

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    I'm interested in that jacket as well.

    Lemme know if anyone has plans to make it.
     
  32. Sundowner

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    Thanks nick!
     
  33. FakeBritishAccent

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    Sweet! Thanks, Nick! BTW, there's also a great album of SDCC "Looper" pics in the RPF album. Anyone got an eye for identifying parts, please chime in. It doesn't look like it'll be too hard to scratchbuild, but if there's an easier way to do this, I'm more than game.

    -Jonaas
     
  34. FakeBritishAccent

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    The RPF album's caption says the main body is a Yankee Hill Machine Co Rifle Length Smooth Forearm Part# YHM-5005. After scrutinizing the pics, I totally agree.

    Okay, so we've got a starting point. At this point, I'm going with the rail, trigger-guard cannibalized off an old air-soft, trigger made of heat-formed round styrene, a hand-carved wood grip mounted to a lenght of aluminum pipe (which I'll mount the rail onto), carved-wood slide and perhaps some sort of modified PVC coupler for the muzzle. Gentlemen, start your engines!
     
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  35. Art Andrews

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    Re: Rian Johnson's "Looper"...I LOVE these props!

    You can find more high res photos of the shotgun here:

    Looper - the RPF Gallery
     
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  36. FakeBritishAccent

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    I was digging through the Yankee Hill website and found this. Perhaps the muzzle is a modified version of this piece (cut down to size, rail removed, gap in muzzle filled?). I'll try and find a shot of this mini forearm with the rails removed so we can try to match the front profile of the shotgun.
     
  37. Art Andrews

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    I would be surprised to see any other part beside the main body being a found part. The company who built these guns VERY VERY rarely use found parts. Could be wrong, but most likely, they would just need to be machined.
     
  38. nickytea

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    SPILL IT, ANDREWS.
    :lol
     
  39. FakeBritishAccent

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    Okay, I think I'm onto something...

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    This is Yankee Hill's Mini Length Forearm. Yankee Hill is the manufacturer of the rifle-length forearm we all seem to agree is the base for the blunderbuss.

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    Here's some quick and dirty MSPaint work of how that mini forearm would look if the the top and bottom rails were removed, an inch and a half or so were cut off from the front and grooves were machined on the rear. My theory all hinges on how the mini forearm looks when all four of its' rails are removed, but so far, this looks to be promising start on the muzzle.

    So I've got a plan. Check out the muzzle shot from the first page of this thread...you can distinctly see that the "barrel" of the gun is actually some type of aluminum pipe. My guess is the base of the blunderbuss is simply the rifle-length forearm and the mini-length forearm mounted onto the pipe. The stock of the gun is probably hand carved and jammed into the back end of the pipe. The rear base of the gun (where the stock meets the receiver) is tough to ID. Thoughts?
     
  40. FakeBritishAccent

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    Boomp!
     
  41. Art Andrews

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    Hmmm.... it does look like a piece, but I don't think it is THAT piece. At that point, it would be easier to just machine your own endcap as it would be to try to mod the one you posted... but you might be on to something.
     
  42. Sundowner

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    My blunderbuss build has officially started!
     
  43. Art Andrews

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    Just wanted to post up a good comparison photo of the body of the shotgun to show anyone stopping by that there is no doubt this is indeed the Yankee Hill YHM-5005 Rifle Length Smooth Forearm.

    I am going to say that I don't believe the endcap is a found item, but is a machined piece, made to match the body. There are a lot of details on it that don't match the body and are indicative of a machined or even a cast part.

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  44. Kerr Avon

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    Anyone know if there's some explanation why people with the ability to travel in time have what appears to be such low tech, pieced together weapons? That's something that keeps bothering me looking at the previews for this movie.
     
  45. RipleyFX

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    Anybody have the overall dimensions for the YHM-5005?
    I checked their website but they aren't listed.
     
  46. nexnox

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    The front "endcap" and rear "endcap" we're all hand machined. The handle was a Waterjet piece clad with the custom wood grips. Every part on that gun is custom save the shroud.
     
  47. Sundowner

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    Well there you have it
     
  48. FakeBritishAccent

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    Well, that takes care of that. I'll put in my order for the YHM-5005 soon, and I think I'll just scratchbuild the endcaps out of PVC pipe and Apoxie Sculpt. As for the stock, I think it'll go with 1/4" thick plexiglass topped with hand-carved wood grips (with some precision Dremel carving to match the grips' texture).

    The trailers have me believing that the Loopers themselves don't travel through time, only their targets do. As for the wonky look of the Blunderbuss, I think it may have something to do with the guns needing to be homemade so they can't be traced (or something).

    -Jonaas
     
  49. FakeBritishAccent

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    I just got my YHM-5005! After I take some accurate measurements, I'm going to pick up some aluminum pipe to use as the main body of my blunderbuss.

    It looks like I'm going to have to get certain areas of the piece milled...I have a pretty steady Dremel hand, but not THAT steady.

    -Jonaas
     
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  50. Sundowner

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    Awesome! Hopefully you post some build progress!
     

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