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[czechplastik]

I’d say they’ve blasted past the UK goal now with hours to go. I’m guessing the timely update may have pushed some buyers over the edge. Nice to know the refit will be adorning homes both sides of the pond.

I think it'll pass 600 at this rate.

If this was some kind of experiment to test the water I reckon it shows there is real demand for these products. If they deliver we could be in line for some really cool ships over the next few years.

 

[RevelationSpace]

Some of those are bound to be scalpers, sadly.

 

[liberator]

Dame shame we cannot get this down under. 699 UK, is about $1400 AU plus post which wont be cheap, so maybe $2K ouch! If from the USA it would be around 1K plus post, still out of my price range, shame.

 

[czechplastik]

Dame shame we cannot get this down under. 699 UK, is about $1400 AU plus post which wont be cheap, so maybe $2K ouch! If from the USA it would be around 1K plus post, still out of my price range, shame.

That's painful indeed. It wouldn't surprise me if they expanded their regions at some point.

It looks like they have extended the UK sale for another 24hrs. Sitting at 125% now.

 

[rtheriaque]

Some of those are bound to be scalpers, sadly.

I don’t like this term for something that has unlimited supply. Scalpers purchase scarce items, preventing other collectors from obtaining them. Look at the new Nintendo Switch 2 as an example. A scalper can’t grab your copy of this. Are people purchasing them to flip and make a profit? Absolutely. But it’s not scalping, which is a problem for a lot of different hobbies.

 

[The7thSeal]

I don’t like this term for something that has unlimited supply. Scalpers purchase scarce items, preventing other collectors from obtaining them. Look at the new Nintendo Switch 2 as an example. A scalper can’t grab your copy of this. Are people purchasing them to flip and make a profit? Absolutely. But it’s not scalping, which is a problem for a lot of different hobbies.

But this refit is a limited supply albeit around 6000 pieces. In other hobbies there might be terms like ‘flippers’ too. In this case, I’d say it’s quite a risk buying to flip for a profit as the timeline was so long, the outlay quite large, the uncertainty of the economy and the number of units produced.

 

[rtheriaque]

But this refit is a limited supply albeit around 6000 pieces. In other hobbies there might be terms like ‘flippers’ too. In this case, I’d say it’s quite a risk buying to flip for a profit as the timeline was so long, the outlay quite large, the uncertainty of the economy and the number of units produced.

They didn’t cap the crowdfunding phase, did they? Anybody that wanted one could buy one- the supply was unlimited. Once the clock hit zero, the run size was known and we were around 6k. A scalper couldn’t hop in front of somebody that wanted it for their own collection and buy it with the intention of flipping.

 

[Ant1988]

They didn’t cap the crowdfunding phase, did they? Anybody that wanted one could buy one- the supply was unlimited. Once the clock hit zero, the run size was known and we were around 6k. A scalper couldn’t hop in front of somebody that wanted it for their own collection and buy it with the intention of flipping.

Exactly this. If people bought them to flip they were taking a chance because as you say Tomy was not selling a preset limited piece. This has over two times the production of the TOS. Regular scalpers normally swoop in on stuff they know is going to sell out quickly and then immediately put up on eBay. So most people that bought more than 1 it's probably to pay for theirs. I'm sure though there were a few resellers that probably bought like 10 to make some profit. But I doubt it will be as lucrative as the TOS.

 

[czechplastik]

Exactly this. If people bought them to flip they were taking a chance because as you say Tomy was not selling a preset limited piece. This has over two times the production of the TOS. Regular scalpers normally swoop in on stuff they know is going to sell out quickly and then immediately put up on eBay. So most people that bought more than 1 it's probably to pay for theirs. I'm sure though there were a few resellers that probably bought like 10 to make some profit. But I doubt it will be as lucrative as the TOS.

Going by the figures Tomy released, the number of people who bought multiples was proportionally small. As you said, I think pretty much everybody who wanted and could afford one has been able to do so already.

I'm sure there is a secondary market for these to capture people who might have missed the boat but I don't see vastly inflated prices like last time. I could be wrong...we'll see!

 

[Rizop]

Going by the figures Tomy released, the number of people who bought multiples was proportionally small. As you said, I think pretty much everybody who wanted and could afford one has been able to do so already.

I'm sure there is a secondary market for these to capture people who might have missed the boat but I don't see vastly inflated prices like last time. I could be wrong...we'll see!

You’re most likely right. The sheer number of orders this time will probably lower its secondary market value.

If this piece is drop dead gorgeous, definitive and they get the iridescent paint right, then this could be a grail piece for the general sci fi collector, significantly boosting its value

 

[RevelationSpace]

I don’t like this term for something that has unlimited supply. Scalpers purchase scarce items, preventing other collectors from obtaining them. Look at the new Nintendo Switch 2 as an example. A scalper can’t grab your copy of this. Are people purchasing them to flip and make a profit? Absolutely. But it’s not scalping, which is a problem for a lot of different hobbies.

Maybe there's some nuance to the term I'm ignorant of, but I only see a subtle difference between scalpers buying something freely available but limited in total supply with the intention of selling it for a profit later, and flippers doing exactly the same thing with this replica.

The only real difference is that in the former case the item is theoretically available forever until supply dwindles (which they're causing to happen faster than otherwise, exacerbating the scarcity), while in the latter the item is only available for general sale for a very limited period of time from a single place no matter how many sell, outside of which anyone who wants one is forced to turn to the scalpers just like the former. While one is theoretically unlimited, in practice It's two sides of the same coin.

Literally the day after the initial US buying window for the Refit ended I saw someone on Reddit saying they wished they'd known about it because they would've ordered one. They weren't alone, and anyone buying something that people can't just buy for an extended period whenever they want — specifically to take advantage of that fact — is what I consider textbook scalping.

 

[rtheriaque]

Maybe there's some nuance to the term I'm ignorant of, but I only see a subtle difference between scalpers buying something freely available but limited in total supply with the intention of selling it for a profit later, and flippers doing exactly the same thing with this replica.

The only real difference is that in the former case the item is theoretically available forever until supply dwindles (which they're causing to happen faster than otherwise, exacerbating the scarcity), while in the latter the item is only available for general sale for a very limited period of time from a single place no matter how many sell, outside of which anyone who wants one is forced to turn to the scalpers just like the former. While one is theoretically unlimited, in practice It's two sides of the same coin.

Literally the day after the initial US buying window for the Refit ended I saw someone on Reddit saying they wished they'd known about it because they would've ordered one. They weren't alone, and anyone buying something that people can't just buy for an extended period whenever they want — specifically to take advantage of that fact — is what I consider textbook scalping.

I really couldn’t disagree more. If Tony had announced they’d make 5000 pieces, then groups of people set up bots to assault the presale and grab the entire quantity, that’s scalping. Hobbyists get to pick paying an exorbitant price or not add the item to their collection. It happens all the time across a bunch of different hobbies. The Nintendo Switch 2 preorder is a bad example, as they’ll eventually be available in quantities.

This had unlimited supply. Investing in something to flip it didn’t prevent anybody from buying one in the first place. That is the core, fundamental difference. Somebody that missed out on the campaign? That sucks, but t’s no different than deciding you want a vintage baseball card, comic, action figure, or other collectible on the secondary market. That’s like calling every collectible store in the world a scalper’s market. They aren’t.