Bandai 1/72 PG Millennium Falcon (also the Revell Germany rebox)

Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

SawbonesAdmiral said:
I feel that the only thing stopping Bandai from making an ESB Falcon is the cost.

There's gonna be a need for some extensive retooling for the kit, from the underside, to the mandibles, the turrets, etc. as well as the need to research the 32-incher with the same scrutiny as they did the 5-footer.
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You do realise that the 5 Footer was modified with gear boxes for ESB & RotJ......the 32" was made after the 5 footer was modded,...the 32" was mainly used for the stunt work in the films....here's the mods made to the 5 footer

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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

Goodtime said:
My guess is that Bandai has already done the preliminary design work for the ESB version. It's now a matter of how well the PG ANH version has sold and would they get a return on their ESB version investment if placed into production. Only time will tell.
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On the first page of this thread Bandai showed their intensions to have the gear swappable on the concept model....but obviously when the production kit came out they had refined the model as the SW version
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

gt350pony66 said:
Well, Tony just scaled up the gear boxes from a 1/144 for the PG 1/72 and did it in a couple days. Wouldn't Bandai have the capability to just scale up the entire hull piece from the 1/144 and then make the proper adjustments? No sarcasm, serious question.
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Having the "capability" to physically produce a model is one thing, whether or not such model is feasible as a commercial kit is totally another.
Putting aside the enormous amount of work it would take to make the parts for the ESB mod of the 5 foot miniature (Bandai didn't make the 3D model for the PG by simply scaling up the one they made for the 1/144, but they totally made it anew from scratch), a large portion of the cost in the manufacturing of injection models is to do with the making of the metal dies and the refining process of their molds; a process which is not a part of shapeways type of 3D printing. Plus advertising, package designing, making instruction manuals with tons of drawings, test-fitting everything, and so forth.

There have been many concept models that Bandai has shown at trade shows, including a huge and extremely detailed star destroyer, that hasn't been made into a product.
There have been many kits with hints of future version Bs in the spues (like the PG Falcon, with hints of an ESB version) but have not been produced.
 
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Lab said:
Having the "capability" to physically produce a model is one thing, whether or not such model is feasible as a commercial kit is totally another.
Putting aside the enormous amount of work it would take to make the parts for the ESB mod of the 5 foot miniature (Bandai didn't make the 3D model for the PG by simply scaling up the one they made for the 1/144, but they totally made it anew from scratch), a large portion of the cost in the manufacturing of injection models is to do with the making of the metal dies and the refining process of their molds; a process which is not a part of shapeways type of 3D printing. Plus advertising, package designing, making instruction manuals with tons of drawings, test-fitting everything, and so forth.

There have been many concept models that Bandai has shown at trade shows, including a huge and extremely detailed star destroyer, that hasn't been made into a product.
There have been many kits with hints of future version Bs in the spues (like the PG Falcon, with hints of an ESB version) but have not been produced.
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But Bandai would have a relatively minimal amount of work to do to make the ESB mold for the PG Falcon. They have designed the bottom hull in mainly two sections, a front, and rear section. It seems very clear the all the need to do is have a mold made for the bottom front mold and they would be close to done. The foundation is there.

I don't mind making the modifications myself. So either way, I'm happy.
 
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Now this is an image I have not seen before, I agree with your theory given the panel lines illustrated. perhaps we're just experiencing normal marketing strategy. once we've all bought the ANH, they'll introduce the ESB and we'll all buy that too. it's like DVD's, first the theater release as was seen at theater, then the special expanded edition and so forth. You end up with 2 to 3 versions of the same movie.
Jaitea said:
On the first page of this thread Bandai showed their intensions to have the gear swappable on the concept model....but obviously when the production kit came out they had refined the model as the SW version
https://www.therpf.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=821780&d=1527932805

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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

Same here, I mean...Tony took a scan of the Bandai 1/144 he had, checked the angles and scaled it up to 1/72 and the boxes fit the PG 1/72 flawlessly...and it took him 2 days. Bandai is just holding out, a marketing strategy and who could blame them. That's the way the game is played. Aside from working out the reconfigured maintenance wells, which Jaitea and Nkg appear to be all over it, I got what I wanted and I'm happy as a pig rolling in $#!T.
korben44 said:
But Bandai would have a relatively minimal amount of work to do to make the ESB mold for the PG Falcon. They have designed the bottom hull in mainly two sections, a front, and rear section. It seems very clear the all the need to do is have a mold made for the bottom front mold and they would be close to done. The foundation is there.

I don't mind making the modifications myself. So either way, I'm happy.
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

korben44 said:
But Bandai would have a relatively minimal amount of work to do to make the ESB mold for the PG Falcon. They have designed the bottom hull in mainly two sections, a front, and rear section. It seems very clear the all the need to do is have a mold made for the bottom front mold and they would be close to done. The foundation is there.
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Not just the hull, but all those greeblies in the pits, at the minimum, although, the main problem isn't there, but in whether or not Bandai would think they could recoup the cost of making all the tools (especially the costly dies) for an ESB version. My very personal view on the probability of Bandai releasing an ESB version of the PG would be 50:50.
 
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I'll buy into that assessment :thumbsup
Lab said:
Not just the hull, but all those greeblies in the pits, at the minimum, although, the main problem isn't there, but in whether or not Bandai would think they could recoup the cost of making all the tools (especially the costly dies) for an ESB version. My very personal view on the probability of Bandai releasing an ESB version of the PG would be 50:50.
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

Lab said:
Not just the hull, but all those greeblies in the pits, at the minimum, although, the main problem isn't there, but in whether or not Bandai would think they could recoup the cost of making all the tools (especially the costly dies) for an ESB version. My very personal view on the probability of Bandai releasing an ESB version of the PG would be 50:50.
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My guess is that they have everything they need... Pulling the plug is just the next step. I'm just glad we have such an amazing Falcon kit on the market. And modding it to fit my needs is the fun part anyway!
 
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Seems to me that their biggest costs were the R&D making it back into it's original state. They've already designed the current kit to be easily changed if needed. Bandai already has all the info and scans they need. Seems likely to me that they are going to want to cash in on all that work and the Empire version would be an easy way to do that.
 
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H3ll yeah...anyone can put a model together but doing modifications takes another level of skill, and having it look good and correct is true talent :thumbsup
korben44 said:
My guess is that they have everything they need... Pulling the plug is just the next step. I'm just glad we have such an amazing Falcon kit on the market. And modding it to fit my needs is the fun part anyway!
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I agree, doesn't look like there is anything in there that couldn't be scratched up huh. Though, if Nkg comes up with replacement well pieces, I'm going to go that route. We'll see what happens. Gonna be a while till I get that far anyway. I'd like to finish everything else before I bust out the PG, it will need my undivided attention.
korben44 said:
This should be fairly easy to mod the existing PG into the ESB version. At the very least it will be fun!
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

gt350pony66 said:
I agree, doesn't look like there is anything in there that couldn't be scratched up huh. Though, if Nkg comes up with replacement well pieces, I'm going to go that route. We'll see what happens. Gonna be a while till I get that far anyway. I'd like to finish everything else before I bust out the PG, it will need my undivided attention.
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I expect to be done with my Docking Bay 94 diorama this weekend and will then be able to give my next diorama my undivided attention. Before I get to the Falcon, though, I need to concentrate on finishing the interior of my Slave 1.
 
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I measured and marked the ceiling panel last night too, gonna wait till the weekend to cut it though, gotta drag the table saw outside of the garage and also get some skinny blades for the jigsaw to cut the round out. I expect I'll be done with the base in a few weeks, then it'll be on to the PG. but I guess my timeline might get sideways depending on what else goes on at home, know what mean?
korben44 said:
I expect to be done with my Docking Bay 94 diorama this weekend and will then be able to give my next diorama my undivided attention. Before I get to the Falcon, though, I need to concentrate on finishing the interior of my Slave 1.
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

gt350pony66 said:
I measured and marked the ceiling panel last night too, gonna wait till the weekend to cut it though, gotta drag the table saw outside of the garage and also get some skinny blades for the jigsaw to cut the round out. I expect I'll be done with the base in a few weeks, then it'll be on to the PG. but I guess my timeline might get sideways depending on what else goes on at home, know what mean?
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I know exactly what you mean, brother...
 
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