Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Post-release)

[Bigdaddy]

Because of this....

It's an insane possibility because it'd never happen. How do you address creative differences given they're all in their own cinematic universes with their own creative heads, producers & etc? How do you allocate revenues across 3 studios? Can you quantify with any degree of confidence what share of box office is attributed to the Avengers vs Spider-Man vs X-Men? What about cost sharing for production and marketing? People talk about such a crossover 'cuz they like the idea, but underneath there's just too much to overcome to make this a reality.

Also think about this from a studio head's perspective - if I take the Avengers and add in Spider-Man and X-Men, does that really give me a $3B movie? Of course not, unless you believe the same people will go to the movies 2-3x more often than they would for the Avengers alone. The studios would probably save money on production and post-production overhead, but their biggest cost will be the actors and their pay doesn't get smaller so the cost synergies are not going to be significant. So if the sum of parts is less than each individual franchise, why go through all that trouble for a smaller return?

Only one viable option remains...

Isn't Disney like the Umbrella Corporation? Couldn't they just buy the rights back from Fox and Sony... or systematically kill the executive board of each company and replace them with animatronic doubles?

 

[dascoyne]

If .... I mean ... when they do Civil War it's going to create a rift in my house.
My wife has been gaga over RDJ since his early career - and thinks he's hotter and more charming than ever as Tony Stark.

I'm more of a Cap fan - especially because I've read the Civil War series. But I also loved The First Avenger which was a poignant story about an underdog who literally sacrificed everything he ever cared for in the path of principle - tragically he never even got to see the end of war. Evans as Cap is a lot like James Stewart for me.

In the Avengers, when RDJ suited up in mid-air, my wife was ribbing me saying, "See? You can't tell me Iron Man isn't the most badass Avenger!" I'm almost certain she'll side with him regardless of what he represents.

It's gonna be interesting when I have to side against her with Civil War.

 

[Kevin Gossett]

I'm going to have a civil war within myself because I like them both! :lol

 

[MFP 2020]

Finally saw it last Friday by myself at a matinee. Thoughts from the afterglow:

As the kids say, CA:TWS is full of win. Timely and resonant. Great cameos (not just Stan Lee, but the museum narrator as well). Emily Vancamp: never hotter. Love that they brought Sebastian Stan back (I thought they'd replaced the original actor). Frank Grillo was pretty good, but they should have just gotten Eric Bana. I'm crushing on Chris Evans pretty hard right now. On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it an 11. I need a cigarette.

I found the music serviceable but not memorable. Then I bought the soundtrack and found it awesome. I liked CA:TFA a lot. I LOVE TWS.

 

[Laspector]

Why is he called the Winter Soldier anyway?

 

[Celtic007]

I found the music serviceable but not memorable. Then I bought the soundtrack and found it awesome. I liked CA:TFA a lot. I LOVE TWS.

I really like it as well, reminds me of The Dark Knight soundtrack in a good way. The Winter Soldier's track is like Why So Serious? from Zimmer. Its uneasy sounding and tense and really works for the character.

 

[dascoyne]

Why is he called the Winter Soldier anyway?

Maybe it's a reference to his activity as a Cold War assassin. John Le Carré also played on the term with his novel, The Spy Who Came In From The Cold.

Or it could be just because he gets "put on ice" between missions.


Most likely, "Bucky the Assassin," wasn't working out for the Russians.

 

[dbalschi]

Why is he called the Winter Soldier anyway?

I always assumed it was because he was primarily used by the Soviets during the Cold War.

 

[sapper36]

It refers to Thomas Paine's quote in "The Crisis" from the American Revolution. The winter Soldier is dedicated and doesn't shirk his duty, the summer soldier & sunshine patriot can't be counted on - or alternatively they are all hat & no cattle!

Clearly the "Winter Soldier" gets the job done no excuses.

So in the famous passage from "The Crisis" where Thomas Paine wrote:

The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country​

 

[Laspector]

Okay, now that makes sense. I was one of those that figured it had to do with the Cold war or being frozen, also. I like your explaination better. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Vivek]

Our Cinepolis multiplex was having a 3D movie festival with re-release of some current and older movies. So was glad to catch the movie for the third and last time on the big screen. Despite knowing how the story unfolds, the movie was still gripping and entertaining all the way .

 

[crabra comander]

Damn you Marvel, CA:WS wins the year for blockbuster iconic characters because he has a deeper meaning than everyone else. Now if GOTG has a good message like Cap did, Marvel is just running away with the win.

 

[ichnob]

Was wondering if anyone got the digital only version since it is out today in North America. Personally will be waiting for the physical release, but I'm interested if anyone has any reviews on the bonus material included.

 

[Laspector]

When does the dvd/blu ray come out?

 

[glunark]

ITs already out.

 

[Vivek]

It's available digitally but will be available on Blu-ray on September 9. And then there is the following.

Captain America The Winter Soldier Blu-ray Pre-Orders Blocked By Amazon-Disney Dispute - CinemaBlend.com

 

[glunark]

I guess we got it before you then in the UK.

Not a lot of extras on our bluray though, and no marvel one shot this time.

 

[niennumb1]

I bought mine on VUDU, but am absolutely livid by how cruddy of service the app provides on both the XB One and XB 360. I have plenty of bandwidth to receive HDX quality, but the app is sooooo buggy. Signs me out, service randomly disconnects, stalls.... From doing further research it looks like it's going on with everyone as well.

It just blows my mind that these powerful gaming systems and VUDU are just not talking to each other well and that they have dropped the ball so bad on making a stable app. I bit the bullet though and decided to get a ROKU 3 since they seem to be incredibly reliable and specifically built for media streaming.

I have a home theater with 7.1 and 100" projector screen and it just really ruins the movie experience when you get that dang loading ring rotating and stalling. I will be getting the physical media Blu-Ray as well to enjoy, but just wanted to watch Winter Soldier so bad again. Easily one of the best movies of the year and arguably one of the top Marvel films to-date.

 

[charades]

Wait what? I must have missed the Hill/Stark thing?

Isn't Disney like the Umbrella Corporation? Couldn't they just buy the rights back from Fox and Sony... or systematically kill the executive board of each company and replace them with animatronic doubles?

Life Model Decoys!

 

[rodneyfaile]

I bought mine on VUDU, but am absolutely livid by how cruddy of service the app provides on both the XB One and XB 360. I have plenty of bandwidth to receive HDX quality, but the app is sooooo buggy. Signs me out, service randomly disconnects, stalls.... From doing further research it looks like it's going on with everyone as well.

It just blows my mind that these powerful gaming systems and VUDU are just not talking to each other well and that they have dropped the ball so bad on making a stable app. I bit the bullet though and decided to get a ROKU 3 since they seem to be incredibly reliable and specifically built for media streaming.

I have a home theater with 7.1 and 100" projector screen and it just really ruins the movie experience when you get that dang loading ring rotating and stalling. I will be getting the physical media Blu-Ray as well to enjoy, but just wanted to watch Winter Soldier so bad again. Easily one of the best movies of the year and arguably one of the top Marvel films to-date.

The VUDU app works great for me on the PS3. Thinking of getting a PS4 soon, still not sure.

I use VUDU, Netflix, Amazon Prime, HULU, and a few HD cable channels. They all look pretty decent, but I have noticed the bluray always looks a bit better. Gotta love the convenience of streaming and digital copies though.