Disney + | She-Hulk

Ron

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
The onus of responsibility to deliver a good product is on the one selling the product, not the one purchasing it. The CGI may be a work in progress and may vastly improve as the show nears release (as is standard practice for a lot of movies and shows now) but I think it's foolish for consumers to not have thoughts on what is being shown to them. If they simply aren't ready to meet a deadline because the quality of the product isn't up to snuff, then move the deadline. That's not the consumer's problem. That's their problem.

Maybe the effects industry needs an overhaul and there are shortages in staff, but there are shortages in every industry right now, and yet the consumer still expects results. The demand isn't going to disappear, but I think it's reasonable that the film industry take the same feedback as any other. I fail to see why they get to be exempt from it. Films are made as a means to collect expendable income. They are a service industry. If the service sucks, the consumer has the right to speak their mind. Stop making excuses for bad decisions on their part.

If I sell a bad product or my service sucks, the only one I can blame is myself, so I try and hold to a higher standard. Sadly not everyone feels that way.
I commented negativity on a trailer that's sole purpose is to SELL me on the show. Apparently, that's a no-no. You'd think I insulted somebody's mother. Faak, lighten up, guys lol.
 
Last edited:

blewis17

Master Member
I also immediately thought of Shrek. They really need to fix the CGI. It looks awful. In all honesty, is it lucky that we get all these shows and movies? Or are the studios lucky if they get our money to watch these things? I think we've forgotten who really has the power here.
They are on a TV budget and timetable , I understand. You do what you can and move on, because $$ and time reasons.
But my brother informed me way back, that projects don't always get handed to the CGI "a team" even at well known visual effects houses.
 

ALLEY

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
I commented negativity on a trailer that's sole purpose is to SELL me on the show. Apparently, that's a no-no. You'd think I insulted somebody's mother. Faak, lighten up, guys lol.

You didn’t insult my mother…but speaking for me, personally, the fact that you didn’t react positively to the trailer wounded my inner child and made me question my own otherwise unquestioning love of the content. We can’t have that.

For those reasons, you must reevaluate your taste, disregard your experience, deny your senses, and ignore your overall subjective evaluation of the content.

I tend to follow the maxim that all opinions are wrong, unless they are my own, of course.
 
Last edited:

Ron

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
You didn’t insult my mother…but speaking for me, personally, the fact that you didn’t react positively to the trailer wounded my inner child and made me question my own otherwise unquestioning love of the content. We can’t have that.

For those reasons, you must reevaluate your taste, disregard your experience, deny your senses, and ignore your overall subjective evaluation of the content.

I tend to follow the maxim that all opinions are wrong, unless they are my own, of course.
I've reevaluated my position and I now find the She-Hulk trailer to be...

giphy-5.gif
 

Bloop

Sr Member
Is it weird that the first super that came to my mind was Bruce Wayne/Batman in the DC universe?
I think it's safe to say the line from the She Hulk trailer references all comic book superheroes, not just the ones that exist "in universe." It would make more sense if she was referring to fictional superheroes' origin stories rather than the likes of Matt Murdock, as she would be less likely to know which of the "real" heroes (real to her in the MCU, that is) were orphaned. I believe the DC comic heroes have been referenced in the MCU, existing only in comics and works of fiction. I'd guess she's drawing on that as much as any "real" orphaned heroes she may know about. Plus, the writers are likley addressing us as viewers, who know of orphaned superheroes in all comics, not just Marvel - Superman, Batman, Robin, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Daredevil, etc.
 

Bloop

Sr Member
I also had some issues with the "uncanny valley" of the CG, but I'm more worried about the over-sexualization of the character than the look. It seems like there's some parallels to the failed Wonder Woman TV series created by Ally McBeal's David E. Kelley, starring Adrianne Palicki. Maybe She Hulk is supposed to be a "women's empowerment" sort of story, but it seemed a little superficial from the trailer. Guess we'll have to wait a few months to find out.
 

ALLEY

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
Disney has yet to mishandle a character, in my judgement, so I’m pretty pumped for this.

For those who are whining about the CGI, let me say that I actually prefer CGI that is a little “amateurish”, or “muddy”; otherwise, if it looked too good, I might forget that I’m watching a TV show and begin thinking that there really is an 8 foot tall, gamma-radiated creature out there—which is terrifying. I had that reaction to Jurassic Park…the CGI was too good and I ended up locked in my house for weeks, terrified that there might be dinosaurs outside. Give me CGI that looks like it was made for a direct to video movie in 2004, all day long, I say.

And I am also all for what some are calling “heavy-handed humor”. Subtlety and nuance in comedy too often goes over my head.
 
Last edited:

Funky

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
Disney has yet to mishandle a character, in my judgement, so I’m pretty pumped for this.

For those who are whining about the CGI, let me say that I actually prefer CGI that is a little “amateurish”, or “muddy”; otherwise, if it looked too good, I might forget that I’m watching a TV show and begin thinking that there really is an 8 foot tall, gamma radiated creature out there, which is terrifying. I had that reaction to Jurassic Park…the CGI was too good and I ended up locked in my house for weeks, terrified that there might be dinosaurs outside. Give me CGI that looks like it was made for a direct to video movie in 2004, all day long, I say.

And I am also all for what some are calling “heavy-handed humor”. Subtlety and nuance in comedy too often goes over my head.
Respectfully, that sounds silly to me.
“Give me inferior effects so I don’t get too scared!”
I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone else besides you that would say that. If you were too scared to go outside for weeks for fear of real dinosaurs, perhaps your parents used poor judgement in letting you see JP and you were not mature enough to handle it. They should know their child better.
Again, I’m not trying to be insulting or trying to intentionally be disrespectful. I just think requesting for bad CGI so you don’t get too scared is a bit silly. I think most of us agree with what films cost today and the cost of tickets, I DEMAND the highest quality of realism as possible. I WANT to believe it.
 

ALLEY

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
Respectfully, that sounds silly to me.
“Give me inferior effects so I don’t get too scared!”
I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone else besides you that would say that. If you were too scared to go outside for weeks for fear of real dinosaurs, perhaps your parents used poor judgement in letting you see JP and you were not mature enough to handle it. They should know their child better.
Again, I’m not trying to be insulting or trying to intentionally be disrespectful. I just think requesting for bad CGI so you don’t get too scared is a bit silly. I think most of us agree with what films cost today and the cost of tickets, I DEMAND the highest quality of realism as possible. I WANT to believe it.

My friend, I would only be upset if anything that I wrote were true.

;)
 
Last edited:

edge10

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
The onus of responsibility to deliver a good product is on the one selling the product, not the one purchasing it. The CGI may be a work in progress and may vastly improve as the show nears release (as is standard practice for a lot of movies and shows now) but I think it's foolish for consumers to not have thoughts on what is being shown to them. If they simply aren't ready to meet a deadline because the quality of the product isn't up to snuff, then move the deadline. That's not the consumer's problem. That's their problem.

Maybe the effects industry needs an overhaul and there are shortages in staff, but there are shortages in every industry right now, and yet the consumer still expects results. The demand isn't going to disappear, but I think it's reasonable that the film industry take the same feedback as any other. I fail to see why they get to be exempt from it. Films are made as a means to collect expendable income. They are a service industry. If the service sucks, the consumer has the right to speak their mind. Stop making excuses for bad decisions on their part.

If I sell a bad product or my service sucks, the only one I can blame is myself, so I try and hold to a higher standard. Sadly not everyone feels that way.
This thread reminds me of this skit:

 

NeoRutty

Master Member
RPF PREMIUM MEMBER
I had to get a standing desk cuz of MASSIVE ROIDS caused by sitting at a desk 60 hours a week.

Sure my job is only 40 hours a week editing a preschool show, but I took that easy 40 hour week so I can do freelance on my own stuff for the other hours to irk out enough to live in the city so I'm close to work.

They're working on this show and Kenobi down the street... and I didn't want to work on THOSE cuz it seemed it would be even harder hours.

I dunno why I chose to complain today... I guess reading this thread I'm like "welp, at least they're not complaining about the CG in a show I'm on and working to death to get out on time"
 
Last edited:

NakedMoleRat

Master Member
Disney has yet to mishandle a character, in my judgement, so I’m pretty pumped for this.

For those who are whining about the CGI, let me say that I actually prefer CGI that is a little “amateurish”, or “muddy”; otherwise, if it looked too good, I might forget that I’m watching a TV show and begin thinking that there really is an 8 foot tall, gamma-radiated creature out there—which is terrifying. I had that reaction to Jurassic Park…the CGI was too good and I ended up locked in my house for weeks, terrified that there might be dinosaurs outside. Give me CGI that looks like it was made for a direct to video movie in 2004, all day long, I say.

And I am also all for what some are calling “heavy-handed humor”. Subtlety and nuance in comedy too often goes over my head.
My cousin has read many, many self help books. If you’d like to speak with him, he could schedule a session with you.
 

Your message may be considered spam for the following reasons:

  1. Your new thread title is very short, and likely is unhelpful.
  2. Your reply is very short and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  3. Your reply is very long and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  4. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose.
  5. Your message is mostly quotes or spoilers.
  6. Your reply has occurred very quickly after a previous reply and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  7. This thread is locked.
Top