Deagostini Falcon. Anyone seen this?

[LrdSatyr8]

I've never opened any packages at all...mostly because everything is packed and going thru a divorce....soooooo whats the differences in these stickers and the original stickers...not sure what the originals look like , never had a chance to get wrapped around that project yet ?????????????

Well the biggest problem that I personally had with the DeAgostini stickers is the fact that they only had one lightbar and the panels were all black. That was the major thing that drove me to do this in the first place... but when you look closer at the stickers the differences are really obvious... here's a comparison between the original stickers and my stickers so you can see the changes I made to be much more accurate to the original falcon cockpit...

As you can see the original stickers you really couldn't tell which sidewall was which... they both looked about the same only reversed... I added the lightbars and fixed the detail to be completely accurate to the original falcon cockpit set (with the help of SofaKing and Steve StarKiller). I'm still working a bit on the main console and the doorway thou. The door sticker in the DeAgo isn't too bad... but the main console looks pretty bad. There should be a couple of raised sections on the console (a square monitor hood and a raised section that the levers stick out of). I'm working on those so that they can be made from this sheet as well (either out of paper or used as a template on a sheet of styrene). Either way, I've done my best to maintain the sizes so that they can be direct replacements of the original stickers that come with the kit. I'm not selling them... I'll be giving them to everyone once they are all done... right now I was just looking for a couple of beta testers to try them out and make sure they printed properly. Hope that helps explain it better.

 

[gyoung2993]

Well the biggest problem that I personally had with the DeAgostini stickers is the fact that they only had one lightbar and the panels were all black. That was the major thing that drove me to do this in the first place... but when you look closer at the stickers the differences are really obvious... here's a comparison between the original stickers and my stickers so you can see the changes I made to be much more accurate to the original falcon cockpit...

http://davis-works.net/dfstickcomp.jpg

As you can see the original stickers you really couldn't tell which sidewall was which... they both looked about the same only reversed... I added the lightbars and fixed the detail to be completely accurate to the original falcon cockpit set (with the help of SofaKing and Steve StarKiller). I'm still working a bit on the main console and the doorway thou. The door sticker in the DeAgo isn't too bad... but the main console looks pretty bad. There should be a couple of raised sections on the console (a square monitor hood and a raised section that the levers stick out of). I'm working on those so that they can be made from this sheet as well (either out of paper or used as a template on a sheet of styrene). Either way, I've done my best to maintain the sizes so that they can be direct replacements of the original stickers that come with the kit. I'm not selling them... I'll be giving them to everyone once they are all done... right now I was just looking for a couple of beta testers to try them out and make sure they printed properly. Hope that helps explain it better.

Oh , wow that's fantastic work indeed....Love it....Very Impressive work with you 3 gentleman on the falcon detail...I would be in for a set if , and when you feel they would be ready for sure , thanks for the helpful insight

 

[Tom1971]

Oh , wow that's fantastic work indeed....Love it....Very Impressive work with you 3 gentleman on the falcon detail...I would be in for a set if , and when you feel they would be ready for sure , thanks for the helpful insight

Ditto...Incredible work and anxious to get a set as well. What a great offering cheers

 

[LrdSatyr8]

Thanks guys... I hope to have a complete set of replacement stickers available to everyone! This is an awesome kit and I just want to add my part to help it be even better!

 

[gyoung2993]

LrdSatyr8 , you definitely succeeded for sure

 

[Tom1971]

Thanks guys... I hope to have a complete set of replacement stickers available to everyone! This is an awesome kit and I just want to add my part to help it be even better!

I know you want to offer them to anyone to download but if you have a really good printer and know a good adhesive paper to use I would love to buy a couple sets. My printer is not the best.

 

[usaeatt2]

I know you want to offer them to anyone to download but if you have a really good printer and know a good adhesive paper to use I would love to buy a couple sets. My printer is not the best.

DITTO! LrdSatyr8, you've added significantly just by the threads you've painstakingly maintained...decals too? This is awesome. I've been collecting parts and following the threads. I don't plan to go nuts with photo etched and 3D printed replacement parts, but these decals are an easy upgrade I'd be happy to include on my build. I would be MORE than willing to pay for a set. REALLY COOL! Thanks for your research and development work!!!

 

[LrdSatyr8]

WOW thanks guys! So far no problems have been reported by my beta testers so I suppose it should be alright to let everyone else have a go at these stickers. Now mind you, I'm still doing a little work on these but the main parts (the back wall and the side walls) are pretty much done. I'll probably come out with another version with the console redone and hopefully that will be the end of it... but if anyone wants these stickers... here they are:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/es5y0pghayiyz3z/DeAgo New Stickers.pdf?dl=0

Since they are in PDF format, the size should be maintained across any platform. They print on a single sheet of 8.5x11 paper. At 300 dpi they should be pretty hires and when printed should be the same size as the stickers that came with the Falcon itself. Now like I said, I'm also working on a matte for these stickers for printing on photoetch so that the holes will match up exactly as they do on the sticker. Right now if you use them on the backwall piece the holes won't match, but they are close. PE isn't that difficult, just requires the right supplies (you can get a good photoetch kit from Micromark).

One thing I am thinking of doing is printing them up as decals... which is also rather easy. Just print them up on a piece of glossy photo paper and allow the ink the dry, then spray it with a gloss or satin coat of clear lacquer and viola... you have waterslide decals. Should work very well with Tony's 3D printed parts. There's a lot that can be done with these and now that I've made them available as self printed stickers, I'm sure you all can find new and exciting ways to use them in your kits! If you do use them thou, let me know... take pics... show me what you've done with them! I'd love to see! Hope this helps!

 

[Vacformedhero]

http://davis-works.net/NewDStcikers.pdf

One thing I am thinking of doing is printing them up as decals... which is also rather easy. Just print them up on a piece of glossy photo paper and allow the ink the dry, then spray it with a gloss or satin coat of clear lacquer and viola... you have waterslide decals. Should work very well with Tony's 3D printed parts. There's a lot that can be done with these and now that I've made them available as self printed stickers, I'm sure you all can find new and exciting ways to use them in your kits! If you do use them thou, let me know... take pics... show me what you've done with them! I'd love to see! Hope this helps!

thanks LrdSatyr8 for sharing this
im interested in this techique, is the photo paper too thick to apply as a decal or do you remove the back of the paper? I suppose being the back of the cockpit the thickness won't be apparent ?

 

[LrdSatyr8]

thanks LrdSatyr8 for sharing this
im interested in this techique, is the photo paper too thick to apply as a decal or do you remove the back of the paper? I suppose being the back of the cockpit the thickness won't be apparent ?

When printing these stickers up, you can print them on normal paper. Just glue whatever glue you want to adhere it to what you want to place it on. However, if you want to use them as a decal, it would be a thin film so it doesn't have any structural integrity whatsoever and you would just place it over the top of whatever you want to place it on and it would stick there by itself, although you will have to seal it to the surface with a overcoat of clear lacquer to prevent it from lifting or crinkling... Basically the technique for making your own decals requires the following...

- Glossy Photo Paper
- A clear spray lacquer (any good clear gloss or satin finish spray can works)
- A printer

Then what you do is the following...

- Print what you want to use as a decal on the glossy photo paper... use the highest quality settings you can for crisp clear details. Let the ink dry completely... a few hours works!
- Spray the clear lacquer over the printed decal and allow to dry completely. You can spray a second clear coat on for a thicker decal.
- Once completely dry, cut your image out of the paper and place upside down carefully floating in a bowl of warm water.
- Watch the water penetrate the paper and when it reaches the center, remove it from the water and the decal will slide off the paper easily.

The only limitation to making your own decals is you can't print WHITE. Which really sucks, unless you've got a special printer that will do so. But they end up costing an arm and a leg and the white ink is not cheap. But this is a really good way to making high detail for your model kits with minimal effort and is pretty cheap and easy to do. All you need to have is a graphic program like Photoshop or even Paint in windows. I use this method all the time for creating my own decals. It works really well!

One tip I have for making it look like the decal is painted on the model when it's applied is take a little Distilled White Vinegar and paint it on the surface you're placing the decal. The vinegar will soften the decal just enough to allow it to meld into all the little nooks and crannies. When it's dry spray it with a dull or gloss coat of lacquer to seal it to the surface. It will look like it's painted on when you do this! Hope this helps.

 

[Dedalus5550]

WOW thanks guys! So far no problems have been reported by my beta testers so I suppose it should be alright to let everyone else have a go at these stickers. Now mind you, I'm still doing a little work on these but the main parts (the back wall and the side walls) are pretty much done. I'll probably come out with another version with the console redone and hopefully that will be the end of it... but if anyone wants these stickers... here they are:

http://davis-works.net/NewDStcikers.pdf

Since they are in PDF format, the size should be maintained across any platform. They print on a single sheet of 8.5x11 paper. At 300 dpi they should be pretty hires and when printed should be the same size as the stickers that came with the Falcon itself. Now like I said, I'm also working on a matte for these stickers for printing on photoetch so that the holes will match up exactly as they do on the sticker. Right now if you use them on the backwall piece the holes won't match, but they are close. PE isn't that difficult, just requires the right supplies (you can get a good photoetch kit from Micromark).

One thing I am thinking of doing is printing them up as decals... which is also rather easy. Just print them up on a piece of glossy photo paper and allow the ink the dry, then spray it with a gloss or satin coat of clear lacquer and viola... you have waterslide decals. Should work very well with Tony's 3D printed parts. There's a lot that can be done with these and now that I've made them available as self printed stickers, I'm sure you all can find new and exciting ways to use them in your kits! If you do use them thou, let me know... take pics... show me what you've done with them! I'd love to see! Hope this helps!

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[C17ldmstr]

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Thanks LrdSatyr8! It's always great to see folks openly share their work. Makes the community better. Hopefully someday I'll get off me arse and make my own contribution and give back to all the talent here! Thanks again.

 

[LrdSatyr8]

Oops... typo in the link... here it is

https://www.dropbox.com/s/es5y0pghayiyz3z/DeAgo New Stickers.pdf?dl=0

 

[Gus76]

Oops... typo in the link... here it is

http://davis-works.net/NewDStickers.pdf

Thank you for sharing! Great work!

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[Vacformedhero]

When printing these stickers up, you can print them on normal paper. Just glue whatever glue you want to adhere it to what you want to place it on. However, if you want to use them as a decal, it would be a thin film so it doesn't have any structural integrity whatsoever and you would just place it over the top of whatever you want to place it on and it would stick there by itself, although you will have to seal it to the surface with a overcoat of clear lacquer to prevent it from lifting or crinkling... Basically the technique for making your own decals requires the following...

- Glossy Photo Paper
- A clear spray lacquer (any good clear gloss or satin finish spray can works)
- A printer

Then what you do is the following...

- Print what you want to use as a decal on the glossy photo paper... use the highest quality settings you can for crisp clear details. Let the ink dry completely... a few hours works!
- Spray the clear lacquer over the printed decal and allow to dry completely. You can spray a second clear coat on for a thicker decal.
- Once completely dry, cut your image out of the paper and place upside down carefully floating in a bowl of warm water.
- Watch the water penetrate the paper and when it reaches the center, remove it from the water and the decal will slide off the paper easily.

The only limitation to making your own decals is you can't print WHITE. Which really sucks, unless you've got a special printer that will do so. But they end up costing an arm and a leg and the white ink is not cheap. But this is a really good way to making high detail for your model kits with minimal effort and is pretty cheap and easy to do. All you need to have is a graphic program like Photoshop or even Paint in windows. I use this method all the time for creating my own decals. It works really well!

One tip I have for making it look like the decal is painted on the model when it's applied is take a little Distilled White Vinegar and paint it on the surface you're placing the decal. The vinegar will soften the decal just enough to allow it to meld into all the little nooks and crannies. When it's dry spray it with a dull or gloss coat of lacquer to seal it to the surface. It will look like it's painted on when you do this! Hope this helps.

that is brilliant I had never heard of this technique before , thank you for sharing , and with detailed break down , appreciate it

 

[kokkari]

that is brilliant I had never heard of this technique before , thank you for sharing , and with detailed break down , appreciate it

This sounds like the technique you would use with water slide decal paper. I've never heard of using conventional glossy photo paper. I would be interested to see if it works though.

 

[LrdSatyr8]

This sounds like the technique you would use with water slide decal paper. I've never heard of using conventional glossy photo paper. I would be interested to see if it works though.

That's really all decal paper is... is just glossy photo paper. I get the HP printable glossy photo paper and it works perfectly for this. One thing I learned early on thou is that you really have to wait for the ink to dry completely before you attempt to spray with the clear coat lacquer or the ink will run and ruin the details. So I usually let it set up over night before applying the clear coat. But after that it works just like a regular decal. I discovered this little trick awhile back when Testors released their Custom Decal Kit which basically just had a couple of small sheets of glossy photo paper and a can of Clear Gloss Cote spray paint. So I experimented and it works exactly the same way, but I've found that Krylon Crystal Satin works best for the top clear coat. Oh and as a side note... if you want to make some transparent paint or window filler (for like a stained glass look), get yourself some Future Floor Wax and a Printer Ink Refill Kit. You'll be able to add just a drop of ink in with the Future to make the perfect transparent paint. It works great too for coloring the ends of fiber optics and white LEDs (if that's all you got to work with). If you let it sit for a little while to thicken up you can use it for a hole filler to make a hole shine as a different color.

that is brilliant I had never heard of this technique before , thank you for sharing , and with detailed break down , appreciate it

Thanks a lot bro... truly am glad to help out when I can!

 

[edspaged2]

Does anybody from the UK know if you can take out another subscription but from a much later issue? I subscribed a few months back and I am currently on issue 24 but I decided I wanted another falcon possibly for a friend back home in Australia. I bought issues 1-32 off someone on eBay....

 

[TazMan2000]

Does anybody from the UK know if you can take out another subscription but from a much later issue? I subscribed a few months back and I am currently on issue 24 but I decided I wanted another falcon possibly for a friend back home in Australia. I bought issues 1-32 off someone on eBay....

Why don't you just email them and ask? They seem to answer emails in short order on this side of the pond.

TazMan2000

 

[edspaged2]

Why don't you just email them and ask? They seem to answer emails in short order on this side of the pond.

TazMan2000

yeah I did. They're taking their time getting back. Probably getting sick of getting bombarded with emails from people enquiring about the Falcon haha. There is an option there to subscribe at any issue but I'm just being careful in case it somehow upsets their computers as I know they were having problems with their systems a few months ago and a few accounts and mine was one of them.