ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found
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Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
I want on the list please I need a scope mount bad, Before I have one machined for $500.00 bucks, Hurry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait...
Thanks
I want on the list please I need a scope mount bad, Before I have one machined for $500.00 bucks, Hurry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait...
Thanks
kpax
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Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
Ok... time for an update.
I went to visit the shop doing the parts today, about 45 mins away, was like a monsoon driving!
The good news is that things are progressing! The past 2 weeks were spent mostly ordering materials and programing the CNC from Deadbolt's 3d models which takes a bit of time to get correct.
These are very accurate and detailed models and we want to get it perfect so the set I ordered will be the test set to compare to the HERO for look and to make sure all the parts fit properly.
Unfortunately there was not a lot of metal cut yet but we went over some important details like the knurling and hardware.
I will post some pics of the FH in progress shortly.
He needs to make or a special order a cutter for the bullet knurls to get the right look. As was discussed early on, these need to be cut with a radial cutter rather than an ball mill to get the right look and 3mm radial cutters are not that readily available in the US I am told. Either way it will be done correctly!
I will keep you posted as I get more. I am pushing as hard as I can, but for the price I think he is giving us, I don't want to upset the cart.
He is working on the Grill and mount now but did not get pics yet.
FH pics to follow...
Ok... time for an update.
I went to visit the shop doing the parts today, about 45 mins away, was like a monsoon driving!
The good news is that things are progressing! The past 2 weeks were spent mostly ordering materials and programing the CNC from Deadbolt's 3d models which takes a bit of time to get correct.
These are very accurate and detailed models and we want to get it perfect so the set I ordered will be the test set to compare to the HERO for look and to make sure all the parts fit properly.
Unfortunately there was not a lot of metal cut yet but we went over some important details like the knurling and hardware.
I will post some pics of the FH in progress shortly.
He needs to make or a special order a cutter for the bullet knurls to get the right look. As was discussed early on, these need to be cut with a radial cutter rather than an ball mill to get the right look and 3mm radial cutters are not that readily available in the US I am told. Either way it will be done correctly!
I will keep you posted as I get more. I am pushing as hard as I can, but for the price I think he is giving us, I don't want to upset the cart.
He is working on the Grill and mount now but did not get pics yet.
FH pics to follow...
kpax
Sr Member
Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
...here the straight knurls are being cut rather than rolled. We were trying to get the depth just right for look and feel.
The FH is being held in a special fixture from the inside. The inner cuts are already there and finished.
Next time I go I'll bring my camera to get better pics. The parts should be more finished by then.
There are a lot of parts being made so this will take just a little longer, but it will be worth the wait!
Just so you know, the scope alone has 11 parts not including the hardware.
Hope to have more next week.
...here the straight knurls are being cut rather than rolled. We were trying to get the depth just right for look and feel.
The FH is being held in a special fixture from the inside. The inner cuts are already there and finished.
Next time I go I'll bring my camera to get better pics. The parts should be more finished by then.
There are a lot of parts being made so this will take just a little longer, but it will be worth the wait!
Just so you know, the scope alone has 11 parts not including the hardware.
Hope to have more next week.
FakeBritishAccent
Sr Member
Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
BEAUTIFUL!
BEAUTIFUL!
Lichtbringer
Master Member
Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
I was really hoping for some nice oldschool rolled knurling. :cry
The cut knurling on mine is the major part, next to the slighly oversized "bullets", that bothers me most at it - still a nice replica, but i so was hoping you will have yours made rolled, to replace my cut version.
Btw. - instead of spending a lot of time on cutting all these hundred cuts with a endmill ..... there are tools out there that work and look like standard rolling knurlers, but are cutting supersharp knurls:
Rändelfräswerkzeuge
With them it´s just a few seconds to have a flashhider cut: zeus® Rändelfräswerkzeug RF1 Serie 231 - Längsrändelung - YouTube
I was really hoping for some nice oldschool rolled knurling. :cry
The cut knurling on mine is the major part, next to the slighly oversized "bullets", that bothers me most at it - still a nice replica, but i so was hoping you will have yours made rolled, to replace my cut version.
Btw. - instead of spending a lot of time on cutting all these hundred cuts with a endmill ..... there are tools out there that work and look like standard rolling knurlers, but are cutting supersharp knurls:
Rändelfräswerkzeuge
With them it´s just a few seconds to have a flashhider cut: zeus® Rändelfräswerkzeug RF1 Serie 231 - Längsrändelung - YouTube
kpax
Sr Member
Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
Thanks for the input. I also thought it would be faster and more accurate to do the rolled knurl. I will forward the info you sent... still time to adjust for the run.
This is the time for alterations! Glad you spoke up. I will ask about this detail.
... it's not too late!
Thanks for the input. I also thought it would be faster and more accurate to do the rolled knurl. I will forward the info you sent... still time to adjust for the run.
This is the time for alterations! Glad you spoke up. I will ask about this detail.
... it's not too late!
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deadbolt
Sr Member
Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
Rolled Knurl would be great as long as it can keep the correct spacing between the knurls. :thumbsup
If rolled it might be difficult to get it so that the knurls don't get too close together and form points, which would make for a noticeably inaccurate knurl compared to the Hero FH.
-Carson
Rolled Knurl would be great as long as it can keep the correct spacing between the knurls. :thumbsup
If rolled it might be difficult to get it so that the knurls don't get too close together and form points, which would make for a noticeably inaccurate knurl compared to the Hero FH.
-Carson
Lichtbringer
Master Member
Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
The tool i linked in my post may look like a standard knurler, but in fact it does cut the knurling, not making it by pressure. In german we call them Rändelfräser - rändel = knurling and fräser = endmill. just to clarify it´s function, it´s no usuall oldstyle knurler. I just mentioned them as a possible way to make the same sharp groves as with a endmill, but in a fraction of the time of milling.
Oldschool rolled would be great -if it "looks" right i would prefer it, even if not with the exact amount of knurls - over the exact amount but to modern sharp cut. Both wouldn´t be perfect, but in my book the vintage look would be higher valued.
In the end it comes down to "test and compare", as you mentioned.
The tool i linked in my post may look like a standard knurler, but in fact it does cut the knurling, not making it by pressure. In german we call them Rändelfräser - rändel = knurling and fräser = endmill. just to clarify it´s function, it´s no usuall oldstyle knurler. I just mentioned them as a possible way to make the same sharp groves as with a endmill, but in a fraction of the time of milling.
Oldschool rolled would be great -if it "looks" right i would prefer it, even if not with the exact amount of knurls - over the exact amount but to modern sharp cut. Both wouldn´t be perfect, but in my book the vintage look would be higher valued.
In the end it comes down to "test and compare", as you mentioned.
kpax
Sr Member
Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
...well here is the first FH from Carson's models. Overall I think it's very good. We may tweak a few things after we have time to really compare but so far so good!
I think if you look at the HERO and this, it is very close. The knurls look right, not overly deep, the bullet knurls are correct. (remember the HERO is worn a bit)
The angle and quality of the pic is not great but hey, he's a machinist, not a photographer. I'll take better ones soon, just wanted to post what I had so far, I know you are all waiting... patiently...
Let me know what you think...
...well here is the first FH from Carson's models. Overall I think it's very good. We may tweak a few things after we have time to really compare but so far so good!
I think if you look at the HERO and this, it is very close. The knurls look right, not overly deep, the bullet knurls are correct. (remember the HERO is worn a bit)
The angle and quality of the pic is not great but hey, he's a machinist, not a photographer. I'll take better ones soon, just wanted to post what I had so far, I know you are all waiting... patiently...
Let me know what you think...
FakeBritishAccent
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Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion
I've said it twice, I'll say it a third time...SOLD!
I've said it twice, I'll say it a third time...SOLD!
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