First Order Snowtrooper....who wants to get started on this?

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  1. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Being an uber Snowtrooper fan, I can't resist the urge of getting this costume put together. I've made albums of all the available photos I could get!

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    Album -FULL BODY- C7 2015

    Album - HELMET- C7 2015

    Album - TORSO- C7 2015

    Album - BACKPACK- C7 2015

    Album - ARMS- C7 2015

    Album - LEGS/BOOTS- C7 2015

    Now I already started researching the boots as those appear to be the only "found" item on the suit...which leads me to believe that the Kamik Canuck Snow boots are what they used...and sure enough, the white ones being next to impossible to find.

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    What I may do is buy a pair of the black ones and paint it white using plasti-dip

    Something else I noticed concerning the side-straps

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    Lower Legs have material added to make the boot "taller" or cover pre-existing boot extension

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    I'm curious to see who will be up for crafting the components though...I'd definitely want to see the helmet made for sure!
     
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  2. Blue Leader

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    My question is... How the hell do you see out of that helmet? That visor is tiny. It looks like you'd be pretty much blind in that helmet. o_O
     
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  3. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Funny, I brought this up on facebook earlier

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_snow_goggles

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  4. mikemakesmovies

    mikemakesmovies New Member

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    If my memory serve me correct the original stormtrooper boots are black or another color but painted with white leather paint. Maybe the boots are painted over? Or I could be wrong and they were just specially made for the movie.
     
  5. Psicorp7

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    Yeah, just like snow goggles, you look though a small slit to prevent snow blindness (which really sucks!). Plus it would have WAY more visibility than my Iron Man helmet!
     
  6. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    It's not that much more difficult to see out of than wearing a mando/Fett helmet....just don't have that center-vertical portion and it's essentially the same as what we've got here with the new snowtooper.
     
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  8. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Already went through that site, it comes up empty
     
  9. KaanE

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  10. TK2152

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    Really looking at the boot in the closeup picture on the mannequin,it kinda looks like they did paint them white, which adds to the weathering look, but just an opinion.
     
  11. torsoboy

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    I imagine the best way to see out of it, while not wearing the helmet disproportionately low on your head, would be to rig it with some kind of camera/goggle system. They've been around for a while, but have recently taken off in the drone racing crowd. You'd lose depth perception, of course, but seeing out of a trooper helmet has never quite been too easy anyhow. After a quick google search, I came up with these:

    http://www.getfpv.com/fatshark-pred...gle_shopping&gclid=CKeyzsuJiMUCFVIV7AodQyIAbQ

    You might have to get inventive and either remove the plastic housing, or redesign the headset entirely to get a slimmer form factor when worn under the helmet. I also don't know if there's be any antenna issues being that close, but eletronics-savvy people might just hardwire it in anyways.
     
  12. Riceball

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    I don't think that you'd need to get all that sophisticated to see out of it, from the looks of the eye slits are pretty much in line with your eyes so the simplest solution would be to put some sort of mask, for lack of a better word, that goes around the slits on the inside and sits around the eyes so that it focuses your eyes on the slits more than the space around the inside of the helmet. It's not perfect but I think that it would help with the limited field of view and would be a lot easier than trying to rig some sort of electronics which I think wouldn't improve your view all that much anyhow.
     
  13. torsoboy

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    That would likely work for a lot of people, no doubt. However, speaking from experience wearing Stormtrooper, Clonetrooper, and Boba Fett helmets, they aren't always the easiest to see out of since you're not always looking out of what you think you'd be looking out of, and those helmets have more physical visor area. Taking away any vertical "cheats" (such as in the case of Fett or Clones), shorter people, or folks with shorter necks might find it challenging to see out of without the helmet resting on your shoulders (going back to my "wearing the helmet disproportionately low" remark). The camera idea is just a possible solution, but we won't know anything about vision in these bad boys until we get to wear them, of course.
     
  14. wasili

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    Love the new Snowtrooper.

    Having some fun in Rhino3d tonite. Need to finetune the fillets on the mic tips, but it's a start. Will move on to sculpting the helmet, which will be a nice challenge.

    Cheers,
    Wasili

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  16. jedichase

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    I got to check out the costume at Celebration and instantly fell in love with it. A friend of mine got a ton of reference pics of it. I'll try to get him to post them here.

    I like the fact that the helmet is the same as the flamethrower helmet just modified with a face piece and dome covering it. We also noticed that you can peek behind the chest piece and see a black buckle/strap probably a shoulder strap for the backpack. The backpack had some minor chips and it appears to be made of fiberglass. Black band on helmet and shoulders were obviously decals. Looks like it won't be too difficult to make, the fabric pieces will take some time to make an accurate pattern.
     
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  17. cayman shen

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    It's invisible (white on white) but click to the right of the black color option and the white color option appears.
     
  18. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Good to hear! I've posted a lot of reference pics already. I've got more curtousey of members that were there that I haven't yet posted

    If you got good pics (or were even able to) of that angle to show the strap under the chest piece, that'd help alot!. The backpack being fiberglass? It's certainly possible, but sounds heavy

    As for the fabric, my friend and my XO for the Blizzard Force found a neoprene material ALREADY with the polyester/jersey-style fabric on the inside, which looks remarkably identical to the material on the suit, and it's not that expensive at about $12 a yard. The hardest thing being, developing accurate patterns and getting someone who can sew the gloves. We feel that the Matrix-style duster pattern that's common can be used as a BASE pattern, of course, adding the extra details. Another thing to note, is a split on the rear-center of the "kama" portion of the duster which is not on the original snowtrooper.

    The boots, I just bought a pair of the size 14s in black and I'll just paint them but I'm glad to have ID'd them!

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    I'll certainly be following any future progress!!! Join the Blizzard Force forums..we'll definitely give you a warm welcome!!
     
  19. eifion

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    Unlike the TKs I love this helmet design, very cool looking! Overall this costume looks more reminiscent of OT era.
     
  20. deserthunter

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    Nailed some white boots on Ebay for $60. Working on the fabric, only two places that I found are sold out and goes for $19-$24 dolloars a yard.
     
  21. Mikki Haight

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    You want a pepakura friendly model of that helmet, or a 3D printer model? Those complex curves around the (air filters?) look pretty hard to pep but I could get close.
     
  22. Gilmortar

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    deserthunter are you looking for similar tackle twill used for the Fett vest in white?
     
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  23. deserthunter

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    The fabric is polyester jersey backed neoprene. That is why there is a sheen to it. Got plenty of twill
     
  24. Gilmortar

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    thats what tackle twill is... except the typical is polypropelene. If it were Neoprene backed, this would be pretty darn heavy and I don't think the sleeves would have weight buckling like they do in the photos.

    Do you have insider information on the material?
     
  25. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This is strictly what the plaquered from the C7 display stated. We found something similar actually, which is neoprene, but the backing does resemble closely to the suit material.

    Now if this is also taclke-twill, that'd lead us somewhere.
     
  26. Gilmortar

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    how thick is the neoprene you found, for the backer?

    It would seem overtly heavy for a duster like that, and EXTREMELY hot.

    I didn't get to see the display at SWCA, the lines were just too long by the time we found out about the display. So while yes, the placard says it was neoprene backed, I'm not entirely sure thats what the entire duster is made out of. But I would definitely like to see the material that you found.
     
  27. knightshade

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    I thought that some others might be interested in a reply that I got from Kamik:

    So that would imply that the design had once been available in white in larger sizes as well...
    Tracking them down - that is a different matter all together.

    That said - perhaps if there was enough demand, they would reconsider.
     
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  28. Gilmortar

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    Yeah, unfortunately thats been attempted here. Companies won't bring back a shoe line (especially those in the designer industry) unless LOTS of money is to be made off of it.

    You would be less pressed to find a local cobbler and have them sew you on some of the white fabric to the soles.
     
  29. deserthunter

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    You could get away with 0.5mm neoprene whish is relatively thin. I made my alien costume with a 1mm wetsuit with about 23 latex parts glued to it and coated with plastidip. That was hot. 0.5mm is used in snorkeling suits so I don't think it would be that bad. Locating 0.5mm neoprene is the easy part. I have two samples of polyester jersey coming. I will post pictures to see which is closest to the texture pictured.
     
  30. Justicethebeast

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    I'm definitely buying a couple pairs of these boots... In a couple of years they are going to be impossible to find like the Kenneth Cole reaction boots for jango fett.
     
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  31. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Yea the sad thing is that despite my large size 15-16 foot size, I was able to acquire a size 16 pair of Kenneth Coles. Granted, they weren't the "pit crew" style, but they're the exact same sole, but made into a leather dress-shoe style.

    Speaking of boots..


    I got this in just the other day. Got them brand new in size 14, and they actually fit w/ the liner. Myself and my friend are working on this suit and we're going to be experimenting, though, I dropped $100 on these as I couldn't find size 14 elsewhere so far. We're going to look at some rubber adhesive paints. I'm thinking something along the lines of a dye that can actually stain the rubber. The nylon portion I was told can be dyed, but the boot-sleeves would cover this up anyways.

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    As I told anyone else interested AT ALL, get the boots while you can....
     
  32. tubachris85x

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    Got the white versions in this week. These are actually size 12's but they still fit alright even with the liner

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    To add, I did another comparison for further verification of the accuracy of the Kamiks to the boots on display with the costume

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    I seriously don't feel these boots were custom made for the movie..
     
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  33. wasili

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    Hey guys,

    Got my Kamiks in today. Working on modelling the backpack.

    And started machining bits and pieces. First off is the helmet mic tip, for lack of a better name.

    Start of machining \/
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    Nearly done \/
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    All pieces machined, the white ones (machined from styrene) still need assembling onto the larger part. \/
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    Sprayed in primer. I will finish this on my lathe, and add the groove on the side. After that the white bits. \/
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    Up next is the first part for the backpack....

    Thanx for looking.

    Cheers,
    Wasili
     
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  34. deserthunter

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    Anyone have better pictures of the legs or know if the quilting on the pants meets on the side or comes to a V in the front? Getting ready to start sewing. Thanks
     
  35. thorssoli

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    This seems like as good a place as any to post some work in progress:
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  36. deserthunter

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    Nice work so far. You going to do a run?
     
  37. Hand-Schaub

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    Thanks for starting this thread. As a huge snowtrooper fan I'll be watching this one. This is the only new costume I considered making in a very long time. Nice work all around - in research and in production
     
  38. thorssoli

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    I started a JY thread, but there doesn't seem to be any interest.
     
  39. deserthunter

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    I am interested. I think because the post dropped back so quick. I did not even see it until now. Bumped it back up for you.
     
  40. deserthunter

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    You should try posting on the blizzard force. I bet there would be a lot of interest there.
     
  41. zeroginc

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    cant wait!...that coat and backpack though....
     
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  43. thorssoli

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    Not just yet. Had a couple of short-notice projects come into the workshop all of a sudden. Looks like it'll be a couple weeks before I get back to work on this.
     
  44. DaveF45122

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    Any one got updates? I ordered my boots last night. As I was going over the material with the ridges down the sleeve and duster what is that sewing stich called?

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
     
  45. zeroginc

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    looks to be the same as the ESB snowspeeder jackets stitching but dont know the name. pleats? TFA xwing jumpsuit has the same stitching as well
     
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  47. DaveF45122

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    Did you get your boots yet for the First Order Snowtrooper?

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 4
     
  48. BobasDent1138

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    I hope this isnt digging up an old thread, but just wanted to throw it out there that I just bought a pair of those Women's Kamiks. Yep, thats right. Desperate times, desperate measures. Couldnt find a men's pair anywhere, so I bit the bullet and ordered a size 12 womens. It'll be snug. VERY snug. But I'll update you all once they come in. For $60 I figured it'd be worth a shot, especially since they can be returned.
    UPDATE: After reading plenty of other SCAM reviews, I decided to get a refund and report the site if not refunded. What a doofus move on my part..
     
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  49. Dokworm

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    I'm really loving the look of the Snowtrooper, I don't think I will be able to resist making a costume. Is anyone doing a helmet run? I might work on a 3D printable version if not.
     
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  50. BobasDent1138

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    Talk to Animefan. He's got a BEAUTIFUL run of them!

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