ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

I think the arrow profile may have been just to illustrate the draft on the part to allow it to be ejected from the mold.

The Merr Sonn part is split in half presumably along the parting line so we see no flash.

On the HERO we can see 3/4 of the grill in many shots. Has anyone seen any parting line flash evidence? Sure it was cleaned up fairly well. just wondering if anyone else has seen any.



If after all these years no one has presented any better photos, and I think Lonepigeon has said none exist, we are out of luck!

This is the best evidence we have to work with and have to make the best assessments, conclusions and educated logical estimates we can based on what we have available or we will be waiting a long long time for parts.

I personally think we will be very happy with the final model from Deadbolt. It will be as "screen accurate" as possible and much much better than previous attempts due to these new discoveries. The look and size and scale will match the HERO as close as humanly possible.

Even another C96 would not be exactly the same as the HERO so there has to be some allowance for insignificant minute details... I think.

 

[kurtyboy]

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I've already been waiting since 2004... I can wait a few years longer! :lol

I think the arrow profile may have been just to illustrate the draft on the part to allow it to be ejected from the mold.

The Merr Sonn part is split in half presumably along the parting line so we see no flash.

On the HERO we can see 3/4 of the grill in many shots. Has anyone seen any parting line flash evidence? Sure it was cleaned up fairly well. just wondering if anyone else has seen any.



If after all these years no one has presented any better photos, and I think Lonepigeon has said none exist, we are out of luck!

This is the best evidence we have to work with and have to make the best assessments, conclusions and educated logical estimates we can based on what we have available or we will be waiting a long long time for parts.

I personally think we will be very happy with the final model from Deadbolt. It will be as "screen accurate" as possible and much much better than previous attempts due to these new discoveries. The look and size and scale will match the HERO as close as humanly possible.

Even another C96 would not be exactly the same as the HERO so there has to be some allowance for insignificant minute details... I think.

 

[kpax]

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I've already been waiting since 2004... I can wait a few years longer! :lol

Man you have patients!

Well, 7 years isn't too long... in dog years!

Hope you don't have to wait too much longer.

 

[deadbolt]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

Great picture, thanks kurtyboy!

The edges of the fins look either softly square, or slightly rounded. Hard to say for sure though.

I also see the offset on those pieces too. It looks like they made the full round Grill from two different pieces, then cut it in half and bookmatched it side by side on the Merr Sonns. The offset is visible on both halves of the MS Grills, not flipped, but symmetrical.

Not a good chance with the references we have, but maybe the ANH DDC and Comlinks carry the same offset flaw? Which could mean they only had one master Grill, and all the others are just cast copies of it.

As for replicating the pieces, I agree the Original piece would be just fantastic to work from, but we can't be sure it will ever be found. We shouldn't stop looking either, but I think we can definitely work up something good enough for the time being with everything we're beginning to know about this Blaster. :thumbsup

-Carson

 

[kpax]

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...If this is a consular ship, WHERE is the ambassador?

Sorry, I meant to say, ...if this is the MerrSonn piece, where are the thick rings?

If it is the MerrSonn piece, how do we explain the thick rings? Are they plastic washers used to connect the pieces? The thick rings do not line up with the inner tube wall and are not placed on the fins the same. The top fin sticks out more.

The fins on the top tapered section on the MerrSonn are much longer than the HERO. Are they trimmed? Again, Why?

Why would they add washers or something to join the two bottom pieces? It would be easy to just file them square and glue them so they could easily line up the inner tube.

Again, If it is the MerrSonn piece, why did they not just leave it with two bottom pieces and one top tapered as is? Those two thicker rings wouldn't be very notibly different in and shots, so why.

Also, if the two bottom sections are both tipped down to produce the taper we see from the side views, why do the inner tubes still line up? They should be tipped as well... no?

That's my problem with the MerrSonn piece.

 

[kurtyboy]

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I give up with this piece!

But more Merr Sonn piece ref available at Official Pix:

Store - Product Detail

Store - Product Detail

and maybe these hero pics at 16 x 20 would be useful?

Store - Product Detail

Store - Product Detail

 

[deadbolt]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

Thanks for the links Kurtyboy, I may have to check those out..

It looks like the thick rings may just be stacked non pointed rings. I'm pretty sure the lower pieces of the DL-44 Grill are the same as the larger pieces on the Merr Sonns, but it's never definite though.

The reasons I think the upper Grill piece is the same part as the other two larger Grills, is because it has the shorter fins and a slight taper which looks pretty close to the upper Grill piece. And also while modeling the grill in the past, I had allot of trouble getting the diameter of the smaller, more tapered grill part to fit the Mauser properly. It's inner wall is too small of a diameter to set as close to the Mauser as the Original does. But the radius of the Larger piece cut the same way would just about do it I think.

And the upper grill piece looks to tilt back a little bit, making it look more tapered. But still, difficult to tell for sure though.

-Carson

 

[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

OK...

I redid the drawings using the blueprinted Merr Sonn part from Lonepigeon.

If cut in the right spots, and filled in the right spots, and glued together the right way, it could work!

If I got the scale correct.

There are two possible ways it could be done.

The image on the left is using 3 pieces of the bottom fat sections.

The center one is actually straight. The bottom one tips forward, which may explain the threaded look on the right side shot.

The top piece is set back and tipped back.

The image on the right uses the top section but the fins would need to be trimmed.

Either way it's a lot of work for a piece that could have been left straight, more like a round version of the Greedo Killer.

It would work like this, but it is a strange assembly.

Maybe this will help make sense for Deadbolts model.

Let me know what you think!

 

[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

larger image

I offset it a bit so you can see the hero underneath.

The left version makes sense of the weird thick ring on top being set back more than the bottom one too!

 

[kurtyboy]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

This any better for doing your overlays?

 

[kpax]

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[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

This any better for doing your overlays?

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Heck yes!!


Thanks!!

That's a nice shot!

What you think of this new build?

Glad you pushed. looks like it works.

 

[kurtyboy]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

The fins are really quite thin. The reason they look thick and rounded at the ends is because you are seeing some of the top or bottom face of the ring, not just the side.

 

[kurtyboy]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

You're doing some good work here, Pat. I just wish someone could provide clearer photos.

Next I'm going to look at the stormtrooper comlink...

 

[deadbolt]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

Great picture, Thanks! I think I can see part of the upper grill piece hanging over the lower grills, just under the end of the Scope Mount horizontal Bar. Which may be more evidence that it's larger and offset.

Great work on the overlays Pat, that represents what I meant exactly! Getting closer to the truth..

-Carson

 

[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

Here's an overlay of Kurty's pic and the new 3 part, MerrSonn bottom piece assembly.

 

[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

That pic really shows the piece a lot better. You can see the way it is up against the frame much better.

Really does seem to line up pretty good now.

You are right about the thinness of the fins too. The fuzzy pics make them look thicker.

Did you notice the "thicker" rings have a slight undercut bevel, or at least it look like that.

Could explain a lot.

I'll bet when Carson layes it out like this it will fit.

 

[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

Some different exposures and details

Still has the slight "threaded look on the bottom section which is good, proves the tipped theory.

The center one seems more level to me. I left it parallel to the body for my drawing.


I think we are on to something here!

 

[kurtyboy]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

We need a photo of the Merr Sonn taken from the same angle as the hero so we can scale them to match each other. Only then can we be sure that the piece matches up in scale.

 

[kpax]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

that undercut could be this type of detail from a pipe connector.

Not the same piece but same type of detail...