Captain America Costume Discussion

Normal people should not wear superhero outfits. Please, just don't. Unless you've spent years at the gym...and even then sometimes...just don't.

First off, NO SPANDEX. Spandex actually sucks for superhero costumes because it DOESN'T allow for much definition. It always looks like "Wow, what a crappy costume. Why can't they make it look like the comicbooks?"

Second, I think a "wings" version could work, BUT it has to be done properly, and the headpiece is one of the hardest to do realistically. The material has to be thin enough to allow for emoting and movement (IE: no '89 Batman rubber), but thick enough that it won't look floppy or lose its shape.

Third, I think that they ought to consider using the kind of material they did for Superman Returns. Say what you will about the film itself, but Brandon Routh's costume WORKED. It looked real, not fakey, fit him well, looked appropriately "superhero-ish", and I thought it did a great job of conveying Superman to the screen.

You'd need something similar for Cap. Going the X-men route won't work because Cap is, as has been stated, a public figure and someone who is supposed to be a larger-than-life walking piece of propaganda. That's part of what makes his transformation into "The Captain" so meaningful when it happens.

Really, though, the key to any Cap film will be good casting, a fantastic script, and good direction. It has to be done seriously, not as some campy romp, not as some "for the kids" kind of film, and not "made more modern and hip for today's audiences." It's gotta be timeless, not rooted in a particular era (I mean, the film can be SET in an era -- IE: WWII -- but it can't come across as a really "2000s" movie or something).
 
Don't know why, but I always felt Captain Americas costume(s) would translate well onto the big screen, I mean how cool does this look!

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Thats Winter solider as Cap not Steve rogers cap. Still cool......Even tho I think the costume would look better with red boots.
 
What do people think of DareDevil's movie costume then?
Would that not be a good comparison/start?- I thought his mask/headpiece was pretty cool.
 
I'm hoping they do an entire film in WW2... ending with Cap getting cryo-ed in the ice at the end. Then they could START the Avengers movie with the Avengers thawing him out... a lovely nod to the comics continuity.

But isn't the thing we've all been desiring a World War II Cap film? Isn't that where he's REALLY functioning in his prime? Isn't that the best way to really introduce the character AND give him the on-screen cache' he needs to translate?

And besides, don't we really want to see him KICK THE RED SKULL'S butt??

I'm a huge fan of Cap. Since kid-hood reading The Invaders. Those stories were the absolute best in my eyes. And while I respect the Invaders Cap-costume look (traditional), I also really appreciate the "real-world" take they've done with him in recent years.

In fact, who says they can't do all three types of outfits? Start him in the first Cap film wearing the "realistic" stuff, then get him into the future with a "public appearance" version supplied by the government PR firm (the traditional suit like the Invaders style) and then give him a modern "movie suit" when he gets drafted into the Avengers?

That way everybody gets to see what they want and it makes "story sense".

-Gordon
 
I love this version:

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...because it seems to me how'd you'd kit up a WWII super-soldier "for real." I love how they left his ears sticking out. :)
I love this costume too, but probably it's not the most well-know incarnation of the old Cap in the rest of the world... Hence my suggestion for the "classic" iconic costume...:) This (with some MINOR adjustements) would be my choice for a movie costume (I would change just the shield with the classic, round, one. That's it!:))
And the Red Skull as the villain! But a CG face (not a mask unless is a damn good prosthetic!), using the technology used for Davy Jones in the last two "Pirates" movies...;)
 
What do people think of DareDevil's movie costume then?
Would that not be a good comparison/start?- I thought his mask/headpiece was pretty cool.

I agree with you on this. I quite likes the leather cowl from daredevil and think it could translate well for captain america.

wasnt there a scaled sideshow piece with cap's shield and cowl?
 
I hear that the CAP standalone movie "may" take place back place back in WWII and if it does and they go the Ultimates route they may indeed incorporate the leather mask...with that being said not as many people identify with the leather mask so more likely they would go with a somewhat traditonal cap. Perhaps they will break it up and have him wear more than one costume like in the Ultimates
 
This is the coolest version IMHO. Personally, I think the classic costume is just way too much... I can't imagine a way they could get those little head wings to actually not look incredibly goofy. The whole costume works better if it's toned down... that's just my opinion for what its worth.
 
I love this costume too, but probably it's not the most well-know incarnation of the old Cap in the rest of the world... Hence my suggestion for the "classic" iconic costume...:) This (with some MINOR adjustements) would be my choice for a movie costume (I would change just the shield with the classic, round, one. That's it!:))
And the Red Skull as the villain! But a CG face (not a mask unless is a damn good prosthetic!), using the technology used for Davy Jones in the last two "Pirates" movies...;)

I'm always one to prefer the well-made prosthetic over CGI. My money's on the team that works with Guillermo Del Toro. The prosthetics in his films (Hellboy, Pan's Labrynth, etc.) are always stunning.

Normal people should not wear superhero outfits. Please, just don't. Unless you've spent years at the gym...and even then sometimes...just don't.

First off, NO SPANDEX. Spandex actually sucks for superhero costumes because it DOESN'T allow for much definition. It always looks like "Wow, what a crappy costume. Why can't they make it look like the comicbooks?"

Second...

Third, I think that they ought to consider using the kind of material they did for Superman Returns. Say what you will about the film itself, but Brandon Routh's costume WORKED. It looked real, not fakey, fit him well, looked appropriately "superhero-ish", and I thought it did a great job of conveying Superman to the screen.

So you're saying instead of using spandex, use silk screened spandex???



Just ran across this today.
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Latest news/rumors is that the intention is indeed for the majority of the film to take place in WW2. Casting news not so thrilling. Studio #1 pick is Leo Dicaprio, who don't get me wrong, I think is brilliant, but he isn't Cap. Not "all-American" enough. #2 choice is Brad Pitt. A little better. I still feel Cap should have a little more bulk. Like the SS Serum did more than just make a skinny guy ripped.
 
So you're saying instead of using spandex, use silk screened spandex???

I'm saying that, if that was spandex, THAT kind of spandex is fine. But don't use the old 80s/90s style spandex shown in the various pictures in this thread.

I actually like the idea of a Daredevil-like suit. I thought the Daredevil costume looked pretty good (the face looked a little smushed but it was still a pretty faithful translation). The problems with that film weren't related to the costume. Hell, the costume was one of the few good parts.

Latest news/rumors is that the intention is indeed for the majority of the film to take place in WW2. Casting news not so thrilling. Studio #1 pick is Leo Dicaprio, who don't get me wrong, I think is brilliant, but he isn't Cap. Not "all-American" enough. #2 choice is Brad Pitt. A little better. I still feel Cap should have a little more bulk. Like the SS Serum did more than just make a skinny guy ripped.

Please. No big name actors. There simply AREN'T any big-name actors out there who could be cap. Cap is supposed to be something like 6'2, and, like, 250-300lbs of solid freakin' muscle. Not big beefy steroid-abusing WWE wrestler muscle, but muscle built for combat. Leo DiCaprio CANNOT pull that off. Brad Pitt MIGHT be able to if he gets into the kind of shape he was in for Troy, but I think he's too old at this point to convincingly play the role. But why not find someone who the public doesn't already know but who looks the part and can perform it well?


As for costumes, maybe a tooled leather version like the Daredevil suit, but colored brighter for the Cap. I still think a classic costume could work. Especially for a WWII setting and for any situation where he's paraded around like a poster boy.

I mean, if it can be done well (and I think it can) you really have to go with classic Cap. It's the iconic outfit. People don't think of Cap wearing a helmet or a leather "aviator goggles" style mask. They think of Cap in the traditional suit with wings on the headgear and a big round shield.
 
I would love to see a costume based as close to the comics as possible, it would be a real shame to reduce Cap to some leather outfit that only bears the same colors as the comics. Spidey looked good, I'm sure they can make classic Captain America look good.

And I also agree that an A-List name would not work well for him, especially if it's only the name's star power they are thinking of.
My dream casting for Steve Rogers has been Jason Lewis since the first time I saw him in a magazine following his appearances on Sex and the City... I've watched more than one movie now just to see my Fan-Pick for Cap.
 
Ditto on the point about A-list actors. That's just a bad idea. It's a huge pet-peeve of mine to have to watch a different actor play the same character each and every time. When it comes to these franchise properties, I wish they'd only sign somebody if they're willing to sign a multi-picture deal.

I thought the Hulk was pretty good but even if Edward Norton does a sequel, I seriously doubt there's any way he'd share the screen to do an Avengers movie and I can't say I'd blame him. So just find guys that aren't A-list that are talented but are hungry enough to sign up for multiple pictures. At least then it minimizes the recasting of the roles (unless somebody is just horrible in a role and NEEDS to be recast.)

Leo Dicaprio would be a horrible choice for Captain America. Heck, I'd rather see Matthew McConaughy than Dicaprio... at least get someone that looks more like a full-grown man, y'know?
 
My vote is for an unknown. Gotta start thinking about all the problems they had with Batman and how every "star" they cast would balk at covering up their money-maker with a cowl or mask.

Also gotta think about the cost of an Avengers movie with every single superhero making movie-star dictations and puling down a movie-star sized paycheck.

All I can say is remember: Chris Reeve was an unknown.

Movie history.

-Gordon
 
I'm always one to prefer the well-made prosthetic over CGI. My money's on the team that works with Guillermo Del Toro. The prosthetics in his films (Hellboy, Pan's Labrynth, etc.) are always stunning.
I agree about the DelToro "makeup" team is outstanding (because it really is), but some of their prosthetics are CG-"enanched" to achieve a better result on-screen... Of course I was thinking at a CG face because I have in my mind a very "extreme" image of the Red Skull... Something that would be hard to reproduce just with a "mask"...:)

But it really depends also on the choice of the actor/body they would cast in this role... If he will be really skinny, they could "buff" the body and make a "proportioned" mask/face and everything would work like a charm!:D


Surely, if I was going to make a Skeletor I would choose only a CG face to achieve a perfect result, but the Red Skull still has some "flash" to show, and it can be done with prosthetics too, of course...:p
 
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