Edwardowan
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it was order 65 :lol
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it was order 65 :lol
Mara Jade's Father
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Well I did address it right after you asked the first time.
http://www.therpf.com/f47/clone-wars-weekly-discussion-thread-74463/index33.html#post2779432
It was a nice long answer so maybe you just looked at it and felt sleepy.
let me sum it up.Short answer - no
Long answer - yes with a "but"
Riceball
Master Member
Well I did address it right after you asked the first time.
http://www.therpf.com/f47/clone-wars-weekly-discussion-thread-74463/index33.html#post2779432
It was a nice long answer so maybe you just looked at it and felt sleepy.
Short answer - no
Long answer - yes with a "but"
If that's, no, Palpy didn't have a hand in it then why would the clones, esp. Rex, be lying about Ahsoka? How was Barriss able to kill the prisoner if she wasn't provided with either a means of sneaking in or some means of knowing exactly where she was being held, I don't think that even Vader or Palpy could Force choke someone sight unseen with only a general location of where that person is.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
He wasn't.
She did and obviously she can.
And this is directed to everyone... if that still is something you cannot believe, listen to what Irvin Kershner says about Star Wars in the first minute of this video: Michel Parbot Empire Strikes Back lost documentary excerpts... - YouTube
I think it is a real shame fans try to make Star Wars into Star Trek.
Riceball
Master Member
He wasn't? I could've sworn that when Anakin arrived on scene at Ahsoka's break out he told the clones something about Ahsoka not being a threat and not to worry and then after he leaves Rex proceeds to say something completely different about how dangerous she is, killing clones during her escape and stuff like that while just before he was telling the garrison commander how unlike Ahsoka this all was and how she was good to go.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Go here: "The Jedi Who Knew Too Much" - The Clone Wars Episode Guide | StarWars.com and start watching around the 13:15 minute mark.
What I take from the exchange is that Rex is more trusting of Fox's reports that he is from her experience. Rex is not told to capture her alive at this point.
Although we might think it is weird for Rex, a Clone who has fought by her side in battle to show more compassion, I think it is safe to say from how Order 66 is enacted without question that Clones have a single minded attitude to duty. Rex orders an all points bulletin on her the same he would have one any escaped prisoner that is suspected of killing 3 troopers.
- Rex initially defends her to Fox at first but Fox insists it was her.
- Anakin tells Rex to order the search.
- Rex orders the search notifying the Clones that she has killed 3 troopers and is armed and dangerous.
What I take from the exchange is that Rex is more trusting of Fox's reports that he is from her experience. Rex is not told to capture her alive at this point.
Although we might think it is weird for Rex, a Clone who has fought by her side in battle to show more compassion, I think it is safe to say from how Order 66 is enacted without question that Clones have a single minded attitude to duty. Rex orders an all points bulletin on her the same he would have one any escaped prisoner that is suspected of killing 3 troopers.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
jme3
Sr Member
^Before I open it up, is this anything to do with spoilers or just general, "hopeful" insight into her character?
Ok, I'll agree with that 100%.
Edwardowan
Sr Member
awesome... and yes, if there was any more confusion or doubt by others in this thread its right there: "Though Eckstein recorded Ahsoka’s departure from the Order some time ago, George Lucas himself stepped in to make crucial rewrites to the script. These were changes that tightened the focus on Ahsoka’s decision to leave and made it clear that her choice came from a place of strength, not fear."
No, actually I don't. Anyone who says that the path away from the Jedi could lead to a bright future is not George Lucas. Remember, GL is the guy who glorified the character of Yoda, the one Jedi who is so closed minded and anti-everything that whenever the opportunity to show that maybe he was wrong in his ways, the story never goes there. Lucas portrays Yoda as a character who is never wrong.
Need I mention Padme, the only female character of any value in his entire prequel trilogy? He made her into a love obsessed coward who couldn't go on living without her selfish, genocidal, child murdering husband.
If there are great moments in Clone Wars that you honestly believe were thanks to him, where the heck were those moments in the material he wrote and directed himself?
No. I think Star Wars is sending conflicting messages.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Based on your previous comments, I am more inclined to believe it is more of a problem of you being able to understand the show rather than the series or LFL being the problem.
Anyhow, for those who have been able to grasp the show, here is some more interesting reading...
E-Mails Between Master & Padawan About Ahsoka?s Decision | Star Wars Blog
jme3
Sr Member
Riceball
Master Member
As in if it contains spoilers from the season finale? Yes.
jme3
Sr Member
Riceball
Master Member
Alright, I rewatched the scene in question and while I'll agree that it's not a case of Rex outright lying but I do think that his APB was questionable at best. When he first arrives on scene with Anakin Fox is going on how she killed 2 troopers and all to which both Anakin defend Ahsoka and Rex even goes on to say he doesn't quite believe it and that it's unlike Ahsoka. Then what happens after Anakin leaves telling Rex to issue an APB, he pretty much repeats what Fox accuses Ahsoka of saying that she's killed 3 troopers, not suspected of but did kill 3 troopers, and is not presumed to be armed and dangerous but is armed and dangerous.
I guess the only real way to be absolutely certain of whether Rex was being honest but literal or if there was some sort of Order 66 type thing in action would be why didn't Anakin issue the APB himself? Did Anakin not have a comm link on him? If so then shades of Order 66 is possible, if not then Rex is in the clear because if Anakin did have his comm link on him then he obviously would have heard Rex's APB and would have probably questioned Rex on the wording of his APB.
On another note, anybody catch the name of the clone commande with the green armor? I thought that the looked pretty cool and would to get either a figure of him or (some day) re-create his armor.
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