Lightsaber builds: V2, V3, Obi Stunt, Vader ROTJ & Technical Manual Saber

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  1. Country Paul

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    I've debated whether or not to post this build thread because I know it's not accurate, but I put a lot of work into this saber & figured it was worth sharing :)

    this was I think the 2nd lightsaber I bought, I got it from eBay for about £10, it started off as a kind of Luke Hero, it had a crude control box glued on when I got it (that I never took a picture of) & a switch next to it (it has a battery pack & bulb inside it?) I think someone probably made it at home :lol

    I'd added a Graflex clamp when I first got it & later added the foil coverings to make it more Shared stunt looking

    the new V2 information & run reignited my interest in this saber so I decided to use it to try & finally get over my fear of drilling into lightsabers

    armed with my trusty hand drill I slowly started adding the 2 holes behind the pommel & the 2 holes in the emmiter/windvane,

    I used a hand saw to cut a notch in the neck, & files to remove the "nipple" from the emitter

    All of which took me ages by hand & provided me with some lovely blisters
     

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  2. Country Paul

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    Re: My Luke ROTJ V3 Shared Stunt Lightsaber conversion

    I re-did the foil coverings on the Graflex clamp (which is a really worn old original clamp) I also drilled 2 holes either side of it (which were a pain)

    i also re-did the other foil on the emitter & pommel

    I repainted the neck & emitter & called it job done:lol

    I know its not accurate, I think just about every measurement is off & it has that horrible step where the neck joins the body :facepalm

    the pommel cubes move round, & the neck is held in place with a set screw through the grenade

    but hopefully I've captured the crappy spirit of the shared stunt, this is basically me trying to make the best of a bad job

    I'd really like a decent shared stunt & would love a cast one

    on my prop budget I can't afford to let anything go to waste so for now this will do :)

    can't wait for my V2 from the new run

    my plan is to eventually re-do my Russrep V2 as an ANH Obi stunt saber, I never really liked the idea of an AFB V2 but I do like the idea of it as the stunt saber with the red button, bubble strip & Obi paint scheme etc.
     

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  3. Sym-Cha

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    Re: My Luke ROTJ V3 Shared Stunt Lightsaber conversion

    Nice upgrade indeed :)

    Chaim
     
  4. cayman shen

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    Re: My Luke ROTJ V3 Shared Stunt Lightsaber conversion

    That looks really sharp dude. *, now I'm thinking I want to do that with my new V2...aaarrgghh.
     
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    Re: My Luke ROTJ V3 Shared Stunt Lightsaber conversion

    Very cool!

    Looking good!
     
  6. halliwax

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    very nice job at upgrading it!
     
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  7. Country Paul

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    Re: My Luke ROTJ V3 Shared Stunt Lightsaber conversion

    I don't really like starting new threads for every build so figure I'll make this my V2, V3 & Obi Stunt thread

    since I signed up for the Starkiller run I started planning to re-do my Russrep V2 as its ANH Obi Stunt incarnation

    my plan is to strip the paint & repaint it but I still can't decide how it should be painted, these are all the pictures I can find of the ANH era Obi Stunts

    In at least one pic it looks like it has black booster & grips, a brownish windvane & grey emmiter but in other pictures it looks all black

    I'm sure someone knows the answer but what I'm thinking is that there are 2 different sabers in these pics V2 & V3

    the picture of the saber resting on his shoulder I'm assuming is the V2 complete with long lever & what looks like all black paint??

    In the other pic of him holding it straight (with no visible clamp) im guessing might be the V3/shared stunt with a more detailed paint job

    maybe I'm wrong & it's just the light (& I've been looking at the pics too long) but I figure given its condition in ROTJ nobody bothered take off the V2's ANH paint & repainted it black so maybe it was always all black?

    my current plan for my Russ V2 is to paint the booster, rings, neck & Emitter (except the nipple) black, I'm going to put a bubble strip in the clamp along with the long lever & one sidebar, I want to add a red button to the Cone knob hole & a wire from the filister screw hole, I'm also going to put Obi transistors on the clamp

    kinda idealised Obi Stunt (well that's the plan anyway)
     

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  8. halliwax

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    I think this is very cool! So the v3 is just the shared stunt?
     
  9. Country Paul

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    Yes V3/shared stunt is the same thing, don't know if I'm right about which is which in the ANH pics though

    It's fair to say I'm a little bit obsessed with the V2, the new Starkiller one will be my 5th since I started collecting 3 years ago :lol

    looking forward to getting started on the new one but for some reason started messing with my Russrep 1st

    inspired by PoopaPapaPalps upgrades I've added the grub screw to the booster & plan to add the 2 screws to the Emitter nipple

    I've found an old drill bit that fits in the emitter like the rod on the Starkiller :lol (I know not accurate for ANH Obi stunt but thought I'd have a bit sticking out)

    1st pic is my EFX, Yodas house, Russrep & MR V2's, the blank saber is the new Starkiller & the rest are my Russrep as it is now (ready for taking the paint off)
     

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    Re: V2, V3 & ANH Obi Stunt builds

    Since I have your attention right now, is my avatar pic obiwan? I noticed since I view your thread my avatar changed? Weird?
     
  11. Country Paul

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    Re: V2, V3 & ANH Obi Stunt builds

    :lol No it's still the same (not Obi Wan)
     
  12. halliwax

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    Re: V2, V3 & ANH Obi Stunt builds

    That came out beautifully, how did you remove the paint?
     
  13. Country Paul

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    The blank is the New Starkiller V2 (sorry just realised that was probably a confusing post)

    the painted one is my Russrep, planning to take the paint off with acetone, wire wool, sandpaper, whatever works :lol
     
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    Thank you, must be some glitch on my end, the site has been so weird lately, doing double posts and asking me to leave the page when ever I post. This avatar change is something new, but back on subject

    im on the Starkiller run too, I have received mine yet though. I got the cards and clamps on the way, still on a hunt for a clamp. My biggest fear is not weathering it right, I want to simulate exactly what you have done

    another thing I was thinking and I have to look at the bluray sometime this week but I wonder how shiny the aluminum is on the v2. Since it was made and used ANH it's got some age to it, I wonder if rubbing vinegar, or soaking it in sea water would dull it enough... Heck it might not even need dulling once I compare the bluray

    honestly I really like how you weathered it

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    Another hobby I have is automotive, Mustangs and ford lightning's which are super charged. Their rotors in the superchargers are coved in a film of paint and the paint flakes off and cloggs the lower intercooler. We use this stuff call "aircraft stripper" you soak the aluminum in that and the paint bubbles off and the aluminum finish isn't effected. The rotors come out real shiny and new and stay that way, other then other chemicals that will dull and tarnish the finish, let me see if I can grab you a pic

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    Theres a example
     
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    Re: V2, V3 & ANH Obi Stunt builds

    I just noticed from your reference pictures how far the clamp moved up the grenade section quite a bit when Sir Alec wielded that stuntsaber on set :wacko

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    Chaim
     
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    This is wonderful, can't wait to see the paint jobs! (Yodas house made sabers?!) in that last pic I got the idea the clamp was just loose and fell. Also that photo makes me think the neck was a dark brown
     
  18. MCM

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    Re: V2, V3 & ANH Obi Stunt builds

    I, too, have been planning out an ANH era Kenobi saber. I've been pouring over what little visual reference I can find, and I do believe that the portion under the emitter is brown or copper colored. Even on the ROTJ era v2 it looks as is there was copper or brown paint that was then painted over with black. When I get back to my pc, I'll post some screens to back up my theory. I also think that at least one ofthe stunt sabers had a darker grey emitter, as opposed to black like most interpretations have.
     
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  19. Country Paul

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    Re: V2, V3 & ANH Obi Stunt builds

    I'm still thinking there are a couple of different stunts in the ANH pics (V2 & V3)?

    there is definitely one that has the copper/brown neck & grey emmiter but I'm still leaning towards the V2 being all black

    I found a slightly higher res version of the V2 on Obi's shoulder pic, the wire going up his sleeve is much clearer than on the other pics I had

    wire looks black in this pic but whiteish in the one posted above

    also trying to figure out if I can see transistors on the "practice" saber pic from ESB era
     

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  20. Country Paul

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    Still haven't started on my Starkiller V2 but I have added some grub screws to the nipple of my Russrep V2

    maybe not quite as straight/well positioned as I'd like but think they're ok, I used the same size grub screws as the Starkiller

    the old Drill bit I've used for the rod fits in the saber perfectly

    I guess this is as accurate as my Russrep V2 gets before I strip off the paint :lol

    i quite like the idea of having some rod sticking out once I re paint as an Obi Stunt although I have nothing to base it on

    been looking for a suitable red button for this but not found anything suitable yer
     

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    now seeing this pic, and how clear the black wire is coming out the bottom.. i dont know now if i still believe the "mystery chunk" plugs the power wire hole...
     
  22. Country Paul

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    I finally got round to giving my new Starkiller V2 a coat of black paint, I masked off the clamp spacer & the Emitter Nipple (as far as I can tell from the ANH pics that part wasn't ever black)

    to be honest I probably put it on too thick & it came out a touch more textured than I'd like (they seem to have changed something in my normal satin black paint as I've had this problem painting my Leia blaster too)

    i considered taking it back off but thought Hey I'm gonna weather it anyway & I can't imagine the originals were painted that delicately :lol

    I thought I'd take some pics pre weathering (AFB) as kind of a dry run for my Russrep ANH stunt paint

    at the moment I'm leaning towards an all black paint job for it, I know there is the pic of a stunt with a brownish copper neck & grey emmiter but others look all black? We know there were more than 1 Obi Stunts & it still doesn't make sense to me that they'd repaint it black post ANH given how battered it was even in the ESB practice pics & then in ROTJ (but I could be wrong) + I like how the all black looks & feels like an evolution between the 2 incarnations.

    I started weathering the Starkiller, well I took the paint off the rings with the edge of a knife, but it's a start
     

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  23. Country Paul

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    Slow progress not no progress :lol

    not it had a lot of time to work on this, so far I've only weathered the Emitter face & Booster (which have taken a couple of hours with a cocktail stick)

    Soooo much more to go
     

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    Your weathering is looking great, particularly the emitter face. How many days of drying do you allow your paint before going at it with the cocktail stick/toothpick?
     
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    I'd like to add this picture. It may be that there was brass on the upper neck and not on the lower half, the grenade they used was pretty black.

    images.jpg

    Also, there were at least two Hero's right? (different grenades) what if they made stunts that matched the coloring of one, and then the coloring of the other.

    New_Obi_Saber_Pic-vi.jpg obi-weathered_black_large.jpg
     
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  26. Country Paul

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    I think I painted it back on Saturday, I had no plan regards drying time, I'm just working on it as & when

    the paint was dry after 24hrs, it's hard going with the cocktail sticks but it doesn't scratch the finish like a file, blade etc ( I want it weathered not scratched :lol)

    my feeling is that the V2 was always all black whilst the V3 had the brass neck/grey emitter (do we know that there weren't other stunts which haven't survived?)

    given how slap dash most of the prop continuity was I'm not sure they'd have bothered to deliberately replicate 2 finishes on the stunts but who knows

    if the V2 ever had a brass windvane/neck then you'd think at least some of the paint would remain even in its battered appearance
     
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  27. Country Paul

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    My slow progress finally started to feel like it was getting somewhere :lol

    I finished my first round of weathering on the emitter & body & then finally tried a test fit

    I used to rubber rings on the metal rod to hold the bearing in place (not sure how this'll hold up over time but it's working for now)

    I finally added the D-Ring which I found super stressful & made a complete hash of :facepalm

    first I cut out a small section in the centre of the D-Ring & then just tried to bend a little to get it in to place, managed to put a dirty great scratch on the pommel cube

    I think the pommel is looking a little shiny so I'm planning to very lightly sand & then use a little wire wool on it to dull the finish

    just waiting for my square set screw/mystery Chunk now

    i had to add a little bit of electrical tape on the inside of the clamp to keep it from sliding round too much
     

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    Nice progress. Real nice.
     
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    Really nice work, well done:thumbsup
     
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    progress is coming along great
     
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    I love the rubber washer idea!
     
  32. Country Paul

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    :lol Thanks, though it's not particularly clever & I'm sure I'm not the first to do it, it's just what I had to hand

    it does give a nice tight adjustable fit, I don't like gluing things on my props I usually like things to be reversible & able to be taken apart (not sure why)

    I'm kinda wishing I'd very lightly sanded the Emitter before painting to match the Body (which looked pre sanded!) but I'll live as I don't fancy re painting & re weathering

    I think I do need to give the pommel a light sand (& a few knocks)

    looking forward to getting my mystery chunk but not to installing it :lol I've drilled various holes in my V2 & V3 but it always makes me nervous, I start off with a hand drill & then finish with a proper drill but no drill press or anything just me trying to hold it still.
     
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    The rubber washer idea is nice. I ended up using a shaft collar for mine so there's not glue and everything is held together mechanically.

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    this is what I was hunting down at lowes, with no luck.
     
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    I had to order mine from McMasterCarr. It sucks just buying one thing from there, but if you have a list of like 5-6 different types of hardware you need, regardless, for different projects, is not horrible. Because I needed a 5/16 bore shaft collar, I'm pretty sure I was only gonna find it online.
     
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    You don't happen to have the list number u used to order still do you?
     
  37. PoopaPapaPalps

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    These are sold in tandem with the square set screw at the hardware store I frequent. It's funny how that store usually doesn't have what I'm looking for but is now the place to go to find the things everyone else is looking for.:p
     
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    Shaft Collar with a 5/16" bore.
    http://www.mcmaster.com/#6432k13/=yiydx4


    And just for fun, here's the link for the Square Head set screw I used. Its threaded for 1/4-20.
    http://www.mcmaster.com/#94087a114/=yiyek4

    If you're ordering stuff, might as well get a few things, haha.
     
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    I really like this idea, it's not going to corrode or split or pop off like rubber could :lol

    I found a set of 7 on eBay for £1 they're all different sizes but one of them is 5/16" & I figure the others may end up being good for something

    thanks for the tip :)
     
  41. Luke the Belter

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    That's a great idea :thumbsup Thanks.


    Edit: Wrong thread. Thought I was writing in the V2 thread.
     
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    Breath taking!
     
  43. Country Paul

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    My Square set screws arrived yesterday from PoopaPapaPalps so I decided tonight that it was time to man up & drill a whacking great hole in the pommel of my expensive new lightsaber :lol

    I started by drilling a small hole by hand & then got my drill & started using increasingly larger bits until it was the right size

    I screwed in the set screw with the help of some pliers

    it's not perfectly straight as I had to just hold the pommel in place & drill through as straight as I could

    I'm happy enough & im not gonna mess with it now
     

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    Looks great! A bit too clean for my tastes but great none the less!
     
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    looks great! i think im going to tackle doing this. i just need to do some more research and make sure i drill the hole in the correct location
     
  46. Country Paul

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    :lol I hear ya, I think it needs a few more knocks & dings, I'm working myself up to it

    I had a good look at the available pictures before drilling (but in the end I basically just eyeballed it) even if I try to be precise when it comes to me drilling it never works out quite that way :lol
     
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    Looks great. And nice drilling. :thumbsup

    I'm thinking about doing this many times and I'm not sure yet. The drill will slip and leave a deep scratch on the pommel for sure.
     
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    I literally drilled mine in the most amateurish way possible, I carefully started a small pilot hole with a hand drill (basically drill bit in a screwdriver handle) once I was down a few mm I went out to the garage, put the pommel on a towel on a stool & just held it in place as best I could as I drilled & kept increasing the bit size until the set screw fit :lol

    Ive always thought the pommel looks weird in this pic but it may be a trick of the light & angle, as Markus says it is Alec Guinness's finger passing under the neck but it does look like there is something crossing over the neck (maybe a wire)? So hard to see on these blurry pics
     

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