EDIT - ICONS Tie Production Castings.....

[Lear60man]

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Ok, I dug through the shop last night as an Aussie buddy from the RI sent me a message about this fiascio. There WAS a casting that was floating around ICONS from ILM. It was only of the body and arms. The wings were scratched from pics and measurements etc. Ill try to remember to post pics tomorrow of one of the first prototypes and the TIE from SDCC 95.

 

[jawsmodels]

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Oh this is a great thread & I thank everyone except for Mike Taite for their input.

 

[Scott Graham]

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Cool! Thanks for sharing that info.

 

[Nwerke]

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Why did you come here today in the first place?

Yeah, he joins in June and only NOW posts something...and it's this?!

And he's dying now. And he's out of the hobby. Hmmmm, yeah, ahuh.

Mike, the word 'shameless' is hopelessly inadequate for entities like you.

 

[erospawn]

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Yeah, he joins in June and only NOW posts something...and it's this?!

And he's dying now. And he's out of the hobby. Hmmmm, yeah, ahuh.

Mike, the word 'shameless' is hopelessly inadequate for entities like you.

Oh yeah, didn't catch the health part..I really didn't read all of that crap. Yeah yeah, he was sooooo stressed with having to commit to actually getting anything done.. it was soooo stressful for him to think about having to ship out stuff to customers and otherwise be a decent person..but more importantly, it was causing him heart palpatations and panic attacks having to lie, cheat, and steal and then try to cover it all up with more lies and excuses. It finally caught up with him I guess. Oh, and after having read that diatribe, might I say he is the king of run-on sentences!

 

[propologist]

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Yeah, he joins in June and only NOW posts something...and it's this?!

And he's dying now. And he's out of the hobby. Hmmmm, yeah, ahuh.

Mike, the word 'shameless' is hopelessly inadequate for entities like you.

so he can keep tabs, why not. He may not be skilled in some areas , but he seems skilled enough to have taken quite a few people in and out of the business. When you have people fighting over if his molds are real or not , that has to count for something , besides making everyone on this thread look like a bunch of 5 year olds at romper room....lol

anyway..for future reference , Who makes the hands down best and accurate Tie kit to date ?

 

[erospawn]

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I'd hardly call the thousands he's managed to screw people out of "Romper Room" material.

 

[DARKSIDE72]

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so he can keep tabs, why not. He may not be skilled in some areas , but he seems skilled enough to have taken quite a few people in and out of the business. When you have people fighting over if his molds are real or not , that has to count for something , besides making everyone on this thread look like a bunch of 5 year olds at romper room....lol

anyway..for future reference , Who makes the hands down best and accurate Tie kit to date ?

:lolWho'd want to sell you a kit after defending trash like Tait/taint... thumbsdown

He's dying now? The Hobby couldn't get so lucky.

 

[Nwerke]

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When you have people fighting over if his molds are real or not , that has to count for something , besides making everyone on this thread look like a bunch of 5 year olds at romper room....lol

Fighting? You must have been reading a different thread to me. I did notice a civil disagreement during which noses may have been mildly out of joint at one point, but '5 year olds at romper room'?

And it really almost reads as if you're PRAISING his ability to 'take' people. :confused :confused :confused :confused

With attitude like that plus an apparent defence of one of the least popular figures in the hobby, I wonder if you realize just how harshly you could be judged. Jamie's response, for example, wasn't harsh, it was restrained. (kudos, Jamie!)

 

[ralphee]

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Steve you are so full of it and you know it!! your just wanting to eliminate competition of someone else selling tie kits because someone else may get them to their customers faster than you ever could or ever will! as confirmed by a poster in this thread that ACTUALLY worked at ICONS confirmed those are production patterns and you come along and try to say they are recasts, which proves you do NOT know everything about tie fighters, and some other facts you do not know are I traded a terminator kit for those production masters from a guy here on the rpf who worked for ICONS and he confirmed that's where they came from and this is what I told Jase when he wanted them so to say "Tait burned you" is like putting your foot in your mouth as you do not know everything that you think you do.
and while your claiming I recasted those parts why dont you tell everyone here that your tie kits were recasted from an icons tie fighter????? even Ralphee knows this as he mentioned this in a post and no one caught on to it. dont try to deny it Steve, your version 1 tie kit was a direct copy off the icons tie!!, now this is the only post i will make as my health is failing day by day which is why i have retired from modeling and will spend more time with my family from here on out but I wanted to post to this B.S. nonsense from people who know nothing about me or where I got my items from, I'm just so glad that I've been out of this hobby for nearly a year (last October) and just happen to see this thread and had to post a response to it.

I am soooooooooo happy not to be in this hobby anymore!! steve, go ahead and cast your kits but don't worry about me stepping on your turf as I'm not in this hobby or any hobby for that matter but don't try to spread B.S. to another person who might be stepping on your turf like Jasse here, you were quick to respond and shoot it down without knowing the facts, just proves your not a good business man and can't take it when someone else wants to sell SW kits which is why you have to acquire all the masters regarding SW to eliminate competition and many people do not see that but I do and I called you out on it.

and mods, ban me i dont really care as i wont log onto or even comes to this site ever again.
I'd rather spend valuable time with my family.

I also want to clear up and if memory serves Jasse paid 600.00 for these tie patterns mentioned in this thread, but he also bought the kelly wings (he was told they were kelly wings), 1/24 tie defender patterns which I made and 1/24 tie bomber patterns which I made as well which all these were sold separately over a year and half ago.

I still have the email from the person I made the trade with on these icons patterns stating where they came from.

Whoever this 'tard is, id really prefer he make his case without mentioning my name in the thread, ive got zero tolerance in this hobby anymore, and lame, dimwitted, theiving recasters, are at the bottom of that torrid pile.

Carry on.

lee

 

[ralphee]

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so he can keep tabs, why not. He may not be skilled in some areas , but he seems skilled enough to have taken quite a few people in and out of the business. When you have people fighting over if his molds are real or not , that has to count for something , besides making everyone on this thread look like a bunch of 5 year olds at romper room....lol

anyway..for future reference , Who makes the hands down best and accurate Tie kit to date ?

Remind us now, why are YOU any good for the hobby, with comments like that? Do you have ANY idea how many people this man has stole from?
Seriously buddy, i think Snapfast are more your thing, leave the Studio scale for the grown ups.
Oh and if you have to ask who makes the most accurate TIE kit, you really do need another hobby.

lee

 

[propologist]

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Remind us now, why are YOU any good for the hobby, with comments like that? Do you have ANY idea how many people this man has stole from?
Seriously buddy, i think Snapfast are more your thing, leave the Studio scale for the grown ups.
Oh and if you have to ask who makes the most accurate TIE kit, you really do need another hobby.

lee

Lee ,

your taking what I posted completely wrong. I'm was just saying that at some point he had enough skills to do SS and apparently good enough for people to buy from him . How else would he fool everyone on this board continuously. Every week there is yet another endless post about someone getting taken when it would only take SOMEONE to confront him and man up about it.
I'm not defending the crook in no way . Just saying that more needs to be done. Put a sticky up so everyone that comes to the board KNOWs his tricks. that would reach registered and unregistered people.
he's had to have support from members here over the years , call them out and get rid of them.
I didn't mean to step on toes , but he " wins" if ,all people do is fight back and forth about it. He created a name months ago to post one comment..wouldn't you think he can do it again.

And Lee, because I don't post build threads, show off all my work or appoint myself a master prop builder doesn't mean I don't know what i'm doing. Trust me I am willing to put my skills up against anyone on this board...I'm not like a lot of guys that will hide behind a keyboard and have keyboard courage , I back you anything I say or do...you play with the bull you will get the horns. If Tait has screwed me outta money I would be on his door step or at the funeral of his wife looking for my money...nuff said

 

[erospawn]

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Every week there is yet another endless post about someone getting taken when it would only take SOMEONE to confront him and man up about it.

Man up about it? Someone should do something? What do you propose we do? The man has taken up screwing ppl outside of the US nowadays because it's easier to get away with it..As for locals, what can we do legally in a hobby that isn't exactly straight forward anyway? It's like getting mad at a thief because he stole the candy you stole from the store. As for crimes he has done.. Mail Fraud, identity theft, credit card fraud to name a few.. those who have been subject to this have refrained from doing anything about it. I wasn't one he screwed over that badly... I only got screwed out of 30 bucks... Unfortunately, there is no law against being a total coniving, pathological lying worm.

I'm not defending the crook in no way . Just saying that more needs to be done. Put a sticky up so everyone that comes to the board KNOWs his tricks. that would reach registered and unregistered people.
he's had to have support from members here over the years , call them out and get rid of them.

Thats been tried before.. the real problem is that the man buddies up with ppl that don't know him very well.. makes up excuses for why people are mad at him and takes no accountability for his actions. He makes himself appear as the underdog.. Everyone roots for the Underdog. So, to get rid of anyone who has supported him in the past??? You can do that, but there were a lot of us newbies to the forums or even the hobby that were fooled and supported him, that is until he stabbed us in the back to. Yes, I was one of those who defended him at one point and I'd rather forget about that.

 

[propologist]

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just too much fighting and time wasted due to him, but there are others like him and it will never stop unless more is done. Seeing people stop producing because they are getting recast is a terrible thing. One offs are much better in my mind anyway.

 

[Nwerke]

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OK, shows how careful we need to be with how we phrase things eh?

As for his "skills", they're rarely if ever evident. 99% of what he shifts seems to be crappy recasts of other people's product. He started a Sandcrawler that looked like it might, potentially, be nice. It didn't get far and I'm a little sceptical now that it was even his work, though.

 

[tomj]

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erospit your so full of crap just like all democraps, yep your a democrap and I could see that before you told me you were and you lie like a democrap as well. You say I screwed people out of thousands overseas and in the U.S. you are so full of it dude and idiots like you continuously keep posting this B.S. crap to the point where people believe it and now there others on here that actually believe it, I never screwed you out of 30.00 you lying piece of trash, here is where your "anger" towards me lies and I am calling you on the carpet right here and now, you got pissed at me for not wanting to mold and cast your 1:350 Enterprise E, you also wanted me to foot the bill on it and I told you several times it was INACCURATE and MANY people warned me not to produce that flying turd because of the inaccuracies, and on the 1:350 Voyager master you post on other boards that it was your idea and that only you had a hand in it, you fail to mention it was me that suggested you do the Voyager because you were wanting to the Romulan bird and you fail to mention that my wife did the CAD files for your master which I printed out and mailed to you and was and is the BASIS of that master so give credit were credit is due bruddah! last I read you convinced monkeyworks to mold and cast those wooden boats.
Now I don't owe you or anyone a damn dime!!! my last run of kits was the smugglers choice and ALL orders shipped!! ALL of them! and in October I said I was done and I was, if I was a crook I would have taken deposits or preorders on the 38" republic star destroyer which was 80% completed before i said "ENOUGH!!" and threw the master in the trash, I also threw out the sandcrawler master. I made a Tie bomber master took 5 peorders and refunded all 5 orders. WHY WOULD A CROOK ISSUE REFUNDS!!!!!!!!! you fraking idiot.
I can name several people on this board who have taken money for orders and are WAY behind in sending them out!!! and yet are allowed to continue to operate in the same manner and yet I owe no one and I'm a crook??

Main reason I quit this hobby last October was the continuing B.S. between people and not mainly with me but in general, someone gets a kit from a maker and they are bitching about a small bubble on a glue side and wanting replacements (I never had this happen but I have read about it on here).
Another thing I want to point out is so many of you following and believe what others say that my castings were crap, people do a search on here and look up "smugglers choice" and you can see my castings are FLAWLESS! http://www.therpf.com/f11/smugglers-choice-69724/
my falcon was top notch!! so many people on my old site followed that casting progress with high anticipation and high expectations and I DELIVERED! I used pressure pots and pressure cast my parts at 40psi, my clear parts were BUBBLE FREE people.
Many of you do not know that I did casting work for several people who sell these model kits that your buying and I used to do work for Starship modeler as well, so keep spreading the B.S. and it really makes you look like fools when anyone can simply do a search on this board under "smugglers choice" and can attest that my skills are there.

Now back to my resin-free life...

 

[tomj]

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As for crimes he has done.. Mail Fraud, identity theft, credit card fraud to name a few..

Ron, you better chill because your posting liable content as I have never done of these crimes you mention you piece of s**t.

 

[tomj]

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what cracks me up is the fact i have been out of this hobby for nearly a year and you people can't find anything else to talk about. You people must be bored out of your minds.

last post for me.

 

[ralphee]

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Ron, you better chill because your posting liable content as I have never done of these crimes you mention you piece of s**t.

Its not liable, if some of it is fact....is it? Dan ? Mike ? Who are you again, just to make it clear, we get fuzzy.

lee

 

[darth_myeek]

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and mods, ban me i dont really care as i wont log onto or even comes to this site ever again.

Last Activity: Today 06:09 AM (09/18/2010)

last post for me.