First official image of Obi-Wan from D+ (props/costumes discussion only)

[AgentOfShield]

It might be just my eyes messing with me but the do the booster ridges look narrower on the Disney+ saber compared to those on the ROTS saber? May just be the weathering causing this effect

 

[coolhanluked]

I know almost nothing about lightsabres, and to be honest care even less - but my understanding was that Disney did not, in fact, have access to Lucasfilm's props, only the IP. Certainly the reason put forward as to why all the astrodroids in the Disney movies are new builds (and for background droids, frequently rented from Astromech Club builders) is that Disney couldn't have the old R2-D2 props.

That story could be wrong, of course, or I could be mis-remembering, or it could be that Disney can go look at all the old props and drawing and so forth but isn't allowed to actually film the old props. But yeah, my understanding is that Disney doesn't actually have all the old LFL props and thus has to build new ones.

Anyone with further info on this subject, I'd love to hear it!

Thanks for the reply. I do remember something along those lines. Thats a reason why i think Disney bought lucas films for the merchandising. And further reinforces why we build everything in house. But i do know for a fact they have full access to the archives so we can build everything with consistency to what lucas did. We have built a lot of stuff from the original blueprints. And i have seen some og stuff in the shop. So i still believe no matter what the deal was they can get what they want when they want it. They have all the money in the world. But i am really curious what the exact deal was now.

 

[Psab keel]

In some fan theories the green crystal from Qui-Gon's saber was used by Luke to build his ROTJ saber because it was among one of the components Luke found in the remains of Obi-Wan's hut. I always liked that idea.

 

[7-11 Jedi]

In some fan theories the green crystal from Qui-Gon's saber was used by Luke to build his ROTJ saber because it was among one of the components Luke found in the remains of Obi-Wan's hut. I always liked that idea.

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I always liked this theory. I wish they’d make it canon.

 

[SethS]

Thanks for the reply. I do remember something along those lines. Thats a reason why i think Disney bought lucas films for the merchandising. And further reinforces why we build everything in house. But i do know for a fact they have full access to the archives so we can build everything with consistency to what lucas did. We have built a lot of stuff from the original blueprints. And i have seen some og stuff in the shop. So i still believe no matter what the deal was they can get what they want when they want it. They have all the money in the world. But i am really curious what the exact deal was now.

I’m sure they have access to the archives, but it’s probably a question of timeliness. Is the prop they need out on tour? Does it need restoration? Does it meet production needs? Even getting something to scan might take longer than just getting source material and scratch-building. Getting source material like pics and drawings SHOULD be easy though-- but there's still the time to axccess that stuff if it's not been already scannedf for reference.

To be honest, one look at the lightsaber guide, or any of the RPF threads dedicated to certain props ,would be a faster resource than going from the prop team (likely a outside hire) through production, up to whatever department in Disney/Lucasfilm that handles relations with Lucas' assets, to somebody at the archives, then back down that same chain again, with all the NDAs and transfer paperwork that goes along with it.

 

[13doctorwho]

I agree with SethS, it's probably too much headache to get something out of the archives (something that might have been abused and reworked since filming)... especially when there is so much information out there and even licensed and unlicensed copies out there. They probably only make there own because they need a lot of them, and they need them for different things. I bet quite a few are rubber (and or resin) with chrome plating like in the Prequels.

 

[coolhanluked]

Well you guys are just proving my point even further. The sabers on these shows may look like fan made runs from guys on here but we actually made them. Its also hard to hunt down a saber from a run done years ago let alone a few. Its what i have been sayin for the last few years I've ben on these shows.

 

[janglesworthy]

It can't be that bad to get to the archives. Dice got access and did photogrammetry scans for their BF1 game and also had access to digital prequel asset's for BF2.

 

[Mr Mold Maker]

Well you guys are just proving my point even further. The sabers on these shows may look like fan made runs from guys on here but we actually made them. Its also hard to hunt down a saber from a run done years ago let alone a few. Its what i have been sayin for the last few years I've ben on these shows.

Have you ever clarified exactly what your role is in the production of these shows? I thought you said at one point you were there building sets?
Has that changed? Your posts come across as if you are in the shop building these props, is that the case now? At SAT? Just out of curiosity.

 

[JoeG]

It can't be that bad to get to the archives. Dice got access and did photogrammetry scans for their BF1 game and also had access to digital prequel asset's for BF2.

But it's not about access, it's about time. A video game production has a lot different time schedule than a TV show. They may not have the time it takes for the process as Seth described above.

 

[coolhanluked]

Have you ever clarified exactly what your role is in the production of these shows? I thought you said at one point you were there building sets?
Has that changed? Your posts come across as if you are in the shop building these props, is that the case now? At SAT? Just out of curiosity.

Yes i have. I build the sets. Im in and out of both the prop shop and set dec shop. I'm on every stage the mill and the backlot. I do standby while shooting. The list goes on. Im a gangboss and foremaned the gozanti. I get around on these shows. I really do get to see and touch almost everything. And I'm freinds with just about everyone in every department. Im not on here to brag about my place in the sw universe. I'm on here to learn from everyone and figure out how to build my personal props as accurate as possible. I just happen to be in a position of knowledge on some of these subjects and want to do my part to help out on here. If i wasn't under an NDA i would spit out everything i know.

 

[janglesworthy]

I'm guessing they had the time. They started the show, it was delayed, they restarted then it got delayed again right?

 

[JoeG]

I'm guessing they had the time. They started the show, it was delayed, they restarted then it got delayed again right?

You're talking about the principal shooting schedule. That's not the same as the schedule for designing and fabricating props. Again, read Seth's post above. He has a good idea about how these things would likely go.

 

[janglesworthy]

I understand, my father was a prop master when he first started in the business. I spent a lot of time going on research/buying trips with him and wandering the isles of props in his warehouses after school bored out my mind. It was very boring then except for the James Bond/Viet Nam section.

I do remember back in the day when ILM and LucasArts had legal issues sharing assets between each other up until the time they made The Force Unleashed. I get how backwards it can get other there. I guess I'm kinda of playing devils advocate alittle....but still...I can already see the behind the scenes footage where they go into the archives and pull out the saber....****...I'm doing it again...

 

[division 6]

Hate to interrupt your argument on sabers (not really) but since no one has posted it in this thread.

 

[janglesworthy]

Do you know how gangSTAR it would have been if they gave him a pompadour mullet. Look at him he's 95% there...

 

[coolhanluked]

Seth is not wrong. Typically thats how things roll. These shows are very different. They are a episodic tv show. With the schedule of a tv show. But have the budget of a feature and treated and shot like one. Im not sure if i can talk about the volume, but that changes everything. They are creating a whole new way of how things get done. And its confusing sometimes.

 

[CT1138]

Seth is not wrong. Typically thats how things roll. These shows are very different. They are a episodic tv show. With the schedule of a tv show. But have the budget of a feature and treated and shot like one. Im not sure if i can talk about the volume, but that changes everything. They are creating a whole new way of how things get done. And its confusing sometimes.

From the audience side, I've noticed that too. These shows (just going by the Marvel limited series) seem to narratively flow like a single 6-hour movie chopped up into six 1-hour episodes.

 

[Joek3rr]

It can't be that bad to get to the archives. Dice got access and did photogrammetry scans for their BF1 game and also had access to digital prequel asset's for BF2.

And yet they used the Master Replicas V2 for Luke lightsaber.....

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/VaNoX

 

[cwoodreplicas]

And yet they used the Master Replicas V2 for Luke lightsaber.....

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/VaNoX

But wouldn’t that be because the V2 is in the hands of a private collector. So they’d only have had production photos to work off.