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Re: WIP Ironman Costume for 5yr old - Chest Armor painted!

Wish I could be there! :(

2012. Just put it on your calendar right now, dude. You bring your latest Ironman suit and I'll... I'll find some willing attendee that will let me build a cool costume for them. Then we'll BOTH have costumes to show off next year! :):thumbsup
 
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Your work is just amazing and your son is one lucky kid!
I'm about to start on some foam parts for my build and noticed your neckseal was a different file than the one I have (robo's). Is there any chance you could direct me to the file you used? Thanks and once again your work is inspiring!
 
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That neck file he used can be found in Dancin' Fool's thread. It's the neck he modeled for the mark 3 armor.. but in my opinion looks great with the Mark VI as I used the same thing as well.
 
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Indie,
Count me and my girl in for Dragon con 2012. We will be the Iron Family that is walking around in awe of the awesomeness surrounding us! We've only been to Jacon and MetroCon so the Drag is a big goal of ours, Just hope our suits will be cool enough to stand out!
 
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Thanks Gordan!
 
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I think I just keeping saying the same words over and over - Amazing, awesome....but they fit!

Back from D*C finally :) Great 4 days, but I am exhausted.
 
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Indie,
Count me and my girl in for Dragon con 2012. We will be the Iron Family that is walking around in awe of the awesomeness surrounding us! We've only been to Jacon and MetroCon so the Drag is a big goal of ours, Just hope our suits will be cool enough to stand out!

Allison and I ended up missing D*Con this year. :cry

Her parents in VA were hit with a freak hail storm that knocked out power, and since her father heads a maintenance team for a hospital, he was out into the early hours of Sat am working. So, without her parents coming down for the kids, we had to miss the whole convention! Sucked... but what can you do - it was an act of God.

I'm buying my 2012 D*Con tickets as soon as they go on sale, so we can all look forward to meeting up next Sept! :):thumbsup


I think I just keeping saying the same words over and over - Amazing, awesome....but they fit!
Back from D*C finally :) Great 4 days, but I am exhausted.

I am SO happy you had a BLAST! I'm also overwhelmingly excited that your daughter WON SECOND PLACE at the Masquerade for your Cyberman costume!!!! :D:thumbsup

I'm really, really sad we weren't down in Atlanta this weekend to see you in person, but maybe you'll consider coming down next year?


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As far as Mikey's suit goes, I should give everyone an update there too. :$

With less than two months to go before Halloween, I need to really get moving. This weekend I managed to print and cut out all the pep pieces for his left leg. I'm sure it will be the wrong scale, but hopefully, the build doesn't take too long, as I still need to do his under-armor and boots (not to mention the support system and finishing touches).

It's been a nice slow build... I guess it's time to really get it going now!
 
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Definitely will have to get down there again! Does anyone do the cons up here towards Chicago? And OMG I get what y'all mean by getting the bug. My older daughter has decided she wants a costume. And it HAS to be bigger and better than her little sisters!
 
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I feel like I've been working a lot on Mikey's costume, but don't have much to show for it.

I've been creating the paper pep model for his legs and between the thigh and the lower leg, that took a bit of time to build up. Here's the full leg unit as a paper pep...
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I did some test fitting and my very first lower leg piece fit like a GLOVE - perfect on try #1! :love

However, the same scale for the thigh would only go about half-way up Mikey's leg, so I've had to add almost 2 inches to the top diameter of the thigh piece.
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I've added this material on the inside of the thigh, so it shouldn't take away (or effect) the 'look' of the leg armor.

It's pretty rough-looking up close, but it will work to make my foam templates. :):thumbsup

HOWEVER, before I rushed into building foam pieces I wanted to make sure his boot would work with these pieces... so, more paper pep work. :cry

The first boot (at just a hair over the scale of the leg) came out WAY too small. So, I've now cranked up the scale by ~5-7% and now the boot will fit a Mikey-sized slip-on style shoe (yet to be purchased).

Here is a pic of one of his tennis shoes in part of the larger piece I'm building.
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***That shoe will NOT be the final shoe we use - we still need to pick up a slip-on shoe for this.

Here is a pic of the small paper pep boot I started to build as well as most of the work I've done on the larger one - you can tell how much I've pushed the scale up on this piece... which is the main reason I wanted to get these done before creating the foam legs (just to make sure they all work together and don't look 'silly').
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So, that's it... lot's of printing, cutting and gluing, but not a lot of finished parts laying around.

IF the scale of this latest boot works with the leg pieces (it looks like it will - with only minor alteration), I'm probably going to harden the paper boot (fiberglass/bondo). And then, since they appear to be symmetrical (non-right/left specific), I'm seriously considering casting it and pouring myself two resin-plastic copies. They will likely be lighter and tougher than the hardened piece, I won't have to make two of them and best of all... they'll definitely match! :love:thumbsup
 
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So in the end you will have made....4 sets of boots? Your patience and energy astound me. Seriously.

I need to think about this Resin/pep business. I have a new project in mind and would like the "plastic" look....

Great job!
 
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So in the end you will have made....4 sets of boots? Your patience and energy astound me. Seriously.

I need to think about this Resin/pep business. I have a new project in mind and would like the "plastic" look....

Great job!

Hopefully, it will just be the two paper pep boots (pictured), one of those will be hardened with fiberglass, smoothed with bondo and then cast into a mold that I can use to pour two plastic versions of that one hardened boot. So, I guess there will be four total boots made... but only one 'fully' made boot and two resin/plastic copies of it via the mold. :love

That's FAR less boot-making then the forearm pieces I made... Holy Cow, I must have built that piece 5-6 times in paper (trying to get the scale correct) before starting in on the foam versions (which took another 4-5 times to get that conversion right). Now, I have the 'system' down a bit better, but I feel like could STILL build Ironman forearm armor in my sleep! :lol

You should give Pepakura a try - it's totally fun for the first few hundred hours of cutting and gluing! :behave

Seriously, it's pretty awesome to take these sheets of card stock and start putting the pieces together in a way that slowly turns into this very awesome item. It's very, very satisfying to finish up a pep piece and see whatever 3D object you were staring at on the computer sitting on your table/desk in real space.... but then again, I'm a geek. :):thumbsup
 
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Hopefully, it will just be the two paper pep boots (pictured), one of those will be hardened with fiberglass, smoothed with bondo and then cast into a mold that I can use to pour two plastic versions of that one hardened boot. So, I guess there will be four total boots made... but only one 'fully' made boot and two resin/plastic copies of it via the mold. :love

That's FAR less boot-making then the forearm pieces I made... Holy Cow, I must have built that piece 5-6 times in paper (trying to get the scale correct) before starting in on the foam versions (which took another 4-5 times to get that conversion right). Now, I have the 'system' down a bit better, but I feel like could STILL build Ironman forearm armor in my sleep! :lol

You should give Pepakura a try - it's totally fun for the first few hundred hours of cutting and gluing! :behave

Seriously, it's pretty awesome to take these sheets of card stock and start putting the pieces together in a way that slowly turns into this very awesome item. It's very, very satisfying to finish up a pep piece and see whatever 3D object you were staring at on the computer sitting on your table/desk in real space.... but then again, I'm a geek. :):thumbsup

LOL! I bet you could build them in your sleep. I was thinking of trying Pep on a prop...but not sure what - maybe a sonic screwdriver? I need to get the files though - I have a Mac and the pep builder software isn't for Mac. Grrrr.
 
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Amazing work. Your patience with the trial and error in order to get it right is impressive. I'd be more than tempted to go with "close enough" on many of those pieces. Not to mention the fact you are making the cyclops costume at the same time. Keep up the feats of awesomeness!! :thumbsup
 
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LOL! I bet you could build them in your sleep. I was thinking of trying Pep on a prop...but not sure what - maybe a sonic screwdriver? I need to get the files though - I have a Mac and the pep builder software isn't for Mac. Grrrr.

Find the prop pepakura file (it will be a .pdo) you're interested in and anyone with a PC can output pdf's of the pieces. The only time this won't work is if you need it scaled (and didn't know how much). In THAT case, you'd need to run the software probably, but for something like a full-scale model you want to create, just email me the .pdo and I'll output the thing to .pdf so you can print it.

Amazing work. Your patience with the trial and error in order to get it right is impressive. I'd be more than tempted to go with "close enough" on many of those pieces. Not to mention the fact you are making the cyclops costume at the same time. Keep up the feats of awesomeness!! :thumbsup

Yeah, I'm seriously wondering (with 6 weeks left) if I need to start a bit more 'close enough' work so I make sure the kid has a costume! :lol
 
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...$6 at Family Dollar...and now I have some great slip on shoes for permanent mounting in the Ironman boots!

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NOTE REGARDING MIKEY'S SIZE:
For anyone interested in what type of challenge it's been to hit a moving target like Mikey's size when the project started in Dec of last year, here's a good example... Mikey has gained THREE shoe sizes in that time! :eek

Luckily, I've kept things like his boots and legs to the VERY end of the project. The helmet (the first thing completed) still fits, his arms and chest were built within the last couple months -- so they're good... Now it's legs, boots and under armor - all of which had to wait until he was much closer to his final size for completion.

I love it when a plan comes together! :):thumbsup
 
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curious since you posted to tape off the corners after plasti dip before paint what do you do after to the corners? leave them the color of the plasti dip?

also how do you plan to mount the handplate?
 
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curious since you posted to tape off the corners after plasti dip before paint what do you do after to the corners? leave them the color of the plasti dip?

Not exactly sure which suggestion the taping was for, but I'm guessing it's in reference to the gloss coat. I paint the entire piece with the final paint color after plasti-dip (and an adhesive promoter). The only time I'd avoid the edges of the foam (most sensitive to bending and torquing) would be if you were going to hit the piece with a final gloss coating to get it to really shine. In that case, you might want to cover the edges with painter's tape... but only for that gloss coat.

also how do you plan to mount the handplate?

Right now they're hot glued onto the hardened wrist pieces. I'm not sure if that will work permanently, as the surface of the painted wrist piece is very slick and, if bumped, the handplate piece might pull off. I'd imagine, epoxy would be the best permanent way to attach the pieces together.
 
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Sorry for the delay in getting some of this build progress updated... Crazy two weeks at work. :rolleyes

So, I've got three different projects I'm working on right now for Mikey's suit.

First, I've got his boot... Now, I'm working on the assumption that the sole of the boot HAS to be hardened (if it will support Mikey standing on it). But he will lose mobility and comfort if the whole boot (especially the ankle area) is rigid. My purposed solution to this problem is to separate the two areas and make one rigid and the other soft (sorta like a retail shoe).

I would like to harden and smooth with bondo the sole-section of the boot and then take a quick cast of it so I can make two resin/plastic copies which should be strong enough for Mikey to stand on. Within this design, I hope to keep some 'connection points' so I can easily attach the foam top section that will be the top part of the boot.

This might seem complicated (and it probably is), but it's easier to just SEE what I'm doing... so here's some pictures!

Here are the Boot parts. Top of the picture is the slip-on shoe that Mikey will have his foot in, the middle section is the part I'll make out of EVA foam and the lowest section is the part I would like to harden, smooth and then cast in resin.
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Now, there are two issues with casing this piece... 1. I need to remove the toe piece that's hanging over the rest of the piece or I will NEVER get the mold out. 2. Since I don't want to waste resin (or make the darn thing too heavy) I need to open up that heel section and create a grid support structure that will not require a solid resin pour, but will still be strong enough to hold Mikey's weight.
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So, after cutting off the toe over-hand, I opened up the heel and created a 3mm ledge with vertical support rim so I have an easy attachment point for the top foam section.
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Remember to use a mask and gloves when playing with fiberglass resin, kids!
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And after hitting the outside, I used a great tip from STEALTH's tutorials and used spray adhesive to glue in my fiber cloth before painting it with the resin!
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Apply resin, dry, dremel off rough edges and pack the recessed areas with some modeling clay (which will help with the casting)...
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Tonight I also applied the first layer of bondo to the sole... damn, it always makes it look like crap when you do that.
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close-up of the heel...
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So, we'll let that dry, sand a bunch tomorrow night and then see where we're at. I've already created the grid work for inside the heel, so once the outside is close enough to smooth (it IS the very bottom thing on the suit after all), then I'll put that into the heel and take it over to do the casting/pouring.

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Another thing I'm working on for the suit....

Well, I was going to use fabric paint on the under-armor, but I wanted something 'smoother' for larger areas (like the abs). So, I picked up some red satin material that matches the Dark Metallic Cherry red I've used on the suit. I cut a strip of it off and used some spray adhesive to glue it to an a beat-up old pair of cycling pants I had.

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It worked great and the satin has a nice 'shine' to it that should make it look close to the auto paint sections of armor I've built. The one I thing I need to do now is find a spray adhesive that dries CLEAR and not white!

So, in between all the boot work I also measured and cut out pattern pieces of fabric that I will used to make the satin pieces for Mikey's abs.

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And, finally, I also have been slowly working on building both the Left and Right leg units out of foam.

I've started with the lower leg pieces and (since I only have this one paper pep reference piece, I'm doing these in very small sections at a time so I don't get lost.

Here's the lower leg section marked up before I cut it up for use as a foam template...
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And here's the progress so far in re-constructing this in foam...
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That's it folks... I'm heading to bed. :):thumbsup
 
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