Cormac's Hulk Build 2015

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  1. Cormac

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    Hi there,
    First time poster here. I've had some experience building costumes before but nothing on this scale. I'm currently working on a hulk costume. I'm using similar techniques to Biopredator in his 2012 build (see http://www.therpf.com/f78/biopredators-2012-halloween-costume-contest-entry-incredible-hulk-164942/). I won't be sticking strictly to his design however. rather than a con i'll be wearing this at halloween and may need to be fairly mobile and able to get around town. for that reason i'll be scaling back the suit.

    I have already made a good start on this. I've built up the majority foam muscles and have my booster feet made. Given that i'm a little over 6 foot tall the suit now stands at just around 7 feet tall and can squeeze through a standard door without too much trouble.

    I've taken a good number of pics as i went along so this will eventually become a WIP thread. For now though I have a few questions that need answering.

    -having read a number of old threads about builds similar to this i've found that wrapping the foam in a "skin" of fabric seems to be the way to go. They all seem to gloss over what type of cloth to use though. does anybody have any recommendations as to what to use? are there any that are particularly suitable/unsuitable for coating with latex?

    -i've never worked with liquid latex before. I've seen a lot written about people diluting it or mixing it with paint/pva glue. can anyone clarify what should i be doing in this regard for my purpose. also does anyone know how to ballpark the amount i need?

    I'd appreciate the help.
    thanks,
    Cormac
     
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  2. Cormac

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    As mentioned above here are some of my early progress pics. I won't be getting entirely up to date with this but i'll make a start.

    to begin with i bought a lightweight, spandex running top and pants. I'm living in Ireland so i went to Penneys (that's Primark in the UK) and got them for less than €10 each.

    In place of a mannequin or duct-tape double i took my wetsuit and stuffed it full of whatever i could find, old clothes, sheets, a sleeping bag etc. I figured that this would be a reasonable representation of myself. i was worried that the weight would be a bit much for the neoprene so i decided to work on solely on the upper body at first. and leave the legs empty.


    Hands
    As i was still sourcing the upholstery foam i began with the hands. I made these from grey pipe insulation and a pair of work gloves. I carved each section of foam using a combination of stanley knife blades and a swiss army knife. This was very much done by eye.
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    In the above picture you can see some of the individual fingers as well as the glove. I want this costume to be as easy to wear as possible so i carved as much foam from between the fingers as possible. i then stuffed the glove with newspaper and glued the fingers in place using my hot glue gun. I took some of my remaining foam insulation and used if to pad out the back of the hand to give it enough bulk to match the fingers. the results are below.
    glove back.JPG glove palm.JPG glove wrap 1.JPG

    The gloves are quite comfortable to wear. the fingers are a little stiff but i can still curl them into a tight fist for those all-important Hulk Smash photos. The dexterity in them isn't bad either considering. I can't tie shoes or anything but opening a door or holding a glass is pretty easy.

    You can see where i glued cloth over one finger as a test. i'm happy with the results as you can still see some of the detail but the rough edges are hidden.

    this is as far as they have progressed for the moment. I'll continue the cloth wrap once i'm happy that the scale matches the rest of the costume.

    Upper body
    I was still waiting on my upholstery foam so i progressed as far as i could with the pipe insulation. I used this to create a base for my forearms. A series of cuts along the length of the foam allowed me to open it out until it wrapped around the forearm of my mannequin. this foam is reasonably sturdy so i was able to extend out beyond my elbow.
    forearm grey 1.JPG forearm grey 2.JPG

    The hands look a little over-sized at this point but more mass will be added to the arm soon.

    After the second arm I began work on the abdomen. Very simply put i cut out lengths of insulation foam and rounded the ends. These formed the 6-pack and (what might be called) the obliques. a flat side was cut into each of these to make gluing to the shirt easier. This was done with a glue gun.

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    Apologies for the sideways pics.
    This shows the upper body as i left it before sourcing upholstery foam.


    This is as far as i have time to get at the moment. More to follow tomorrow.


    If anybody can help with the questions in the first post i'd appreciate it.

    Thanks for reading.

     
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  3. harrisonp

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    Re: Hulk Build + skin questions

    Have you watched the indymogul/backyard FX video for making a muscle suit? Worth a look and could be helpful for your build. Either way looks like you're off to a great start.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj1t_ZdDv-s
     
  4. Cormac

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    Hi Harrissonp,

    I hadn't actually seen that one. I was looking at this though : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQyejurdtCI
    It's much the same. probably a bigger budget and a bit more care gone into it.

    I'll get the progress pictures for the rest of the torso up after work tomorrow hopefully.
     
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    Here we go again. in this post i'll hope to get up to date on the upper body.

    By this point i had sourced some upholstery foam and spray adhesive. In terms of value my best option was to buy a single large sheet of 1" foam. This was roughly 2.5m x 2.5 and cost €35. The spray glue I got is called "Moff stick" and has given very good results.

    I followed a similar technique to Biopredator at this point. I decided to begin by blocking out the torso. This involved cutting out a rough shape for each before attaching to the running top. once i had the blocks attached I began carving the form of the muscles.
    I would say at this point that i quickly learned to ensure that the glue is totally dry before attempting to cut the foam. Otherwise your blade will just become clogged.

    Following the chest i added trusses to the arms/shoulder and the back. these blocked out the overall shape and gave me an idea of the kind of size each muscle needed to be.

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    From here it was a case of attaching roughly cut sections of foam and carving them to give the desired shape. The trick here was to add the majority of the material to the outside of the arm. as a result the perceived centre line of the costumes arm is the outside of the wearer's arm. This adds bulk while keeping it relatively comfortable to wear.
    In order to make the arms look longer than they are I was trying to create the impression that the hulk's arms are slightly bent while my own are straight. This meant adding quite a lot of material to the back of the arm.
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    The same process went for the other arm and then the back. With the back i deliberately left hollow channels beneath the surface. These will eventually allow me to channel air through the suit to help cooling. I imagine a couple of laptop fans and some cleverly disguised gaps in the skin will allow me to keep a decent air-flow through the costume.



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    you can see the shape developing on the back in the final picture. I then cut the back open down the centre to allow me to get into the costume.
    The rest was just a lot of carving and smoothing. The results can be seen below.
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    I'm pretty happy with the results so far. I'm sure there'll be more smoothing as i begin to put the skin over the foam. I'm interest to see how this behaves. I don;t really know how good it will be at taking the rough edges off the foam. I may have to use more than one layer of cloth on some of the sharper pieces to give a realistic appearance.

    This is as far as i have gotten with the upper body. it's comfortable to wear and gives a good range of motion. To give an idea of bulk, If i try to walk straight through a standard door the shoulders catch a little. However none of the costume is so far from my body that it becomes clumsy and unwieldy.

    tomorrow i'll do the write-up of the feet and legs so far.

    Again if anyone can help with the questions in the first post i'd appreciate it.

    Thanks for reading,
    Cormac
     

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  6. Cormac

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    Hello again,
    Hopefully this post will get me up to date and this can be a WIP thread from now on.

    I'll cover the legs and the feet to date in this post.
    The legs were done in much the same way as the arms. By this point i was able to remove the upper section from the wetsuit mannequin and could stuff the legs. I put the running pants on the dummy and made a pair of trusses to give the outline of the legs. Like with the arms i wanted to add width as well as giving the impression that the hulks legs were bent slightly while mine are straight. For this reason i added quite a lot of foam behind the ankles and lower thigh and the front of the knee. My leg now goes through what looks like the calf muscle. In order to make walking easier most of the material was kept to the outside of the legs. Again there was a lot of sticking and carving with stanley blades and my swiss army knife.

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    You'll notice that i'm currently stopping a little above the knee. At the moment I have a different plan for the upper legs. I have a pair of field hockey goalie shorts that should add enough bulk to the thighs. I figure since these will be covered by the torn pants anyway it should look fine. I also know that i can comfortably walk and sit down in them without any problems. I was worried that if i sat on something i had made the glue foam could come away.
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    These shorts can also be opened up from the front using the velcro flaps and take off without having to pull your legs through them. This should make suiting up on the day a little easier.


    I figure i need to add at least 8 inches to my height if i want to look properly imposing. To make my booster shoes I bought three of the foam mats that are used to kneel on while gardening. they were about an inch thick each. I took an old pair of shoes that i had lying around and cut the sole off of them. I cut a series of section from the foam mats and began building up the platforms. the first sections fit nicely inside the soles of the shoes. After that i expanded them by an inch or so to make the platform more stable.

    It may not be entirely clear from the photos that i have but i added more height to the heel of the shoe than the front. This means that i'll be standing slightly on my toes. As well as giving me an extra inch of height without compromising balance this also makes my foot fit better inside the shape of the Hulk's.
    booster shoe skirt.JPG booster shoes.JPG IMG_3305.JPG IMG_3306.JPG

    I secured these together using an awful lot of hot glue as well as the black straps you can see in the photos. After this i screwed and glued an old pair of trainers to the up of the platform.

    From here i began cutting out foam profiles of the foot and building the shape. I left a gap in the foam to allow access to the laces of the shoes. I'll have to be careful while covering this with latex to allow access later.

    booster shoes side view.JPG booster shoes feet 1.JPG
    I decided to arch the foot to give the impression that the Hulk was standing on the balls of his feet. I think this will suit the kind of dynamic crouch that i'm trying to pose the costume in. It also means that the foot can be less bulky and fits my scale better.


    So that's as far as i've gotten so far. I'll post my progress as i go now. Hopefully I should have a decent update every week or so.
     

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  7. Venomsuit

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    Jaw drop!
    This is amazing!
     
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  8. Contec

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    Good work on the suit, i know how hard it can be making it look like muscles. A few advices for you : Drink loads of fluid before wearing this suit, You are not going to need to pee, It is going to be hot as hell, and your body is going to freak out. See to it that you have a friend that can keep an eye on you if you pass out. I nearly did in my musclesuit that i built for my Thorin Oakenshield cosplay.
     
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  9. Cormac

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    Thanks a lot! but seriously look at the one built by biopredator. There's a link to it in the first post. It's a shame he doesn't seem too active on here anymore. I'd like to ask him a few questions.


    Yeah that's something that i've been giving a bit of thought. I'm considering a few options to try to cool it. I'm definitely going to try to use some very light green fabric in areas like under the arms. I'll won't latex/paint these areas. I'll see how much of the under-shirt i can cut away from the inside too without compromising it. If i get ambitious i might try something fancy like possibly piping air though a length of garden hose of something.
     
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    So i've been experimenting with different types of fabric to skin the costume with.
    I tried using spandex/tights but found that it let too many of the rough edges of the foam show through. rahter than spend the next eight months of my life trying to smooth all of these out i began by trapping the legs in regular cotton. this was held on with spray glue and did a reasonable job of smoothing out the surface.

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    once i was happy with this coat I took my knife and cut through the fabric above and below the knee-cap. This allowed the leg to bend freely.i also made a cut up the inside of the leg to allow the running pants to stretch as i put them on.

    After this I took a pair of tights and stretched them over the legs. i made sure to keep some slack near the joints to keep the flexibility. once i as happy with the positioning I cut the tights above and below the area i needed to cover. I rolled back each end and used spray glue to secure them where they needed to be. I was a little worried that they would start to tear/unravel so i used some hot glue along the edges.
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    The legs turned out pretty well I think. I also did the arms in the same way but forgot to get any good pictures.
    I'm stating to feel how warm the finished product is going to be. This could get interesting. At lest I'll have an Irish October working in my favor.
     
  11. Override

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    Great build so far Cormac! I would suggest trying a thin upholstery foam layer to help with the muscles. When I skinned the Juggernaut with the foam it created a VERY lifelike sillouette. I have seen a few builds that went with the "super bubbley ripped muscles" and the proportions don't translate well to costumes. Using the foam layer will smoothout the muscles and still give you the definition that you want. I say all this out of respect for your build cause I love it!
     
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    I tried looking for that but 1 inch is the best i can get around here. I'm working on using a thicker fabric and softening the edges with that before giving it a final skin. fingers crossed
     
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    It's looks awesome! I can't wait to see the finished product!
     
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    Thanks Pinkratgirl. Me neither.

    I did some more work this evening and it seemed to work out well enough.

    I used the blue cloth which is from an old blanket to cover each of the muscles and round off the edges. I had already covered this up on the chest when i remembered that i was meant to be taking photos. I worked my way down using a combination of spray adhesive and hot glue. the glue gun was mostly used around the edges and in the groves to stop the cloth from lifting.
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    The thicker fabric did a decent job of evening out some of the rough edges of the foam as well as reducing the depth of the muscles. By hope here would be that by now putting some thinner fabric on top of this i can get a similar effect to if i had used a layer of thinner upholstery foam.

    I got a little impatient and didn;t bother going out to buy a second tshirt of the same colour. I found some more light material lying around and ploughed ahead.
    I did my best to hide the transition between the two panels of cloth in the folds of the muscle. it turned out better than in the picture below. I am hoping that the latex is as forgiving as i need it to be.
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    I'm at a stage now where i cans see this coming together. I think it's the green cloth that'a making the difference.
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    It does seem to be shrinking a little as i go though.I'm hoping this is just an illusion because of the different colours. we'll see.
     

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    So today i did a bit more work on the Hulk. I had found that it was getting harder to get into the upper part of the costume. I adjusted the way that the under-arms were coated. Now i think i can afford to cut away some of the under-shirt once the latex is applied. there's not much of a visual change there so i won't bore you with photos.

    I did manage to get both hands skinned. I ended up using a lot of socks to do this. they were just what was on hand. I'm not totally thrilled with how they turned out. I may still end up re-doing these. I'll see how they look after the latex starts to go on.

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    After this i just have to finish the second foot before i can start the final coatings.

    As always contributions are welcome.
    Thanks for reading.
     
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    I started with the latex today. This is a totally alien material to me so I had a few surprises. Firstly it was much thinner than i was expecting. in my mind it was more like PVA glue. I found that it would soak into the fabric much more than i was expecting. My hope is that that's just the first coat and future layers will build up more. I need it to really. There's a few seams that could do with being hidden.

    I only had one litre to play with for the time being. I managed to give the upper body one good coat and most of the front a second. I''m going to start mixing the acrylic paint into the latex for future layers. It's setting over night now so hopefully the results in the morning are encouraging.
     
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    Just to be honest, I am glad you got to this stage before me! Not alot of tutorials about coating foam suits in latex. I know that some puppeting sites have said to seal the foam with spray glue like 3M 74 spray http://www.amazon.com/3M-74-Spray-A...35698367&sr=8-1&keywords=3M+spray+adhesive+74

    Would you mind uploading some pictures of the suit curing? I am very curious to see how the layers build up and how much strength/ flexability the latex retains. great work man!
     
  18. Cormac

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    Yeah sure. I don't know how much use these are but you're more than welcome to them.

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    That's after one good coat I'll let you know tomorrow evening how it cures.

    I did a little test piece of foam to see how it wwould behave on different fabrics with glue etc. it seemed to work fine. It goes very yellow as it cures.

    I also thought it would be a good idea to stuff the arms as much as possible as i've read a bit about latex shrinking as it sets.
     
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    So painting is i little difficult. you can see the paint I bought here. I was going for a the kind of dull green from the movies. I thought the paint i had picked looked like a good match.

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    It seems to spread very differently though. It comes out very yellow. I'm not sure what I can do about this. Tomorrow i'm going to go buy some "emerald green", Hopefully i can mix that with this and get a better result.

    I tried adding a little black to see how it would react. you can see the results on the right arm.

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    I'll see how it turns out when dry.
     

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    I like the color so far! Be careful about adding shading when painting the suit. Small layers and a light touch will make it more realistic
     
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    So after much experimenting, mishaps and frustration i have something i'm happy with. I've got pictures i can share of the upper body.

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    The colour isn't actually what i had in mind but i'm really starting to like it. The coats of latex have built up enough to hide some of the creases while keeping the muscle definition the way i wanted it.


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    This was my first test fit since I put any type of latex/ paint on it. I'm pretty thrilled with how it fits. I found that if i hold the back of the suit together the abdominal section tightens up a lot and makes it look much more accurate. I'm going to attach a buckle to make this fit better.

    So here's the How-To. Note:there may be some over-lap in the beginning with the previous post. Also this is the shortened "how it should have gone" version. In reality a few of these steps were repeated for any number of reasons. you can see three of the different shades i ended up with along the way in the pictures below.

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    First off i gave the whole body a coat of latex. This fist coat soaks in a lot so i was quite heavy with it. I found it was taking a long time to cure so i left it over night.

    Next came 2 coats of a latex/acrylic paint mixture. These were heavily weighted towards the latex.I would say 70/30 At this point i wanted to make sure it would have a solid base while also beginning to cover up some of the different colours of the fabric. This is what lead to the very yellow pictures in the previous post.

    After this i focused on getting the colour right. This time the mixture was in roughly the opposite proportions. Perhaps even 80/20 paint/latex. light coats of this was enough to give me a good base.

    At this stage i used my glue gun to create some details such as veins and nipples. I found that the mixed paint wouldn't adhere to the glue so i gave each vein one coat of plain acrylic paint. once this was dry i did one more coat of the base colour.

    I then took some of this same paint/latex mixture and added some extra yellow. I used this to give some highlights. I did each muscle with one light coat of this.

    Then i proceeded to add a little more yellow and quite a lot more latex to the same mix. I used this to do some of the finer highlights and to make certain areas stand out.


    Top tips:
    Latex absolutely stinks when wet. It's the ammonia. You really do need to work in a ventilated area. I wore a standard dust mask which seemed to help but i'd recommend a respirator if you have one.

    the latex is opaque while it's wet but dries almost clear. For this reason you should mix your paints first until it looks right. then add the latex. It will look way too light going on but when it dries it should return to the colour of the paint. this can be very unnerving but have faith.

    as Override says above, Light coats are the key for shading/ highlights. I found that adding more latex to the mix helped too as it made the coats of colour thinner and easier to control.

    when painting many parts of a costume like i was and with paint that you have mixed yourself make sure to mix big batches that can cover any parts that will be seen together. Otherwise you'll give yourself all kinds of problems trying to get them to match.

    Similarly when doing highlights/ lowlights make sure you start from the base colour and lighten/darken from there. This makes the change seem natural rather than patchy.

    Keep the brushes you want to use submerged in soapy water between coats. they'll be ruined eventually but this can help them last a few coats.

    Finally make sure that any fabric that may need to stretch is either kept free from latex/paint or is held in it's stretched position while it sets.



    As i write this the legs and feet are setting. the hands will need to be re-made as they became way too inflexible once the paint went on. I'm working on a new design for them.


    As always,
    Thanks for reading.
     

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    It's looking great so far. If I can offer one suggestion though - it looks to me like you made the nipples a little too close to the middle of the pecs.
     
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    Thanks. I'd be inclined to agree with you about those. Although there's not much i can do at this stage.
    I was being careful to make them symmetrical and they kind of wandered in. It's weird though because they seem to follow me around the room.
     
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    :) I've been following your build closely since I need to do something similar for my upcoming rhino build. Although rather than latex, I think I may use tinted vyta flex rubber to skin my foam. That way it matches the cowl. I've done some tests and it holds up really well once applied to the foam. And although it's more expensive, I'm hoping it pays off in the long run since I shouldn't need to worry about o going repairs/durability which tends to be an issue with latex.
     
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    I am really impressed with your suit man. especially in the time frame that you built it.
     
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    I've never worked with Vyta flex rubber but i'm assuming it works in a similar way. is it as flexible as the latex is?

    And thanks Override. I'm surprised by how quickly it's going. I'm waiting for a major road block. it might be the hands. I'm struggling a little with a new design.
     
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    It's very flexible depending on the type you use - the lower the shore value, the thinner/more flexible it is. Most of the cowls in the JY use around a 40 shore and it holds up really well. Also very easy to tint wahtever colour you want.
     
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    Interesting I'll keep that in mind for future reference. Latex just seemed like the main thing used for this kind of costume.

    I've had to re-do the hands as they became too in-flexible and clumsy. The new design is a little like a kind of mitten where all of the fingers are connected and the thumb is independent. The fingers are attached along the back of the palm with glue. then the fingers have a number of loops that i can un-hook my fingers from if i need to. I've also designed it so that the fingers rest in a slightly bent position. this makes it easier to make a fist.

    I'll throw up some pictures this evening.
     
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    So this it my new design for the hands. it seems much more flexible and i can easily pick things up and make a fist. this evening i painted another couple of coats of the base colour over the veins and got the second hand to a similar stage. I'm out of yellow paint so tomorrow i'll get more and i should be able to do the highlights. after that i'll start on the finger and toenails.

    It's quite scary now that i can see the end approaching.
     
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    So I could use some advice from all of you good folk out there in the internet. I need to come up with a system to strap the back of the suit closed. As it stands there is a flap of material there to cover the gap but i need to tighten around my waist in order to hold it in shape when i move.

    Has anyone any thoughts as to how i can secure this in such a way that i will be able to open and close it myself without having to ask for help. Any advice is much appreciated.

    the hands and feet have been finished now so once i have the strapping sorted i can show some pics of the (very nearly almost) finished costume.

    please and thank you,
    Cormac
     
  31. Override

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    Hey Cormac. I plan on using a zipper for Juggernaut. I have learned with several of my previous costumes that sometimes you have to bite the bullet and let the zipper show. I have used:
    Velcro- Works wonderfully but will either 1. rip the material it is attached to. or 2. become "puffy" when stuck together and create a 1/2 inch rise in the seam.
    Magnets- Works great but same as 1. above. unless it is used in hard material, eventually the materical will fail and either the magnet will come out or the material will rip.
    Straps-N-Buckles- I used this for Warmachine. very customizable and cheap. works best for armor peices that need to "stay put". Difficult to hold things tightly closed or in the exact same spot.

    For those reasons, I am going to try a zipper to see if it will work without damaging the suit.
     
  32. Cormac

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    A zip would be the neatest thing to do alright. it would mean that i'd need help getting into it though. I reckon if i was to make the suit over i'd split it under one of the arms and kind of climb in through there.

    I don't think a zip is an option for me at this stage. I haven't left myself enough loose material on one side to stitch anything in place.

    I'm currently imagining a strap around the waist that i can tighten with perhaps a diagonal strap to secure some of the upper back. A bit like a backwards seat belt.
     
  33. widescreen

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    Have a look how Wet suits are made. they have a zip at the back and a string attched to it so you can pull the zip up yourself.
    Then just hide the string down the inside of the costume before putting on the mask.
     
  34. Cormac

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    yeah i had thought about that too. I actually used a wetsuit earlier in the build (as a mannequin). I would need to find a very sturdy zip to use. There will be a lot of force on it. I also worry what this would do in terms of heat. It would totally seal me into the suit. At least with straps there's more scope to have vents etc. If i do wo with this kind of system i'd be inclined to do it the other way up and have the zip open from the bottom. It's worth considering though. I'll visit a store tomorrowand see what kind of zips i have access to.

    I'm sure there's a clever strap solution there too but i just can't see it.
     
  35. widescreen

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    YKK are a very good zip manufacturer & stay with a metal one for heavy duty use.
    Heat in a suit like this is alway going to be excessive. I think the technical term is 'sweating your nuts off'.
    I agree with starting the zip at the bottom - makes the first alignment easier.

    An idea for the strap would be to use elastic - that way it would stretch to make it easier to get in & out of, but would close up once you have it on. I'd also suggest a green undershirt so if it does part/open when wearing it anyone behind you wouldn't notice too much.
     
  36. Cormac

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    It will need to be a very strong elastic in that case. Honestly the main issue is that i've got the sizing a little wrong. I think 's at least partly due to shrinkage and partly due to incompetence. I'll see how it goes looking for the zip today.
     
  37. Cormac

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    quick update. I've bought and attached a zip to the costume. It works quite well. I'll need to attach a string/strap to it to make sure i can work it myself. I'll throw up some pictures once i get a chance to fully suit up. I'm worried now that i didn't leave enough length in the torso to go into the waist of the jeans. I may end up having to velcro these together too prevent parting.
     
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  38. Crimsonbat

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    Re: Hulk Build + skin questions

    This is great, I'm attempting a similar suit as well. Keep up the good work and updates!
     
  39. Cormac

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    Things have gone a little quiet at the minute. I should have left more material at the bottom of the torso to help bridge the gap between the two. at the moment it looks ok when i'm standing but if i start to move around and bend at all you can see large gaps. So the current issue is creating a "skirt". I'm painting a strip of cloth to match the torso. This will be attached to the bottom of the torso and be tucked into the jeans.

    trying to match the colour is a little tricky but since it will be hidden most of the time it doesn't have to be perfect.

    It's drying at home so hopefully i can attach it tonight. I might be just about ready to do a full suit up then.
     
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  40. biopredator

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    Cormac,
    Looking good, it is a lot of work to sculpt the foam. We just used the cheapest fabric we could find that was thick enough to hide imperfections. If you use a thin sheet it will show most of the rough edges through the fabric. For the top and bottom halves we left an overlap that we could velcro them together. It makes it hotter but really makes it look and move a lot better.

    I know this is late and I apologize for it. I have been very occupied with work. I will watch for questions if you have anymore. The Hulk build burned me out on Costuming for a bit but this year I am going to build a Dark Knight Costume for a good friend of mine and I have a bunch of supplies on order and in route. :) it will be great fun!
     
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  41. Cormac

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    Thanks!! your build has been a big help. It's been a road map for most of the hulk builds on here. (i'm fan-girling)

    My costume is more or less ready now. I'm going with facepaint rather than a mask so i won;t fully suit up until halloween. I'll throw up the pictures then.
    My friends were meant to be doing the other avengers but they seem to have fallen behind. not sure how this is going to play out.
     
  42. biopredator

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    Good to hear. I noticed there were several builds. It is cool to see them all.
     
  43. motorhead

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    first off-lovin your build!!
    secondly-how much latex do you think you used in total? i'm starting a similar build and just in process of ordering latex to use later, and wondering how much I should order-and maybe what brand did you utilize?
    can't wait to see your finished build!!
    cheers!
     
  44. Cormac

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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    Hi Motorhead,
    Thanks very much.
    The latex i used is called "mouldmaker". That's just what my local art supplies store had. I bought a 4 litre container of it. I probably have a little under half left. I had no idea either so i aimed high.

    I hope i'm not too late with this. Good luck with the build.
     
  45. draden77

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    This is amazing! I may have missed it, but what are you using for the head/face?
     
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    Re: Hulk Build *need help with straps*

    Thanks Draden. I actually just painted my face. a mask would have been way too inconvenient/warm.

    I've been putting off finishing this thread for a few days. I'll put up some of the final pics after work today.
     
  47. Cormac

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    Ok so two full weeks later i'm finally getting around to this. I figured i should close this off before i start my starlord build.
    I wish i had taken more pictures on the night but here's what i have of the finished costume. apologies for the quality of some of them.


    hope you enjoy:
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