CTF
Sr Member
Maybe one exposure, sure.
And the still that Dykstra took, of course. :cool
But I could be wrong. I'm no expert when it comes to The Death Star...
Building The Death Star - PRODUCTION
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Maybe one exposure, sure.
And the still that Dykstra took, of course. :cool
But I could be wrong. I'm no expert when it comes to The Death Star...
PHArchivist
Master Member
And optical illusions. I'm fairly certain that the radial detail parts likely enhace the illusion of depth, and even more so the trapezoidal shaped pieces, as they taper towards the center.
Nonetheless, I'm going to rework it a bit.
I'm going to remove the small center disc. Then, on the second largest disc, I'll cut out a circle the same size as the center disc (and perhaps even sand down a circular impression in the main dish.
Also, on the back side of the small center disc, I added about .5mm worth of styrene about the size of my pinky nail to allow the center disc to stand off a bit. I did this because in the reference photo, the shadow around this center disc seems notable, suggesting its raised a bit. But now I'm second guessing this.
Finally, I'm going to reduce the diameter of the small center disc by .5mm or so, and that may allow it to sit deeper in the overall dish, and enhance the illusion of depth by making it smaller, appearing a bit farther away.
With all these mods, I should be able to gain back an additional 1mm - 2mm in depth. Considering the scale of the Death Star that'd probably be like 30 - 50 feet!
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PHArchivist
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I'm presuming you refer to the shot I've been posting, right? Do you guys know any more about it?
PHArchivist
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Jeezus that'd actually be more like 650 - 1,300 feet!
Per IMDB, Ralph McQuarrie's personal estimate on the diamter of the Death Star - were it to exist in the real world as conceived - would be 92 miles.
if I did my math correct, 92 miles = 174,873,360mm and 36 inches equals about 900mm.
174,873,360mm / 900mm = 194,304mm meaning that 1mm on the model would equal about 194,304mm on a 92 mile diameter globe.
194,304mm / 300mm (or about one foot) = 648
So again, if I did my math correct, 1mm on the model is about 648 feet!
OK now boy do I feel like geek! :confused
PHArchivist
Master Member
Right back at you! Actually, I picked UP the ruler again. My dish is currently 8mm deep. I'm hoping with the mods mentioned above I might get it closer to 10mm. I'll resume work tomorrow or Friday (holiday is keeping me busy cleaning house for guests).
By the way - 10mm deep would suggest the original, if real, would have been over 6,000 feet deep and 20 miles wide! Crazy.
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Well it is called a SOOOOPERLASER!!
At C4 there was an art print company selling an increadible shot by Dystra of the DS with just it's internal lights. I was shot on a 4X5 neg. Stunning, but $300 ea.
searched the Google can't find them.
BrianM
PHArchivist
Master Member
Intriguing. You say "with just internal lights" Was there any external lighting on the surface then? Or was the globe pretty much black?
PHArchivist
Master Member
What do you guys think of this?
Look at the border between the finished acryilic and the clear acrylic. It looks to me like there there is a black line there, suggesting an edge, under the overspray.
Look at the border between the finished acryilic and the clear acrylic. It looks to me like there there is a black line there, suggesting an edge, under the overspray.
PHArchivist
Master Member
Can you make out the surface detail? In particular, the fine lines and detail in the open area around the equator?
erikstormtrooper
New Member
Is this the Dystra shot?
Moes is an awesome piece, and I totally respect his work on it, but the method he used for the edge - at least in my estimation - isn't totally accurate.
Moe may have likely been aware of this. The way the edge of the original is done appears to necessitate affixing the dish to the dome, then adding small detail pieces around the edge. Moes piece is not permanently affixed to the model.
Thanks, - feel like adding a comment here. I tried to match the detailing of the shape. I know that the small strips along the edge seems to be on the domes instead of the dish. But since Im located in Denmark and the prop was already at the museum, it was a bit difficult for me to add those details to the dome. Therefore they are added to the dish. Remember, we are talking about a replacement dish. The owner does not have the actually dish.
I think those strips are added to guide the dish in place and to prevent it from falling into the domes while attached.
Another thing was the color, my dish is slightly darker, again difficult to match at my location. But the owner could repaint it when the DS is returned from the museum.
Thanks Moe.
Hey guys, one of the big things to remember when recreating an Iconic prop is that there is always going to be a Fanboy pointing out inconsistencies. I have held out on finishing my SSDS because of hoping that there was going to be a person who had access to the original and would be able to give accurate measurements. From personal experience it has been a scary journey to spend a couple hundred bucks to get a couple pieces of plastic only to be afraid to make the first cout from "EYE". Kudos to PH and Moes, I cant wait to see the rest and start my own thread.
Hey guys, one of the big things to remember when recreating an Iconic prop is that there is always going to be a Fanboy pointing out inconsistencies. I have held out on finishing my SSDS because of hoping that there was going to be a person who had access to the original and would be able to give accurate measurements. From personal experience it has been a scary journey to spend a couple hundred bucks to get a couple pieces of plastic only to be afraid to make the first cout from "EYE". Kudos to PH and Moes, I cant wait to see the rest and start my own thread.
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