Daft Punk Thomas Bangalter helmet build - FINAL p.20!

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So thanks for giving me a much needed push, and keep up your awesome work.

...also, thanks for showing me how I SHOULD do things next time. Your methods always seem so logical AFTER I've seen them.

Glad my work can inspire! As for my process making any sort of "logic" - I really just try to break things down into easily manageable geometric shapes, then blend those pieces into one another. I guess thats why pep never makes any sense to me, but big blocks of foam and styrene do. Thing is, I have no idea if the things I'm doing will work in the long run, so I consider everything a new learning experience.

Amazing progress! Not sure if you check your PMs here but I sent you one the other day about getting some free chroming with Alsa ;)

Replied, and thanks for the offer but I'll probably stick with my guys over at Creations n' Chrome. Now that they've got the process down, it should be much easier going forward.

Like Nick said, I can't believe how quickly this build is going! Keep up the good work!

The beginning stages always seem faster... just wait until the inevitable primer, sanding, primer, wetsanding, etc etc etc stage...

Just curious, how thick are those pieces of styrene?

Those are .060" sheets

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Okay, so here's how I got to that step above. Nothing groundbreaking, but I like to be thorough in showing the process.

Step one was to rough up the resin on the helmet with some 60 grit paper to prep it for the bondo. Without this, the stuff would have just flaked off the surface of the urethane.

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After that, its bondo, sanding, and checking the low spots. This was all hand sanded, no machine assistance. My preferred method is to use a chunk of 6061 aluminum stock as a flat sanding block, wrapped in 60, then 80, 120 and 220 paper.

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A contour gauge helps immensely in making sure the compound curves on the helmet are as identical as possible.

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I cut out some styrene templates to show where the edges of the visor would sit on the helmet. I marked the sides and front, then used tape as a line to mark where to carve a channel for the styrene visor.

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The top and bottom visor parts are cut from .060" styrene...

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...and the distance between them is measured then cut from more styrene. These uprights are just supports keeping everything aligned right now, and will eventually be skinned over.

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You can see the slot the upper visor sits into here. The rest of the dome isn't final yet so this won't be glued in place until I've got all the little flat spots corrected. Since the whole upper part of this bucket is going to be mirror chrome, its gotta be perfect.

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A recent shot of the HAA helmet has pretty much proved to me something that Agent RayBans has been saying for a while: the ears on Thomas are a separate cast piece. With this in mind, my helmet will be made with ear cavities in that place, and the ears will be cast & chromed separately. Should I decide to add the illumination in the ears as well, this will make modifying these pieces much easier. I've got a MDF block ready to go on the lathe for those as well, so the ears will be in production soon.
 
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Loving all the Daft Punk helmets going on!!! I saw this on another forum and I didnt this I had seen it here.
 
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Hey Volpin, will those blueprints be available in high def later ? And yes, some fu**ers ripped dungbeetle files if I remember...thats bad
 
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Awesome Harrison !

Take a look at that helmet, looks great, will you do better with your tron version ? :lol

EDIT: Photo removed at the request of the owner.
 
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Great update! I'm glad to hear your decision you've made about the ears. Not that the helmet would have been any better or worse had you decided to cast it in one solid piece, I just would imagine doing the ears separately would make the main mold of the helmet less complicated!

Loving all the Daft Punk helmets going on!!! I saw this on another forum and I didnt this I had seen it here.

I made that! You flatter me sir!

Its a work in progress though, I accidentally spelled Guy-Manuel's name wrong. I'm kind of embarrassed that my draft is what got posted all over the place!

I've since been working on the final version of the chart, this is what I have so far:


Warning, huge image
 
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Every time I see some poor guy start out building Guy with spray foam and illustration board, i feel a twinge of guilt. That is, by far, the worst way I can now think of to build that form.

To anyone thats done it: I am so, so sorry.

I ended up throwing this away (was the start of a Stay Puft head) :lol

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Of course the build looks great so far. Thomas was my first prop ever, and I was always curious how someone more experienced would have tackled it.
 
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Hey Volpin, will those blueprints be available in high def later ? And yes, some fu**ers ripped dungbeetle files if I remember...thats bad

If you'd like a set, drop me an email (contact@volpinprops.net) - i keep the flickr album on lockdown though, small images only, because of the issues I've seen other builders come across.

Great update! I'm glad to hear your decision you've made about the ears. Not that the helmet would have been any better or worse had you decided to cast it in one solid piece, I just would imagine doing the ears separately would make the main mold of the helmet less complicated!

The other nice thing is I can make a "Discovery" ear and a "Tron" ear and just pop them onto different helmets too! It only takes a couple days to lathe up a new ear puck, and I've got a ton of silicone sitting around I need to use before it goes bad, so may as well mold up some new pucks and spit 'em out. I owe a LOT to Nick for doing all the ear research and posting his detailed 3D illustrations.

Speaking of the ear puck...

It started out life as a stack of MDF discs, rough cut to... around the right size.

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After a couple hours on the late, I had this! Electroma style to start with for now, the others will come later.

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After that I started on the chin. These little bits may just look like some boring innocent triangles, but maaaaaaan they took forever to get aligned correctly. I'm still slightly nervous about how well they line up, but I'll need to get a coat of filler and primer on it first before I make any decisions on what to trim.

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Quick mockup... looks the part!

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Needed to carve out sockets for the ears. These will need to be smoothed out on the inside so the ears align properly.

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Also added a sheet of 1/4" sintra across the upper and lower visor areas to keep everything straight; the .060" styrene was bowing too much as I was handling the visor, and these parts need to be perfectly level.

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Finally, a comparison of Guy and Thomas. Keep in mind Guy was created for someone who is well over 6' tall, so he's been scaled to about 105%. Thomas will be a slightly smaller piece, though still wearable by the larger folks as well.

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Great update!

Volpin, did you get an e-mail from me with some under visor references? I think I did I don't see it in my sent folder...
 
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are you also on cosplay.com my g/f thinks shes seen your work over there.
 
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Hey Harrison, it looks great, you are the man !
But why is the ''front'' ( you know,the plate ON visor) is like perpendicular to the ''head '' ?
I tought you'll fix that later ;)
You're going to put lights on ? Or just black visor ?
But if I remember, the ''non-smile'' thomas never had lights...
 
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Volpin, did you get an e-mail from me with some under visor references? I think I did I don't see it in my sent folder...

I got one from you, yes - don't know if you sent others.

are you also on cosplay.com my g/f thinks shes seen your work over there.

I have an account... but haven't updated it in months. If its "volpin" then it's me.

Hey Harrison, it looks great, you are the man !
But why is the ''front'' ( you know,the plate ON visor) is like perpendicular to the ''head '' ?
I tought you'll fix that later ;)
You're going to put lights on ? Or just black visor ?
But if I remember, the ''non-smile'' thomas never had lights...

It will have lights. I'm going to make it so that you can swap ears out, so I'll be making one that has the "smile" as well as the "Discovery" era ears and illumination. I'll also be pulling a TRON variant with the appropriate lighting. Ultimately, this is just a mold master - it can go a lot of places from here.

As for the visor... I'm getting there! I can't work THAT fast.

Small update from last night:

Finished the ear recesses slightly - added an interior cap and smoothed out the inside of the cylinder. Will need some fine-tuning to get perfectly flush, but its a base to work on

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This is something a lot of people who make Thomas miss: the upper flat "step" in the visor. I embedded a piece of styrene in the bondo layer to build this out as well as mark where the upper visor should end.

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Then I added more foam! Man... this looks stupid.

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Shaved down though, it starts to make more sense. These wedges will be skimmed over in bondo then sanded to shape.

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After this I'll start work on shaping the curved-under returns in the chin and sculpting those areas a bit as well. I need to spit out a couple more versions of the ears while I'm at it too so I can mold them all at the same time.

One question - I've been posting these pics (mostly) in 640x480 resolution. In previous threads I've tossed up 1024x768 pics, but I realize not everyone is rocking some huge monitor, so I don't want to break the forums for them. Any preferences?

1024x768 for reference:
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could always use click-able thumbnails to larger ..
bigger is better 8p
 
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This is something a lot of people who make Thomas miss: the upper flat "step" in the visor. I embedded a piece of styrene in the bondo layer to build this out as well as mark where the upper visor should end.

I figured you wouldn't miss that. There may also be a companion feature on the under-brim. Some pictures (And I can dig around if you want) seem to show what looks to be a flat step on the top of each cheek piece. Not everyone thinks they're there, though. What's your take?

Also images AS BIG AS POSSIBLE! Nerd pr0n should always be high res. :p

Quick question as well: what is your ear puck diameter?

-Nick

PS: Stop making this look so easy! Every time I see a new picture, I keep thinking "I should really do it that way." I'll give you a dollar to make it look REALLY hard. You know, posting pictures of you trying to shape the foam with a banana or a chainsaw or something. :lol
 
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Wow, you're going to be done with this thing when I get back in 2 weeks, aren't you? I can't wait to see it!
 
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There may also be a companion feature on the under-brim. Some pictures (And I can dig around if you want) seem to show what looks to be a flat step on the top of each cheek piece. Not everyone thinks they're there, though. What's your take?

Quick question as well: what is your ear puck diameter?

I'll give you a dollar to make it look REALLY hard. You know, posting pictures of you trying to shape the foam with a banana or a chainsaw or something. :lol

Hayes and I have been chatting about that under-brim piece as well. I think there is a step there, but there's so little reference its difficult to tell. For that section, I'll might have to add it in later instead of making the styrene dam like on the upper ridge.

As for the "cheeks" - it seems to me like those pieces have a very slight curve to them, at least along the upper edge. I think this curve flattens slightly as the cheek edge lowers, but I'd appreciate any commentary on that note. The chrome can play tricks on my eyes.

My ear pucks are 3.55" diameter - they're slightly oversized to allow for the slight shrinkage of the resin during casting so they'll be 3.5" when pulled (hopefully)

I should fire up a livestream one day and have you watch me work Nick. 95% of it is me making marks on my blueprints and model with my dial calipers, 3% is me drinking beer, and the remaining 2% is actual sculpting and cutting. Just because I don't post the screw-ups doesn't mean they don't happen!
 
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wow volpin
the ''on-visor'' isnt perpendicular anymore ahah !

this is an awesome idea how you did it ;)

( Remember me : KABIIL <---- excuse his POOR english...!)
 
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