Interesting article on new xbox
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Lord Boron
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I have no problems with options, so long as I dont have to pay for options I don't want. Kinect is an an option I don't want, but would have to pay for.
Touche'!
I think many forget though on the flip side that PS4 is also a multi-talented system that is capable of a bunch of different things, BUT they don't appear to be advertising it as such.
I think what's great about the XB1 is the options. You don't have to use them, but they are great additions. I don't think we've seen the full potential of the Kinect yet. It's a great way to play some of the games out there and I'll bet they're working on fully integrated Kinect/controller games where you use both as part of the game experience. What's great about having it all to begin with is you won't get nickel and dimed for that technology later when that next great game comes around.
I admit, I do not use my 360 Kinect for most applications, but i'm glad it's there because there are some fun and engaging games that are worth having it for. With the XB1 Kinect being even more advanced i'm looking forward to seeing what software they're going to be developing for it.
There's also teh fact that i'm fat and lazy so the kinnect would just register a blob lol. heck my wii is up on a shelf at the moment. Speaking of a system that didn't deliver how about that droid based Ouya. I'mma get one as it's only 99.00 but it had so many launch issues you can find them used for 70.00 or less already.
I feel bad for anyone using the kinect to spy on me. "What's that blob in the room?" "That's no blob, that's his ass." lol
cboath
Master Member
The issue there is how do you know if you'd like the other stuff or not until you try it?
Or put another way - The game console aspect of the machine takes 100% of the resources - or at least it can. Why is it so evil to allow around 10% of the machine to do other stuff when in it's not in game mode?
Why is it wrong that it can act like a DVDR?
You'er not paying extra for the DVDR bit - you're paying extra for the kinect bit. If you don't want to use anything beyond the console, don't, but don't spin it as they put extra hardware in there to do it - they didn't, they're using the existing hardware. Just so happens the existing hardware is an x86/64 bit computer. Why not leverage that ability if you can?
Do you think that if Sony had an already compatible OS that allowed them to do the same things they wouldn't?
infymys
Sr Member
It's all about choice. Because I rather have the choice of whether I want it or not. In this day and age, those that can afford these machines most likely have everything that Microsoft is touting about the XB1 minus the video games part. If the XB1 doesn't need the Kinect to function, why should I have to buy it bundled with the console? Just because with it, it provides all those extra functions doesn't mean I want or necessarily need said extra functions. Maybe down the road, if there's a game or application that's a must have or I want something different to do what all my other electronics do, I have a choice to buy a peripheral to add on to it if there was such an option. As of now, there isn't and that's why I choose not to purchase an XB1 and probably won't until I'm able to get one without the Kinect if such a possibility will ever exist in the future.
As for Sony, whether they would do the same or not is moot in my opinion. They have a product that caters to what I want and it's what I choose to purchase when it comes to next gen consoles. If perhaps, down the road, they introduce a peripheral that does what the XB1 regarding an all-in-one media machine, I have the freedom to choose whether or not to get it.
Jedi2016
Sr Member
The problem with selling a box with a lot of "features" built into it, thus making it a "value" at $500, is that we already have other machines that do all the same stuff. Aside from games, is there really anything at all that the Xbox can do that my current hardware can't? No, there isn't. Suddenly, that "value" isn't quite so valuable.
And actually, CB, you are paying more for DVR... it requires an Xbox Gold membership. That's one thing they've been downplaying quite a bit, always pushing it to the back in interviews or sweeping it under the rug, is that in order to actually do much of anything that they advertise the system can do, requires a monthly subscription fee. Even things like Netflix are behind the paywall. I've got three other devices downstairs that have Netflix built into them, six if you count my PC, phone, and tablet, and not a single one of them charges me extra for the "privilege" of watching Netflix.
I'm sorry, but there is no defending that.. nothing that even the most die-hard Xbox fanboy can say will justify having to pay a monthly subscription fee to Microsoft to watch stuff that I'm already paying Netflix for.
And actually, CB, you are paying more for DVR... it requires an Xbox Gold membership. That's one thing they've been downplaying quite a bit, always pushing it to the back in interviews or sweeping it under the rug, is that in order to actually do much of anything that they advertise the system can do, requires a monthly subscription fee. Even things like Netflix are behind the paywall. I've got three other devices downstairs that have Netflix built into them, six if you count my PC, phone, and tablet, and not a single one of them charges me extra for the "privilege" of watching Netflix.
I'm sorry, but there is no defending that.. nothing that even the most die-hard Xbox fanboy can say will justify having to pay a monthly subscription fee to Microsoft to watch stuff that I'm already paying Netflix for.
cboath
Master Member
So be it. And having to pay to use your own netflix account is pretty stupid and I can't think of a defensible reason for that.
Still, at the end of the day - you're arguing over a 400 dollar luxury item you don't need vs a 500 dollar luxury item you don't need...not much of anything to argue really. I could see people being as passionate if it was a vital piece of everyday equipment, but it's far from it.
You make it sound like a bad thing. A lot of tv's already do a lot of what Xbox THREE does, without needing aditional hardware. A gaming machine should focus on just that, gaming.
and what's wrong with that?? Having a phone you can actually rely on, that doesn't constantly die because of no battery life.
Been there done that. Rainbow Six: Vegas does that using the 360 webcam.. it's not all that revolutionary, not really.
Sort of. My dvdr already does that, not to mention my tv can record directly to memory sticks/harddrives
Scareb
Sr Member
New Dead Rising 3 trailer. If the item at the end of the trailer is in it, I'm gonna **** so much **** up.
The Best Dead Rising 3 Trailer Ever - IGN Video
The Best Dead Rising 3 Trailer Ever - IGN Video
Paul Andrew
Master Member
Technically, yes I guess it did. But it did it like ****. As in badly.
that trailer was badass. DR3 is the launch game I'm looking forward to most.
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Lord Boron
Sr Member
MS really needs to stop making definitive statements since they keep reversing themselves.
And it will cost them customers who have no use for it. They need to face it, it was basically a flop for nearly every game it was part of in xbox 360. I actually have seen them at fleamarkets for sale.
cboath
Master Member
I'd wager the number of people who don't buy the xbox1 solely because they can't get it without the kinect piece is an extremely low to negligible number.
If you can afford a 400 luxury item, you can afford a 500 luxury item in all likelihood.
Here's a question - what if the xbox happens to be a much better system? With or without kinect?
If you can afford a 400 luxury item, you can afford a 500 luxury item in all likelihood.
Here's a question - what if the xbox happens to be a much better system? With or without kinect?
Scareb
Sr Member
People harp on the kinect because of what was done on the 360 but to be honest, they're talking out of their ass when it comes to it failing on the Xbox One. For all we know there could be some really crazy uses for it in future games.
I'm buying my Xbox one and the chances are very high that I'll never use the kinect but whatever, at least I have it. Then if some cool **** comes out, then I don't have to go and buy one.
I'm buying my Xbox one and the chances are very high that I'll never use the kinect but whatever, at least I have it. Then if some cool **** comes out, then I don't have to go and buy one.
Then i'll buy it in 4 years when the bugs are out of it along with a ps4. i need to get a wiiu before they stop making the things.
I bought my Xbox one years and years ago. My main reason of buying that console was Halo CE.
Time for Micro$ux to change the stupid name
Time for Micro$ux to change the stupid name
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