ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

[lonepigeon]

Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion

It has probably been said on the RPF before but the "Disk" most likely was already on the lower receiver when they built the prop otherwise they would not have needed to cut the curve in the grill to let it show or be out of the way of what ever may have been there.

If it were painted, they could have just painted over it when they painted the grill.

Yes the disk had to be there when they added the grill. The receiver with greeblies was painted after the parts were added. Either there was some problem with the disk and it was removed, or it broke off.
I tend to think the "hole" is actually just paint and not an actual hole. If it were a mounting hole the disk wouldn't have come off.

If the circle was actually milled I'd expect damage to the underside of the sliding rail. In photos it looks like the rail is fine but just missing paint from when the disc was there (instead of a semi-circle cut out where a milling bit hit it).

 

[Lichtbringer]

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The receiver with greeblies was painted after the parts were added. Either there was some problem with the disk and it was removed, or it broke off.
I tend to think the "hole" is actually just paint and not an actual hole. If it were a mounting hole the disk wouldn't have come off.

It depends - if they decided to remove it, a real hole is possible.

Imho more possible than painting that part of the receiver through a 2mm hole thats ca. 8mm deep, and when breaking of all paint is gone but this 2mm spot? Usually when something breaks of that was painted while stuck to another surface, you don´t get that sharp outlines.

Another point for my theory - the paint stays in that deep hole, but the paint that sits where the notch in the outer circle was is gone? In a perfect circle? Not easy to believe.

If the circle was actually milled I'd expect damage to the underside of the sliding rail. In photos it looks like the rail is fine but just missing paint from when the disc was there (instead of a semi-circle cut out where a milling bit hit it).

It could have been milled, and the paint on the rail chipped by removing - i don´t think so, but it´s a possibility.

 

[kpax]

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Yes the disk had to be there when they added the grill. The receiver with greeblies was painted after the parts were added. Either there was some problem with the disk and it was removed, or it broke off.
I tend to think the "hole" is actually just paint and not an actual hole. If it were a mounting hole the disk wouldn't have come off.

If the circle was actually milled I'd expect damage to the underside of the sliding rail. In photos it looks like the rail is fine but just missing paint from when the disc was there (instead of a semi-circle cut out where a milling bit hit it).

Hi Chris,

I don't think the disk goes up to the rail. If you look close, it seems to only go or cut into the angled part of the mag well just below the rail. What do you think?

 

[kpax]

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[deadbolt]

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These two photos seem to argue against each other a little. The rail above the disk doesn't look to be chipped or nicked in the first one, but in the bottom one it does.

Edit: Besides the grill clearly not matching the paint, you can also see the glue under the grill, so it must have been attached after painting. :thumbsup

-Carson

 

[kpax]

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Somebody here has got to have a better scan or image of the full left side, post pro. pic (green background) The original like the Right side leaning on the table B&W would be great!

 

[OdiWan72]

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Another point for my theory - the paint stays in that deep hole, but the paint that sits where the notch in the outer circle was is gone? In a perfect circle? Not easy to believe...

Never heard about the imperial disc theory, even if it´d make sense.
But please keep in mind that not all of the transrotor pulleys had the notch! I was lucky to find a bunch of original vintage transrotor parts and there are quite a few variations of the pulleys.

I´m still not concinced that they used the discs WITH notches on the Chewie BC either.

Markus

 

[kpax]

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Hi Carson,

The top pics I enhanced to try to bring out some detail.

In the bottom pic posted by Lonepigeon, you can see that the disk is "cut" into the angled area I pointed to above, not the rail, otherwise there would be a dark demarcation line where the two "parts" Upper and Lower receiver are separated.

There IS a highlight at the perpendicular intersection of the flat mag well and angled area suggesting a "cut" but what bothers me is that in these pics you can not see any highlight in the hole BUT, you can see a small highlight at the top left edge so maybe...

 

[Lichtbringer]

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Never heard about the imperial disc theory, even if it´d make sense.
But please keep in mind that not all of the transrotor pulleys had the notch! I was lucky to find a bunch of original vintage transrotor parts and there are quite a few variations of the pulleys.

I´m still not concinced that they used the discs WITH notches on the Chewie BC either.

Markus

We don´t know what they used, maybe it was just a simple shim. And we also don´t know why it isn´t there anymore, removed or broken off.

But whatever they used, i don´t believe in "glued on, painted all in one, fell accidently off, and left a perfect circle and a painted dot of that size in the middle".

 

[kpax]

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Just a little antenna detail to keep in mind if we replicate it.

 

[kurtyboy]

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So... anyone got Official Pix SW-1136? The front sight should be visible:

 

[deadbolt]

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Hi Pat, hope you didn't mind me linking to your edited photo, it was able to show what I was getting at. :thumbsup

I saw your post with the raised angled area right after I posted mine, I remembered that area right afterwards.

The one photo looks to show only a partial hole/circle. Maybe it was painted and scratched off a little? Hard to say for sure.

-Carson

Hi Carson,

The top pics I enhanced to try to bring out some detail.

In the bottom pic posted by Lonepigeon, you can see that the disk is "cut" into the angled area I pointed to above, not the rail, otherwise there would be a dark demarcation line where the two "parts" Upper and Lower receiver are separated.

There IS a highlight at the perpendicular intersection of the flat mag well and angled area suggesting a "cut" but what bothers me is that in these pics you can not see any highlight in the hole BUT, you can see a small highlight at the top left edge so maybe...

 

[kpax]

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not at all, use em or loose em I say.

 

[deadbolt]

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Just a little antenna detail to keep in mind if we replicate it.

I noticed that difference too :thumbsup I don't remember seeing any antennas made with that slope, wonder why?

-Carson

 

[kpax]

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This is how I see the sight/antenna como according to Lonepigeons research and photos and a little common sense concerning a usable front sight.

What do you think

 

[Brinn 71]

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I don't know about shipping to Canada but this is the wood grip version. $87 US

Broom Handled Mauser Wood Handle - FD1024M by Medieval Collectables

Oh MAN! Thanks for that link. I need to grab one of these when/if these parts become available! thumbsup

I have some of these pics and need to locate them on my old drive from when I put them up in the old ANH Han blaster thread. Wish me luck!

 

[kpax]

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$77.95 US

FD1024M BROOM HANDLED MAUSER WOOD HANDLE

says they ship to canada...


These guys will match price and free shipping I think.

Where I got mine (wood grips) Will ship to US only though. Sorry Brinn 71

NetLinkEnterprises.com - Historic Replicas

Oh MAN! Thanks for that link. I need to grab one of these when/if these parts become available! thumbsup

I have some of these pics and need to locate them on my old drive from when I put them up in the old ANH Han blaster thread. Wish me luck!

 

[lonepigeon]

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I noticed that difference too :thumbsup I don't remember seeing any antennas made with that slope, wonder why?

-Carson

Because it's generally considered to be glue or resin residue. It's easier to replicate after machining if desired.

 

[kpax]

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Because it's generally considered to be glue or resin residue. It's easier to replicate after machining if desired.

Are the Ball end and rod considered to be two separate parts?

That radius is strangely even for glue.

 

[lonepigeon]

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So... anyone got Official Pix SW-1136? The front sight should be visible:

It's visible, but mostly as a silhouette. What were you hoping to see?