Interesting article on new xbox
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Paul Andrew
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There isn't a smiley for how hard I'm rolling my eyes.
Jedi2016
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Just so you know, PA, it's not your solemn duty to defend Microsoft in this thread. You can counter all you like, but don't expect to change anyone's mind.. those of us who have already decided not to buy one aren't going to suddenly change our minds.
And yes, it IS a stupid name. Ever since the 360 launched, whenever someone was referring to the original Xbox, they called it "Xbox 1" to differentiate it (because no one calls their Xbox360 an Xbox360.. it's just "Xbox"). Just because Microsoft spells this one "One" instead of "1" doesn't make it any less silly. Even their own search engine couldn't tell them apart, they probably had to reprogram Bing to be specifically call out the new system based on the "one" text.
And yes, it IS a stupid name. Ever since the 360 launched, whenever someone was referring to the original Xbox, they called it "Xbox 1" to differentiate it (because no one calls their Xbox360 an Xbox360.. it's just "Xbox"). Just because Microsoft spells this one "One" instead of "1" doesn't make it any less silly. Even their own search engine couldn't tell them apart, they probably had to reprogram Bing to be specifically call out the new system based on the "one" text.
Paul Andrew
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I'm not defending the name - it's certainly not one I'd have gone with - more like taking the **** out of the implication that since they've backpedaled on so much of their initial plans they should just change the name at the 11th hour as well. Should have been clearer about my snark 
Jedi2016
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I agree there. I just think they should have named it something else from the start. They're in the awkward position of being a version behind compared to Playstation. That's why they didn't name it "Xbox 2", because it would have looked shoddy next to the Playstation 3. Same thing here with Xbox 3 next to Playstation 4. Before the announcement, my money was on Xbox Infinity, which still fits in with their "it does everything" idea.
These names seem to be 'in' at the moment. Htc one. The new ipad. Its all one or no number at all. As though its best and no need to be a sequel etc. Kinda screws them up for the next one though. Xbox one.... mark 2? The new...... new ipad?
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Or borrowed one from Nintendo - Xbox Revolution. As stupid as it sounds: "Xbox Carrot", it is sadly still better than "Xbox One"
Well Microsoft sure seems to want to be Apple lately, which given how stagnant Apple is when it comes to innovations at this point in time seems like a bad idea. I never figured they'd change the name of the system but i would like to have seen the other choices. I bet they listened to a focus group of hipsters.
They should have used all the catchy phrases with it. It could be the iTurbo Titanium Xbox!
Jedi2016
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You know, that makes me wonder if you can program custom commands into the thing. Such as "drop dead" (or something less publicly suitable) could be a command to power down.
A talented programmer, definitely
Not without an exploit. Or MS allowing it. Regardless of how talented
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They managed to reprogram the Kinect and use it for PC's.... "if there's a will there's a way"
They managed to reprogram the Kinect and use it for PC's.... "if there's a will there's a way"
Using an exploit yes. That doesnt enable the kinect to change its behaviour with the xbox. Pcs can run unsigned code if the administrator account allows. Its not just like clicking accept with an xbox. You will notice that the kinect was reprogrammed to work with a pc. But no one changed its behaviour with the xbox. Thats because theyre completley different things. Why do you think no one did it? Not just a case of being a talented programmer. I assure you.
Even if found. Unsigned software running on the xbox is frowned upon by ms. As it paves the way for running backup games. And I would think would lead to bans. Im not saying it isnt possible. But definitley not just being a talented programmer no way.
Side note...
I think since jtagging that no ones run unsigned code on the xbox itself. Just altered dvd drive firmware. Which wouldnt help the kinect communicating with the xbox. So I doubt it will happen unless ms want it to.
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Solo4114
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That, I think, is what they're counting on. I suspect a big part of why the Kinect didn't take off was that there wasn't enough of a userbase to warrant the development of GOOD games that'd take advantage of it. Instead you got these sort of gimmicky boring games or Wii clones. If the userbase isn't there, people won't develop for the peripheral itself. It's the same reason why there are only, like, 3-4 games that are actually designed to work with the Ace Edge HOTAS setup (and two of them are Ace Combat games anyway). Why spend development dollars on a peripheral that only a small percentage of the market has?
My sense is that MS really believes in the potential of Kinect, but recognizes that the potential won't be realized unless the userbase expands in a big way. Thus, the insistence upon including it. I think they believe that, if everyone has one, and developers make games and other programs that take advantage of it, that people will come to actually like it. But as long as it's just a neat little gimmick and a chance for people to pretend they're Jean Luc Picard ("Xbox! Engage!"), that's all it'll ever be.
As for the name, I still think "One" was a mistake, and it should've been something like "Home" or "Center" or whatever, but in the end, it'll be the product itself that'll make the biggest difference.
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