Doc's foam/fiberglass work + Mark 42 painted pieces
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
that is the same method as the elmers glue. He said it didnt give him the result he wanted.
that is the same method as the elmers glue. He said it didnt give him the result he wanted.
docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
thanks, srry on the tests I've done didnt work, ill explain below
yup Thanks IRONFETT
On tests Ive done Pva (elmers) didnt dry as thick as modpodge and didnt like the finish. Ive tried sealing with plasticdip then adhesion promoter and I put pic of end result wrist piece that had tons of wrinkles. Do not use plastic dip for sealing due to it doesnt adhere well to foam thats why youll get wrinkles but sealing it first then plastic dip it will do its job and youll have the flexibility. Also do not use adhesion promoter as a primer also tested. To get a good finish ya need a real primer but to make sure it bonds to plastic dip need the adhesion prometer. So end result is materials by themselves or 2 of them together result not good but all of them combined ...priceless lol
thanks, srry on the tests I've done didnt work, ill explain below
yup Thanks IRONFETT
On tests Ive done Pva (elmers) didnt dry as thick as modpodge and didnt like the finish. Ive tried sealing with plasticdip then adhesion promoter and I put pic of end result wrist piece that had tons of wrinkles. Do not use plastic dip for sealing due to it doesnt adhere well to foam thats why youll get wrinkles but sealing it first then plastic dip it will do its job and youll have the flexibility. Also do not use adhesion promoter as a primer also tested. To get a good finish ya need a real primer but to make sure it bonds to plastic dip need the adhesion prometer. So end result is materials by themselves or 2 of them together result not good but all of them combined ...priceless lol
Kormier
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
Best foam build ever! and thanks for the tips!
Today I went shopping for a repair kit to plug a whole I got in one of my Jeep's tire from a screw. In the aisle with all the tire repair stuff there was a green compound called "slime" that is apparently used to shoot inside a tire to seal it and either repair or prevent puncture damage. I immediately wondered how well that product would work to seal foam given that its designed to coat the inside of a tubeless tire.... I might pick up a bottle and give it a try when I get back from my vacation. It was pretty cheap too.
Best foam build ever! and thanks for the tips!
Today I went shopping for a repair kit to plug a whole I got in one of my Jeep's tire from a screw. In the aisle with all the tire repair stuff there was a green compound called "slime" that is apparently used to shoot inside a tire to seal it and either repair or prevent puncture damage. I immediately wondered how well that product would work to seal foam given that its designed to coat the inside of a tubeless tire.... I might pick up a bottle and give it a try when I get back from my vacation. It was pretty cheap too.
jackieisrockin
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
I have one question about the last step. Im looking for more of a metallic look other than a shiny look so is the waxing part necessary to the process? Or is the paint and clear coat enough and the waxing and wet sanding just a bonus
I have one question about the last step. Im looking for more of a metallic look other than a shiny look so is the waxing part necessary to the process? Or is the paint and clear coat enough and the waxing and wet sanding just a bonus
docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
Thanks, hey ya think like i do when i go to store, im looking at stuff n thinking hmmm how would the foam react to that lol well ya wont know unless you try n if u do let me know of result
the wax is just a bonus, you dont have to do that step and be done after putting the clear
Yr welcome Finnlock
Thanks, hey ya think like i do when i go to store, im looking at stuff n thinking hmmm how would the foam react to that lol well ya wont know unless you try n if u do let me know of result
the wax is just a bonus, you dont have to do that step and be done after putting the clear
Yr welcome Finnlock
docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
This is another test Ive done on the glove thats in my photos, Im redoing it with my new method so I let my kids play with it n now its destroyed lol. It was with plastic dip, adh promoter, krylon primer for plastic and the glaze. Got the shine but never tried the bend test n look what happened. Full of cracks. Heres the ab piece on the tutorial still no crack or wrinkles n I bent the heck out of it for a good shot lol one more bend for closeup shot n not one single crack or anything and can even see my thumb reflection. Just wanted to show a little more proof that it works, also just because its flexible dont mean bend the hell out of it like i was showing i just bent as an example of flexibility. lol
This is another test Ive done on the glove thats in my photos, Im redoing it with my new method so I let my kids play with it n now its destroyed lol. It was with plastic dip, adh promoter, krylon primer for plastic and the glaze. Got the shine but never tried the bend test n look what happened. Full of cracks. Heres the ab piece on the tutorial still no crack or wrinkles n I bent the heck out of it for a good shot lol one more bend for closeup shot n not one single crack or anything and can even see my thumb reflection. Just wanted to show a little more proof that it works, also just because its flexible dont mean bend the hell out of it like i was showing i just bent as an example of flexibility. lol
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StarksWarehouse
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
Just to warn you, the Slime product doesnt dry, it literally stays as "slime". so dont think it would be very useful for sealing foam.
Just to warn you, the Slime product doesnt dry, it literally stays as "slime". so dont think it would be very useful for sealing foam.
Kormier
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
Really?? thanks, you just saved me $7.00.
I thought for sure that it would form some sort of flexible rigid coating on the inside of the tire. Thanks for letting me know.:thumbsup
Really?? thanks, you just saved me $7.00.
I thought for sure that it would form some sort of flexible rigid coating on the inside of the tire. Thanks for letting me know.:thumbsup
Re: ironman coated with rondo, now unlocked mystery to painting foam thats flexible
EyeofSauron
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docholiday78
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docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
Just another reminder It is flexible but dont bend and squish it into a ball or somthing. lol and it is scratch resistant but that doesnt mean to run a key along paint. This is for just to have better mobility, comfort with a nice finish thats it, not for bending fun lol its still foam. I just have a feeling some might try ;D
Just another reminder It is flexible but dont bend and squish it into a ball or somthing. lol and it is scratch resistant but that doesnt mean to run a key along paint. This is for just to have better mobility, comfort with a nice finish thats it, not for bending fun lol its still foam. I just have a feeling some might try ;D
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Re: ironman coated with rondo, now unlocked mystery to painting foam thats flexible
docholiday78
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Re: ironman coated with rondo, now unlocked mystery to painting foam thats flexible
Foamies is closed cell foam made from Ethylene Vinyl Acetate and blended copolymers. It has a high level of chemical cross linking. The result is ....:behave lol its sheets of foam for kids, you can find em usually at any craft store. I get mine at Hobby Lobby. Ive never tried camping mats but Ive read that it has a textured surface? I could b wrong
Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
awesome work doc! I'm still fairly new at this. but between You, stealth, darkside, and numerous guys on this forum, one can make a hell of a costume using various methods. I was wondering if you use a specific amount of resin, bondo and hardener? ex> 1/2 cup of each and a 2 inch strip of hardener? And are you applying it with the provided plastic spatula? thanks again
awesome work doc! I'm still fairly new at this. but between You, stealth, darkside, and numerous guys on this forum, one can make a hell of a costume using various methods. I was wondering if you use a specific amount of resin, bondo and hardener? ex> 1/2 cup of each and a 2 inch strip of hardener? And are you applying it with the provided plastic spatula? thanks again
Re: foam with rondo+ plus new method thats flexible, shiny, resists cracks and wrinkl
hey doccc !!! what if i already sealed my parts with pva glue :/ like i made a new process that close completely the pores its 6 diluted layes and 1 straight layer ? can u make a test with that one ? if it doesnt work will i need to spray mod podge over the pva ??
thanks my friend !!
hey doccc !!! what if i already sealed my parts with pva glue :/ like i made a new process that close completely the pores its 6 diluted layes and 1 straight layer ? can u make a test with that one ? if it doesnt work will i need to spray mod podge over the pva ??
thanks my friend !!
@andy:
From what I've gathered from his past comments in this thread, he said he mixed the bondo/resin 50-50, then added hardener until the mix was a nice pink color
Red = too much hardener
Grey = not enough hardener
I hope that's the answer you were looking for
I've been following that method myself and the mix has come out great
From what I've gathered from his past comments in this thread, he said he mixed the bondo/resin 50-50, then added hardener until the mix was a nice pink color
Red = too much hardener
Grey = not enough hardener
I hope that's the answer you were looking for
I've been following that method myself and the mix has come out great
docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ finally satisfied with abs with weathering caused by bore
After tons of tries finally got the side abs the way I wanted. The mid abs is the same one from tutorial. Didnt feel like building more pieces I guess had no motivation or just got lazy:sleep lol so I did some suttle weathering Which I think came out pretty cool. I didnt want to go overboard. Still debating on adding battle damage so we'll see. Took some pics to show you guys and yes its flexible :love, next up the underwear I mean cod
After tons of tries finally got the side abs the way I wanted. The mid abs is the same one from tutorial. Didnt feel like building more pieces I guess had no motivation or just got lazy:sleep lol so I did some suttle weathering Which I think came out pretty cool. I didnt want to go overboard. Still debating on adding battle damage so we'll see. Took some pics to show you guys and yes its flexible :love, next up the underwear I mean cod
