Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
Yes, that's one of the two images we've been referencing.
Yes, that's one of the two images we've been referencing.
Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is HFC (and now also a Maurshin) m712 airsoft pistol
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
That's my guess at this point. The short mag seems pretty hard to find, I imagine the prop builders either found a bunch of them, or just cut down the longer ones to fit flush. It still could be another model all together at this point though ... no telling until we see actual stills from the film.
That's my guess at this point. The short mag seems pretty hard to find, I imagine the prop builders either found a bunch of them, or just cut down the longer ones to fit flush. It still could be another model all together at this point though ... no telling until we see actual stills from the film.
markstammers
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
If you're not bothered about your replica being functional as an airsoft weapon then you can take the base plate off the long magazine and simply attach it over the magazine hole
If you're not bothered about your replica being functional as an airsoft weapon then you can take the base plate off the long magazine and simply attach it over the magazine hole
markstammers
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
There are two versions of the HFC. One is non-blowback and is cheaper and easier to find. The other uses the gas propellant to move the breech.
There are two versions of the HFC. One is non-blowback and is cheaper and easier to find. The other uses the gas propellant to move the breech.
WyoWilliam
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
There are a few other things I notice about this image:
It looks like the scope mount is based on the older Master Replicas version. The flash hider has an extra hole in it for some reason (One set screw should be enough, right?) and is clearly painted or anodized. (Also MR?) and, lastly the bull barrel is... flat on three sides!?
Which begs the question - why not just buy a MR off of ebay? Money wouldn't be a concern (Why would it be? We're talking about Disney money here.)
My guess is that it's a functional airsoft to give some sort of reaction for Ford when he pulls the trigger. (Not that he would have had that in ESB or ROTJ.) I suppose it would be lighter, too, especially if they also used resin parts.
Why else go the the trouble of building one?
(Of course I had the same question about the Anakin saber in Sith - just go out and get a freakin' Icons or MR. It would have actually looked like the saber Obi-Wan gave Luke in ANH. Of course, I'm picky that way.
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There are a few other things I notice about this image:
It looks like the scope mount is based on the older Master Replicas version. The flash hider has an extra hole in it for some reason (One set screw should be enough, right?) and is clearly painted or anodized. (Also MR?) and, lastly the bull barrel is... flat on three sides!?Which begs the question - why not just buy a MR off of ebay? Money wouldn't be a concern (Why would it be? We're talking about Disney money here.)
My guess is that it's a functional airsoft to give some sort of reaction for Ford when he pulls the trigger. (Not that he would have had that in ESB or ROTJ.) I suppose it would be lighter, too, especially if they also used resin parts.
Why else go the the trouble of building one?
(Of course I had the same question about the Anakin saber in Sith - just go out and get a freakin' Icons or MR. It would have actually looked like the saber Obi-Wan gave Luke in ANH. Of course, I'm picky that way.
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newmagrathea
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
I read that the non gas airsoft mausers are not full scale, they are a little bit smaller 3:4 scale. Evike doesn't seem to carry the blowback version of the HFC, but I've found several on the bay and they are slightly more expensive.
It probably wouldn't be important for the clip to have anything inside (gas chamber or pellets) if it's non-blowback.
My thoughts about adding an led light inside the barrel are more about giving the effects group to have something visual to sync adding blaster bolts to.
I read that the non gas airsoft mausers are not full scale, they are a little bit smaller 3:4 scale. Evike doesn't seem to carry the blowback version of the HFC, but I've found several on the bay and they are slightly more expensive.
It probably wouldn't be important for the clip to have anything inside (gas chamber or pellets) if it's non-blowback.
My thoughts about adding an led light inside the barrel are more about giving the effects group to have something visual to sync adding blaster bolts to.
Noeland
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
That's the spring airsoft guns that are 3:4 scale. Some of them are metal.
To my knowledge all gas operated, blowback or otherwise, are full size.
I haven't seen the blowback HFC on any site. Is that the one they call the "box cannon"?
That's the spring airsoft guns that are 3:4 scale. Some of them are metal.
To my knowledge all gas operated, blowback or otherwise, are full size.
I haven't seen the blowback HFC on any site. Is that the one they call the "box cannon"?
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
This KWC is described as the only fullmetal blowback.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwo...tols_KWC_KWC_MAUSER_M712_6MM_W_FULL_MATEL.htm
This KWC is described as the only fullmetal blowback.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwo...tols_KWC_KWC_MAUSER_M712_6MM_W_FULL_MATEL.htm
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
I'm seeing the HFC listed as GBB also. The Redwolf site says it's the only metal GBB "which ALSO shoots semi and full auto" so presumably it's the full auto part, rather than the metal GBB part, that is unique to the KWC
I'm seeing the HFC listed as GBB also. The Redwolf site says it's the only metal GBB "which ALSO shoots semi and full auto" so presumably it's the full auto part, rather than the metal GBB part, that is unique to the KWC
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
I noticed this too and have been trying to track down some MR blaster parts with no joy.
It looks like they either copied the scope mount from a LE, or just took it off of one of the MR blasters
Dan
There are a few other things I notice about this image: View attachment 551260 It looks like the scope mount is based on the older Master Replicas version. The flash hider has an extra hole in it for some reason (One set screw should be enough, right?) and is clearly painted or anodized. (Also MR?) and, lastly the bull barrel is... flat on three sides!?
Which begs the question - why not just buy a MR off of ebay? Money wouldn't be a concern (Why would it be? We're talking about Disney money here.)
My guess is that it's a functional airsoft to give some sort of reaction for Ford when he pulls the trigger. (Not that he would have had that in ESB or ROTJ.) I suppose it would be lighter, too, especially if they also used resin parts.
Why else go the the trouble of building one?
(Of course I had the same question about the Anakin saber in Sith - just go out and get a freakin' Icons or MR. It would have actually looked like the saber Obi-Wan gave Luke in ANH. Of course, I'm picky that way.
I noticed this too and have been trying to track down some MR blaster parts with no joy.
It looks like they either copied the scope mount from a LE, or just took it off of one of the MR blasters
Dan
markstammers
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
Even with Disney money paying the kind of money the MR versions go for would be very expensive, especially as the prop master would have to make sure they had around three or four props in case of damage or loss. Plus dummy rubber versions that would be used in non-shooting scenes and when in the holster.
There are a few other things I notice about this image: View attachment 551260 It looks like the scope mount is based on the older Master Replicas version. The flash hider has an extra hole in it for some reason (One set screw should be enough, right?) and is clearly painted or anodized. (Also MR?) and, lastly the bull barrel is... flat on three sides!?
Which begs the question - why not just buy a MR off of ebay? Money wouldn't be a concern (Why would it be? We're talking about Disney money here.)
My guess is that it's a functional airsoft to give some sort of reaction for Ford when he pulls the trigger. (Not that he would have had that in ESB or ROTJ.) I suppose it would be lighter, too, especially if they also used resin parts.
Why else go the the trouble of building one?
(Of course I had the same question about the Anakin saber in Sith - just go out and get a freakin' Icons or MR. It would have actually looked like the saber Obi-Wan gave Luke in ANH. Of course, I'm picky that way.
Even with Disney money paying the kind of money the MR versions go for would be very expensive, especially as the prop master would have to make sure they had around three or four props in case of damage or loss. Plus dummy rubber versions that would be used in non-shooting scenes and when in the holster.
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
Yeah ... it all seems so strange. Even the way Han is holding that blaster ... blatantly revealing the hole in the bottom ... it's almost like they're taunting us!! Why not just go with an MGC? Denix even? Surely they would be able to track enough of them down. Then again, I do have mixed feelings about it ... I mean as someone who is still hoping to get my hands on an MGC one day ... look at what the TFA saber reveal in the first teaser did to the price of a Graflex. Maybe we should be thankful that they are giving the M712 a turn? These airsofts are in fact much easier to come by for the average prop enthusiast (at least for now). I think that I'm actually OK with the fact that they are using an M712, I just feel that if they want to imply that this is the same blaster from ANH (which it seems that they do), then they should have stuck with the C96. I'll say it again though, maybe this isn't the Hero blaster.
Yeah ... it all seems so strange. Even the way Han is holding that blaster ... blatantly revealing the hole in the bottom ... it's almost like they're taunting us!! Why not just go with an MGC? Denix even? Surely they would be able to track enough of them down. Then again, I do have mixed feelings about it ... I mean as someone who is still hoping to get my hands on an MGC one day ... look at what the TFA saber reveal in the first teaser did to the price of a Graflex. Maybe we should be thankful that they are giving the M712 a turn? These airsofts are in fact much easier to come by for the average prop enthusiast (at least for now). I think that I'm actually OK with the fact that they are using an M712, I just feel that if they want to imply that this is the same blaster from ANH (which it seems that they do), then they should have stuck with the C96. I'll say it again though, maybe this isn't the Hero blaster.
markstammers
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
There are some airsoft versions that are 3:4 scale. They usually sell for around £15 (sorry no idea what the excact US pricing would be - probably around $20). I found this out when I was hunting round for a base gun for my DL-44 replica. Just to be really annoying they claim to be 1:1 scale on the advertising.
For the proper full size version you will pay around £80-£110 ($100-$130). In the UK they are more of these airsoft versions available than Denix or other base guns. They are usually supplied in blue or orange to get around the UKs strict gun replica laws.
There are some airsoft versions that are 3:4 scale. They usually sell for around £15 (sorry no idea what the excact US pricing would be - probably around $20). I found this out when I was hunting round for a base gun for my DL-44 replica. Just to be really annoying they claim to be 1:1 scale on the advertising.
For the proper full size version you will pay around £80-£110 ($100-$130). In the UK they are more of these airsoft versions available than Denix or other base guns. They are usually supplied in blue or orange to get around the UKs strict gun replica laws.
kamakazykid
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Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
If you don't mind the gun possibly not working then modifying the magazine is pretty simple. looking at the pics I believe that the two set screws secure to the outer barrel of the airsoft gun since the flash hider is more that likely 3D printed and hollow. I'm assuming all the exterior parts are more than likely 3D prints instead of actual metal parts because that would reduce cost and time to make multiple guns.
If you don't mind the gun possibly not working then modifying the magazine is pretty simple. looking at the pics I believe that the two set screws secure to the outer barrel of the airsoft gun since the flash hider is more that likely 3D printed and hollow. I'm assuming all the exterior parts are more than likely 3D prints instead of actual metal parts because that would reduce cost and time to make multiple guns.
H0llyw00d
Sr Member
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
If Lucas was still at the helm I'd say the differences with ANH would be for merchandising opportunities and to exclude the ex-wife. Maybe Disney took a page from his book... No way they'd use anything but the Hero on a poster like that.
If Lucas was still at the helm I'd say the differences with ANH would be for merchandising opportunities and to exclude the ex-wife. Maybe Disney took a page from his book... No way they'd use anything but the Hero on a poster like that.
newmagrathea
Sr Member
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
Something tells me that they are not worried about the cost, this is Disney/Lucasfilm we're talking about. They also pay for an entire team of people to build weapons. My bet is that the parts are metal and made on lathes and cnc machines.
Something tells me that they are not worried about the cost, this is Disney/Lucasfilm we're talking about. They also pay for an entire team of people to build weapons. My bet is that the parts are metal and made on lathes and cnc machines.
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
I can't help thinking that the blaster is Photoshopped onto a pic of Harrison Ford.
Or maybe I just don't want to believe that they didn't make it identical to the ANH prop.
I can't help thinking that the blaster is Photoshopped onto a pic of Harrison Ford.
Or maybe I just don't want to believe that they didn't make it identical to the ANH prop.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Re: Han Solo Force Awakens Blaster is not a c96
People need to stop saying this. It's ridiculous. Yes, they will merchandise the hell out of these movies but they don't have to force it in pre-production to do so. Anything that comes out of the movie is marketable no matter what it looks like. :facepalm
Why would Han have a blaster that was identical 40 years later especially since he had different blasters since then?
People need to stop saying this. It's ridiculous. Yes, they will merchandise the hell out of these movies but they don't have to force it in pre-production to do so. Anything that comes out of the movie is marketable no matter what it looks like. :facepalm
Why would Han have a blaster that was identical 40 years later especially since he had different blasters since then?
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