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Kerr Avon said:
Did she notice after being slapped upside the head or after having the allegory shoved down her throat?

It's not exactly what I'd call subtle, at least from what I've seen in the previews.
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She took no offense. I think your suggestion that is was "shoved down her throat" would be far more offensive than anything that Avatar would begin to suggest!

Richie
 
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Kerr Avon said:
It's not exactly what I'd call subtle, at least from what I've seen in the previews.
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It wasn't subtle having Wes Studi as the chief either. Look, I am enough Indian to qualify for tribal benefits, should I register with the BoIA, but pfft...nothing in there was offensive. The suggestion I got from the movie was the same as every movie of its ilk: We are tied to our planet, whether we like it or not. Look at what was said that was done to Earth during the movies time period.
 
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Since this is being mapped so heavily onto native peoples experiences of this planet...

My full blooded American Indian bud isn't interested in seeing it after reading up on it.
Too simplistic and uber hug a tree for him.

As if native peoples are not capable of their own leadership and need the magic "white" man or whatever to guide them.

Hell even the Ewoks we're better example.
 
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RICHIES ARMOR said:
I saw it twice yesterday is 2d and 3D. It was a fun comparison seeing the differences in the 2 versions of the film. I was blown away! You wouldnt have been able to get the smile off my face! I was drawn into the film and was almost startled when it ended!

My wife attended the 3D version with me and highly enjoyed it! She being native American immediatly noticed the connection to the portrayal of the Native Americans in most American films and felt is was a nice homage.

I find the complaints I read here mostly laughable! I never would have even known there was music in the film...didnt mean a thing to me. I was in awe of the effects and I was too busy rooting for the characters!!

I loved the action, the visualization, the story...nothing else in the world crossed my mind for that 2.5 hour period!

Mabe Im a more simplistic movie goer but I think I know what a bad movie is...ATOC comes to mind. I never ounce wanted to see it again after seeing it initially...havent even watched any of the SW franchise after those last 3 let downs!

Amazing job JC!!

Richie
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my thoughts exactly !!! well said Rich
 
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Badd Blood said:
Does anybody know if there is a difference in the projecting technology or if its just a question of the build quality in the glasses?
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There are 3 main 3D projection technologies.

Active shutter glasses - which switch the left right eye on/off in sych with the projector. Requires no alterations to the projector or screen (except for the LR sync signal) but glasses aren't disposable and need their batteries charged. Imax and some smaller theatres use this system.

RealD - passive polarised glasses. Requires a special silvered screen and an add on filter to the projector to polarise the left/right eyes differently. Can, however, use disposable cardboard glasses. I think this is actually the nicest to look at but has expensive set up costs.

Dolby 3D - this is actually really clever - the RGB light from the left and right eyes are filtered into bands of slightly different wavelengths by a filter wheel on the projector and a coating on the glasses filters out the appropriate wavelengths for each eye. This is probably the most practical system since it projects onto a white screen and uses passive glasses, although the glasses are more expensive to make and less disposable than RealD.
 
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I saw it today.

I thought it was bloody brilliant, an amazing experience which, for once, lived up to the hype.

Cameron is awesome.

No jaded cynicism from me - I watched it with childlike wonder and I LOVED it.

Ok, just a little jaded cynisism - Lucas should watch this and WEEP.
 
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My answer is, because Cameron jas succeeded where Lucas failed, in producing a live action/CGI based sci-fi film which actually had story, characters and pathos. It achieved an emotional connection with the audience.

As opposed to the PT, which looked good but felt flat as a ****, for the most part.

I know it's apples and oranges, in some ways, and don't want to make this into a comparison thread...

But this felt how I WISHED the PT would feel.
 
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ob1al said:
My answer is, because Cameron jas succeeded where Lucas failed, in producing a live action/CGI based sci-fi film which actually had story, characters and pathos. It achieved an emotional connection with the audience.

As opposed to the PT, which looked good but felt flat as a ****, for the most part.

I know it's apples and oranges, in some ways, and don't want to make this into a comparison thread...

But this felt how I WISHED the PT would feel.
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Sorry, that is a nice opinion, but I disagree. RotS was a better movie than this.
 
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I do disagree.

ROTS was the best of the new Star Wars films, but in no way was it better - in any capacity - than Avatar.

I'm intrigued though - what do you think was better about ROTS? In terms of a generic film, that is?
 
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Seeing Avatar was like the most vivid dream I have ever had and the most beautiful painting I have ever seen. It was a cinematic masterpiece.
 
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ob1al said:
I do disagree.

ROTS was the best of the new Star Wars films, but in no way was it better - in any capacity - than Avatar.

I'm intrigued though - what do you think was better about ROTS? In terms of a generic film, that is?
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To me, I found the tale of the fall of a hero far more intriguing. Here was this person who was a hero of the Republic and in a few master strokes, Palpatine orchestrated his fall from grace. All of the pieces, the 20 years plus of plotting and planning had finally come to fruition. One man did what no one thought could be done...turned a democracy into a dictatorship and the people went willingly.
 
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Don't get me wrong here, I love Star Wars...Lord knows I do...but seriously, the basic premise of the PT story is good but the execution was terrible. Clumsy, vague and pondering, self-grandiose and lacking in substance.

I wan't to love it, I've tried to love it.. i WOULD defend it even now to a non-SW fan...but I'm among friends here, so I can safely say the PT sucks. In part. :lol

In some ways, at least, you have to admit it fails to engage on an emotional level.

As I sat in the theatre, all excited like I was 10 again, watching ROTS, I had to push myself to love the movie. Some parts more than others, but I had to LET myself be taken with it. To be fair, it was easier with that one than AOTC or the crapfest which is TPM.

I can't just blindly love it and hail it a masterpiece if it isn't any good, just because it says SW in the title. Even if some part of me wants to.

With AVATAR, I didn't even have to try. 5 mins in, I WAS there, there was nothing else until the story had ended. I nearly cried twice.

That's how I remember seeing all the BEST films of my youth. Reality was suspended for that short while and you were THERE with the characters. Nothing else mattered. I felt that way about all of the OT, about JAWS, Raiders, LOTR....

That's the hallmark of a classic film.
 
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