BOBF Cad Bane blaster

Most likely these are designed in a computer, they may have been influenced by a real weapon as a starting point but can deviate during the design process. I think this has become the new trend for Star Wars blasters at least for the streaming show.
 
guys i started a thread trying to find his coat and hat
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Cad Bane BoBF reference

2/11/22 UPDATE More 4k screen caps found in this post here https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/bobf-spoiler-looking-for-a-certain-coat.343868/post-5285870 Hey guys, Im going to be perfectly honest, I dont know much how fabric or soft parts.. Im trying to find Banes coat he's wearing in BoBF...
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anyone have any ideas towards the duster coat he wears? think its scratch made or modified like other cloths on set

i am also trying to determine the fabric... is it a wool? is it suede? i once had suede sears in my truck and it didn't have the texture his coat does..
 
stuckintraffic2 said:
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I believe that instead of the Colt Paterson revolver (which has a barrel with 6 flat sides), that this based off of the successor to the Paterson, the Colt Walker (which has a round barrel exactly like Cad's). And since this is actually the pistol used in Good, Bad, and Ugly (as shown above) I think is it.
And as SW has done so many times, they have modified from the original. (It's obvious from the images from the episode, that Cad's pistol is not a cylinder revolver....so if you cut the entire cylinder section off of this gun, move it back, and add a small raised block onto the flat section, and then remove the trigger guard, I believe you would have Cad's gun exactly. I love scratch building, kit bashing, or modifications to get to a new/original piece just like the propmasters at Lucas do. I'm pretty sure this is what they did.
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Small correction, that screen cap is actually from The Outlaw Josey Wales. Blondie uses a Colt 1851 Navy in the good, the bad, and the ugly.


As far as them kit bashing and scratch building from an original? Not very likely. At most you may see background blasters that have started as airsoft guns, but for the most part everything is drawn up digitally and produced from those files.
 
True, my mistake on which film the image was from. But the point is still valid, Cad Bane seems to be reminiscent of Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns as a whole. So the real question is not the name of the film, or even which film..but which gun. I still hold that is the Colt Walker with the tubular barrel.
As far as kit bashing, scratch building, and mods of real world pieces very few Star Wars weapons are NOT based on a real world weapon. And then modified. EE3 is based on the Wimbley Flare gun with an added (or kit bashed) scope and fluted barrel. The DL-44 started as a very plain C96 Mauser but the prop team added, a/o scratch built , a scope, different wood grips, a muzzle, and a "heat deflector" on the front that is most definitely an example of kit bashing.
In the Star Wars universe there are dramatically more weapons created by reworking a/o modifing (maybe those terms are more appealing) than ever starting "drawn up digitally". Really not trying to be confrontational, not my style, but even this thread's original question was "some idea of what was used for Cad Banes live action blaster pistol?"
 
stuckintraffic2 said:
True, my mistake on which film the image was from. But the point is still valid… As far as kit bashing, scratch building, and mods of real world pieces very few Star Wars weapons are NOT based on a real world weapon. And then modified.
In the Star Wars universe there are dramatically more weapons created by reworking a/o modifing (maybe those terms are more appealing) than ever starting "drawn up digitally". Really not trying to be confrontational, not my style, but even this thread's original question was "some idea of what was used for Cad Banes live action blaster pistol?"
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I’m not arguing your point about it being inspired by the Walker, it very likely could be.

Din’s sidearm is based on a Bergmann no1. Cara’s is based on a Nambu type 14. Boba Fett’s is based on a Webley. His sidearm is based on a Sedgley MK 5 Flare Gun. Every hero blaster you have seen on screen in these series have all been digitally modeled from scratch and printed. Cad Bane’s is no different. They do not use or kit bash real weapons. What they’ve done in the past is irrelevant as this is what they’re doing now. That is the point I was trying to clarify, friend.
 
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Mr Mold Maker said:
I’m not arguing your point about it being inspired by the Walker, it very likely could be.

Din’s sidearm is based on a Bergmann no1. Cara’s is based on a Nambu type 14. Boba Fett’s is based on a Webley. His sidearm is based on a Sedgley MK 5 Flare Gun. Every hero blaster you have seen on screen in these series have all been digitally modeled from scratch and printed. Cad Bane’s is no different. They do not use or kit bash real weapons. What they’ve done in the past is irrelevant as this is what they’re doing now. That is the point I was trying to clarify, friend.
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Exactly. That is what I was trying to say above.

If you want to discuss for trivia sake what real firearm a prop is based on, that is a fun discussion, but if you are asking for the sake of replicating a prop, that might not be as helpful as it once was.

The current trend in these blaster designs is a game changer for those of us who replicate props. Before, if you knew the correct found item, you could utilize the info to give you measurements and possible elements that might not be seen clearly on screen. But now this is a whole new ballgame.

Let's say for instance a prop designer throws up a 1851 Navy Colt onto his screen. If he is simply adding and subtracting from the design, that's not too different from the previous method. But now with this digital method, the designer may now decide that the entire thing needs to be scaled up 10%, or maybe the grip needs to be increased 8% but the rest of the revolver elements need to be decreased by 5%. Maybe they decrease the cylinder by 6% and move the entire section forward .5". What if they angle the handle out by 7 degrees? What if they decide to utilize 2 or more real guns in the design like a trigger guard from a blunderbuss that has been scaled down to fit correctly in the design, and remove the loading rod and hinge from the 1851 Colt and replace it with the ejection rod of a 1873 Colt Peacemaker that has been enlarged 2% on on axis, and 7% on another axis and then flattened on one side?

So basically what I am trying to say is that knowing a starting point of weapon is not going to give us the same info it used to. We are basically going to have to approach SWU weapons such as this as we might a new Star Trek phaser and just try to backward engineer the design.
 
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Halliwax said:
wish we could get something clearer... does look like he has both hip holsters
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has it ever been confirmed those are mandolorian gauntlets?
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Looks pretty close to the Clone Wars gauntlets, shapewise, etc. The "buckle" looks to be ID'd by our own Luke Daley from JJ Industries, he posted this on the their FB page this weekend.

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Halliwax said:
So I’ve been on this cad bane kick.. I’m watching sewing tutorials on YouTube because that is the only thing stopping me from tackling this in live action.

But what I’ve noticed it, the no trigger is probably because of those long fingers he has!! Can’t get them in or around the trigger guard!
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It may just be me, but it looks like the tips of his fingers are bulbous, similar to a tree from, which indeed would make it very difficult to get into the trigger guard, and forget about about quick draw!
 
Funky said:
It may just be me, but it looks like the tips of his fingers are bulbous, similar to a tree from, which indeed would make it very difficult to get into the trigger guard, and forget about about quick draw!
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I good friend of mine complained about his fingers.. “they looked floppy” lol
 
Halliwax said:
bless you for always looking out for my terrible grammer;)
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"Grammer" makes me think of a Scot or Geordie referring to their grandmother. (At least in my accent, which pronounces "er" on the end of a word differently than "ar," which is how "grammar" is usually spelt.)

Of course, a wise person should always be on the lookout for a terrible Geordie grammer, as they can be quite dangerous. :D

(No insult intended, I just thought it was a funny way to tag in on this thread so I get notifications!)
 
Vagabond Elf said:
"Grammer" makes me think of a Scot or Geordie referring to their grandmother. (At least in my accent, which pronounces "er" on the end of a word differently than "ar," which is how "grammar" is usually spelt.)

Of course, a wise person should always be on the lookout for a terrible Geordie grammer, as they can be quite dangerous. :D

(No insult intended, I just thought it was a funny way to tag in on this thread so I get notifications!)
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Gram is what i use to call mine.. i miss her a lot...
 
Vagabond Elf said:
"Grammer" makes me think of a Scot or Geordie referring to their grandmother. (At least in my accent, which pronounces "er" on the end of a word differently than "ar," which is how "grammar" is usually spelt.)

Of course, a wise person should always be on the lookout for a terrible Geordie grammer, as they can be quite dangerous. :D

(No insult intended, I just thought it was a funny way to tag in on this thread so I get notifications!)
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After seeing more of it in the finale I wonder if they took some cues from the Cosmo Dragoon from Captain Harlock; both based off Colts, have a spur off the back where the hammer was, and an oval symbol on the grips.
 
Cap-that.com should have great 4K screen caps up in a few days. Can’t wait to break this down and see the models start flowing, definitely need these guys in my collection
 
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