Back to the Future II 2015 Jacket Build NEW VIDEO JACKET pg 27!!!

[Contec]

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I'm just don't see Gary's diffuser as "accurate". The technique to do the fabric looks ok, but the Original diffuser material looks more "puffy" as it is more higher. Gary's seem so flat.

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[Jedifyfe]

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You could just use a sewing machine. Now that I know that this works, I'm going to borrow one for my jackets. Thanks for the tip Brad.

I tried my sewing machine. Mine is a piece of crap but it didn't have enough power to get trough thick parts of the jacket that were close to the edges.

 

[cavx]

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:thumbsup I don't sew, so I didn't know you can adjust that.

Most have a foot control that allows you to go from just moving to flat out. You can also hand turn the wheel at the end to give you what is basically a machined hand stitch.

 

[cavx]

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I'm just don't see Gary's diffuser as "accurate". The technique to do the fabric looks ok, but the Original diffuser material looks more "puffy" as it is more higher. Gary's seem so flat.

I thought I read a post here that made the a positive master by gluing round beads to a board, then they took a cast off that to make a negative mold. The result being a sheet of rubber with round beaded texture. Anyone else remember that or know anything more about that?

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

I'm just don't see Gary's diffuser as "accurate". The technique to do the fabric looks ok, but the Original diffuser material looks more "puffy" as it is more higher. Gary's seem so flat.

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True but even in that pic it looks like two different styles. The teardrop style and Gary style are both in that pic. I'll have to find the other thread where it shows someone successfully using the correct diffuser.

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

I thought I read a post here that made the a positive master by gluing round beads to a board, then they took a cast off that to make a negative mold. The result being a sheet of rubber with round beaded texture. Anyone else remember that or know anything more about that?

I do recall something about that, but I think it was just an idea. I don't think anyone did it.

 

[cavx]

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I do recall something about that, but I think it was just an idea. I don't think anyone did it.

OK. It would be cool to find that thread and just compare notes.

There is a member with a pair of real MAGs who has a very nice jacket (sorry can't think of his name right now). I wonder what his textured panels are like.

 

[MrFusion]

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I'm telling ya guys, the main sleeve part is not latex. Look at the straps, the very edges. They have cracked and chipped just like a leather, or faux leather. Maybe even a suede? I don't think this was made. I think it was brought. And judging by the shots in BTTF 2 when he gets 'eaten' by the shark. This grey material makes up the bulk of the jacket. Even behind the red bumpy stuff. If ya look closely, when he's all scrunched up and hands on his head. You can see behind the shoulder on his back. Take a peek

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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I'm just don't see Gary's diffuser as "accurate". The technique to do the fabric looks ok, but the Original diffuser material looks more "puffy" as it is more higher. Gary's seem so flat.

I agree with you. In looking at the link Spyhunter posted for the Optix panel it describes a square pattern. I can assure you 100% that my new diffuser is still not square - it's slightly tear dropped. That defiinitely implies that there is another diffuser pattern made by that company.

I'm going to order samples from plaskolite of both the PL-21 and their cracked ice and see what shows up.

I'm also going to check an idea for the gray parts. I'm 60/40 on cast vs found material for those. More as it develops.

-Gary

 

[MrFusion]

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I have the right panel. I posted a link to it in a previous post. Gonna pick it up Saturday £12...BAAAMMM!

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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I've gone and ordered samples of the following.

PL-21 Pattern Panel
Optix Clear Prismatic Panel (just in case they are different)
Cracked Ice clear acrylic panel

Hopefully I will have those within a week or two for inspection. I'm also going to check some of my local plastics guys and other hardware stores to see what they may have.

Fairly confident I can track down the right panel without too much more trouble.

 

[Spyhunter2k]

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One problem is that the specs will say the prismatic cells are "square-based" on some designs when they are obviously parallelograms/diamonds. Gary's current polystyrene panel has cells that are the closest to a true square shape that I've been able to find, with the exception of the domed cell designs with have inaccurate small pyrmaids in-between the raised circular bumps.

Gary, I think that the panel you have now is of identical cell design as the ones you just ordered samples of, but we'll see.

I need to look back at the pics of the real jacket. I think in some shots the cells look perfectly square, and in some they look like slightly-elongated diamonds. It depends on your viewing angle. Also, I wonder how much the lighting angle in the real jacket pics is affecting, and possibly accentuating, the perceived depth of the circular bumps... They do look to be more raised but we're only going off a couple close-up shots with an unknown lighting angle and comparing them to Gary's panel with lighting coming from (I would guess) directly overhead.

I can pretty much squash the beads theory. If you look at the cells on the real jacket you'll note that each one has a small peak (dare I say "n1pple") at the top of each circular bump, just as most cells on a lighting panel have. These bumps don't seem as pronounced on the cells of Gary's current panel, but they are there. There is no way, even if you could find beads that each had this bump, to have glued them down in such a way as to make all of these bumps point perfectly towards the top.

 

[cavx]

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Gary, This is the stuff I used to make the "waffle" on my clear soles for my MAGs and what I was planning to use on my own jacket.

It is a PVC flooring. Any good?

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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Ha, ha, ha... the nips. That's one of the things Bree noticed right off the bat. "it's like a giant sheet of boobies" or something to that effect.

Now that she's said it, I can't UNSEE it. :rolleyes

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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Nope, that pyramid pattern will not work. You need a more rounded square/diamond.

-Gary

Gary, This is the stuff I used to make the "waffle" on my clear soles for my MAGs and what I was planning to use on my own jacket.

It is a PVC flooring. Any good?

 

[Spyhunter2k]

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MrFusion, I went back and looked at the link to a diffuser panel you posted on p. 12. How do you know that this is a panel of the correct design? When I visit that link, I don't see that it even provides a picture of the panel...

Also, for any out there searching like me, many websites refer to these panels as "lenses," or "lens panels," since that's what each cell on the panel effectively is. There really isn't much fine texture or frosting on them as you would see on a true diffuser panel. That said, many sites do call them "diffusers," while others refer to them simply as "plastic sheeting." It would be nice if they all called this stuff the same thing.

One last thing to consider...many of the designs come in both a female and male version. Though the design is supposed to be the same, I wonder if it may be more pronounced in the male version, meaning if a male panel was molded to create a female mold for the jacket texture, would the bumps on this female mold be of slightly more depth than using a female-pattern panel directly as the female mold.

Hmmmm.....

 

[MrFusion]

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Shizzle. Just realised the link I posted was of an earlier attempt at tracking down the right panel. I know Gary, because the correct panel has been sitting above my head at work for the year and I only noticed it 3 weeks ago. I've taken imprints from it and there perfect if not a bloomin fantastic match to the jacket pics. There good enough in my eyes. And I'm a right pain in the bum when it comes to getting things right. Woes of being a perfectionist. Lame. I'll sort out the new link when I get home. S
So, we have pretty much got this red bumpy stuff in the bag. Next step? I think we should start workin on the belt bit and cuffs. I got a pretty good idea how to make a mould for it. Just need some good estimations on sizes, thickness etc...any ideas?

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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You don't need to scratchbuild anything for the cuff pieces - just track down the original style chair bellows. I'm looking around a bit now for some, but have some pending projects to get done with first before I dive into them.

I did pic up something I wanted to test for the grey elements today. I'm not sure how it's going to work quite yet though.

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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Oh, I went by my plastics place today and saw a sample of the "cracked ice" plastic panel. No way in heck it would work for the gray flats. As Mitas pointed out - it's WAAAAY to overscaled. It looks like wrinkled crepe paper.

 

[MitasTouch]

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The water heater in my house has the most accurate cracks that I can find. It's the metal outer shell of it. If any one of you have access to a junk water heater with that pattern, you could strip it of the outer shell, flatten it, and make a cast of it.