Nairod
Well-Known Member
Hi C 3PO fans!
It have been a long sime since I wanted to start a topic like this one.
Indeed, being persuaded that there are differences between the diverse helmets of C 3PO (mainly an ANH and a ESB lineage), I made some observations with screen captures, photos of original props and comparison with helmets replicas.
Certainly that this subject only interest me, but maybe that I'll find some readers and peoples to participate to the discussion.
Initially, I thought there was two main "shape": The ANH lineage, re-used for ROTJ and the ESB lineage, re used for AOTC and ROTS.
From what I read here and on starwarshelmets.com, new suit (and probably helmets) were made for ESB and they re painted/ re chromed some of these for AOTC and ROTS.
It was the start of my observations.
The Antenna:
From what we see, the ESB, ROTJ and AOTC helmets seems to have the same type of antenna.
At the beginning I thought that the ANH style was different. Because I have two brass replicas which are supposed to be create with the help of an original ANH antenna (see the last pic). The shape is clearly not the same.
But on some screen captures, the antenna looks similar to the other movie (Im in hurry to have the blueray in order to make HQ captures).
So what's the true? It's a very common replica, but is it the real deal???
You can notice that one of the antenna pictured doesn't have the little hole at the end. As already evoked, it's probably a resin copy for the needs of the exhibition.
The lenses:
I guess that the picture speaks itself!
The grids
It seems there is a difference between the ANH style (brass parts, slot-in lens) and the ESB style (just the grid) present on AOTC and ROTS helmets.
Back of the head detailed part
As stated before, the ANH helmet looks to have a "removable" detailed part made out of brass or aluminium (maybe machined custom part). We can also find it on (some) ROTJ helmets.
But on (some) ESB helmets and AOTC helmet (I don't know for the ROTS helmet), it seems that this detail is a part of the casting (thus made out of fiberglass) and appears to be less detailed.
The right notch
Sorry for the poor assembly of the pictures. It will not be easy to see on these, but I noticed that some helmelt (again, mainly ANH and ROTJ) have a right notch very pronounced.
Sharp and less sharp
Why I had a theory of an ANH lineage and ESB lineage? (which is stupid since ESB helmets were copied from ANH helmets if new suits were indeed made)
If you make a comparison between K3PO and C3PO, you can notice that the helmets aren't similar. To me, the K3PO is way more sharp. Especially the "notches" on the "arch" around the head (sorry, I don't know the exact word to name this part) and all the sharp lines of the helmet.
Look at the notches of the K3PO helmet, and his neck bolt.... isn't it a gold color that we can distinguish??? Re painted ANH helmet???
The position of the face
Some helmets looks to have the face plate way more advanced.
Moreover it seems to be slid inside the back part, where other helmet looks to have the face which stops in front of the arc (as put above).
The assembly
The AOTC and ROTS faceplate have a notch on the exgrowth just behind the antenna ring fixation. It doesn't appear on the ANH faceplate (black and white shot).
The exgrowth of the prelogy helmet appear to be not aligned with the rest of the faceplate (just lie many actual replicas).
But on the ANH helmet, it seems to be the continuity of the faceplate (but it's hard to see with this only poor quality picture).
I don't know if I'm really clear in what I try to explain and show (sorry, english isn't my usual language) thus all my apologies for the headache.
It have been a long sime since I wanted to start a topic like this one.
Indeed, being persuaded that there are differences between the diverse helmets of C 3PO (mainly an ANH and a ESB lineage), I made some observations with screen captures, photos of original props and comparison with helmets replicas.
Certainly that this subject only interest me, but maybe that I'll find some readers and peoples to participate to the discussion.
Initially, I thought there was two main "shape": The ANH lineage, re-used for ROTJ and the ESB lineage, re used for AOTC and ROTS.
From what I read here and on starwarshelmets.com, new suit (and probably helmets) were made for ESB and they re painted/ re chromed some of these for AOTC and ROTS.
It was the start of my observations.
The Antenna:
From what we see, the ESB, ROTJ and AOTC helmets seems to have the same type of antenna.
At the beginning I thought that the ANH style was different. Because I have two brass replicas which are supposed to be create with the help of an original ANH antenna (see the last pic). The shape is clearly not the same.
But on some screen captures, the antenna looks similar to the other movie (Im in hurry to have the blueray in order to make HQ captures).
So what's the true? It's a very common replica, but is it the real deal???
You can notice that one of the antenna pictured doesn't have the little hole at the end. As already evoked, it's probably a resin copy for the needs of the exhibition.
The lenses:
I guess that the picture speaks itself!
The grids
It seems there is a difference between the ANH style (brass parts, slot-in lens) and the ESB style (just the grid) present on AOTC and ROTS helmets.
Back of the head detailed part
As stated before, the ANH helmet looks to have a "removable" detailed part made out of brass or aluminium (maybe machined custom part). We can also find it on (some) ROTJ helmets.
But on (some) ESB helmets and AOTC helmet (I don't know for the ROTS helmet), it seems that this detail is a part of the casting (thus made out of fiberglass) and appears to be less detailed.
The right notch
Sorry for the poor assembly of the pictures. It will not be easy to see on these, but I noticed that some helmelt (again, mainly ANH and ROTJ) have a right notch very pronounced.
Sharp and less sharp
Why I had a theory of an ANH lineage and ESB lineage? (which is stupid since ESB helmets were copied from ANH helmets if new suits were indeed made)
If you make a comparison between K3PO and C3PO, you can notice that the helmets aren't similar. To me, the K3PO is way more sharp. Especially the "notches" on the "arch" around the head (sorry, I don't know the exact word to name this part) and all the sharp lines of the helmet.
Look at the notches of the K3PO helmet, and his neck bolt.... isn't it a gold color that we can distinguish??? Re painted ANH helmet???
The position of the face
Some helmets looks to have the face plate way more advanced.
Moreover it seems to be slid inside the back part, where other helmet looks to have the face which stops in front of the arc (as put above).
The assembly
The AOTC and ROTS faceplate have a notch on the exgrowth just behind the antenna ring fixation. It doesn't appear on the ANH faceplate (black and white shot).
The exgrowth of the prelogy helmet appear to be not aligned with the rest of the faceplate (just lie many actual replicas).
But on the ANH helmet, it seems to be the continuity of the faceplate (but it's hard to see with this only poor quality picture).
I don't know if I'm really clear in what I try to explain and show (sorry, english isn't my usual language) thus all my apologies for the headache.
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