AMT Star Destroyer

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  1. El Visitor

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    Hi folks :)

    Got myself a good deal on the AMT star destroyer through ebay to help referencing for a scratch build.

    Turns out the kit isn't that good as a reference so I'm just gonna have a go at building it up and beautifying it.

    Slow progress initially as I'm a noob in terms of this type of modelling.

    Here's some pics of what I've managed so far:

    Played about with making the bays deeper and adding some hull detail after sanding the life out of it!
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    Also started adding some texture to the engine area:

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    I've drilled for lots of fibre optics but they don't really show up on my phone's camera.

    Progress is slow because I'm inexperienced and I don't want to make a mess of it...... Fingers crossed!! :confused
     
  2. jedimaster

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    Good luck with the build. I admire the guys that have a go at modding these factory kits. I just couldn't be bothered. I like em BIG!! ! ... Oh and accurate.

    Simon.
     
  3. 3d-builder

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    Hey thats looking sharp already!:thumbsup
    There is certainly a level of challenge in
    working from what the kit offers.
     
  4. blakeh1

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  5. El Visitor

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    Jedimaster: I'd love to go for bigger and more accurate but space and finances are not permitting at the moment :cry

    Thanks 3D builder, nice of you to say so. Yeah, the fit isn't great on this kit but I figure it's a good place for me to cut my teeth. :)

    Blakeh1: That guy's work is amazing, something for me to aspire to but I don't think I'm likely to achieve it with my first build! LOL

    I'm not going for accuracy with this one as I think it would be too challenging at the moment, I'll put that off till I start my scratch.
    For now, I'm content just to make the kit fit together properly, add detail (made up in my head and not referenced) and hopefully get some lighting in there (if not, I've gotta fill in all the holes I drilled for FO!!)

    It's slow going at the moment, I only get little periods to work on it here and there and a lot of the time is spent staring at the parts, scratching my beard and trying to figure out what I want to add and what's the most practical way to put it all together in terms of sub-assemblies.

    Did a bit more engine work last night:
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    Quite hard to see but I've run some fishing line through to add super fine pipe detail.
     
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  6. Zombie_61

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    That is one of the benefits of building one of AMT's original Star Wars kits--you get quite of bit of experience putting ill-fitting parts together, and puttying and sanding to hide seams and replace detail missing because of the gaps; it makes building well-engineered kits a breeze! :lol
     
  7. El Visitor

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    That's my philosophy, let's just hope it doesn't end in tears!! LOL

    Finished detailing the engine section now, quite pleased with the look.

    I also started building the trench sections for the notches.

    I'm also pleased with their look which means I'm probably gonna have to build the lot as my parts look a bit odd alongside the supplied trenches.
     
  8. El Visitor

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    Small progress:

    I got sick of doing the side trenches and decided to work on the lower hull a bit more.

    Not sure if I've gone over the top at the front, might need to chip a few pieces off!

    Any opinions are warmly welcomed. :)
     
  9. blakeh1

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    I don't think it's over the top. It looks good to me so far
     
  10. El Visitor

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    Coolio, thanks:)
    I gues it'll stand out less when the rest of the hull is detailed.
    I think some of the dots are a little thick but I can always sand them down a bit.

    Time to press on then!
     
  11. center68

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    Turning out great - can't wait to see this done
     
  12. El Visitor

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    Thanks center68, me too! LOL

    There's a rumour that santa will bring me an airbrush and compressor for Xmas so I'll be able to get some primer on then.

    I've noticed in other posts that primer makes everything look cooler. :)

    Should get quite a bit done tonight so more pics tomorrow.
     
  13. El Visitor

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    Started roughing in the main bay but my draughting square seems to be a little off so the cuts are all a little bit wonky! Still, I've made a startand there's a lot of detail to go over it so it should come out alright. I just need to think carefully about light leaks etc before I fix anything permenantly!

    Also added a bit more detail, need to get some thinner sheet for some of the panel detail I want to put in.
     
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  14. El Visitor

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    Few little bits of progress over the weekend:

    Added some detail to the smaller bay and did some lighting tests and got cracking with the lower hull details after recieving the much needed strips and sheets of styrene.

    Sorry the pics are a bit naff but I've only got my phone camera!

    I'm feeling happier about the project altogether now I can see it starting to take shape, still a ways to go yet though!! :)
     
  15. El Visitor

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    Managed to get a start on the main bay but having to rework and adjust constantly as I go along to allow for lighting and assembly.
    Starting to get fiddly now but it's an interesting/fun part of the work. :)
     
  16. Randy13

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    I love the detail you’re putting into this. You’re going to make this AMT model look great! Keep up the good work.
     
  17. El Visitor

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    Wow! Thanks Randy.

    I take that as a big compliment having seen the quality of your' work, your' aliens diorama is stunning! :)

    I hope this'll turn out good, this will be my first time working with an airbrush which I'm a little daunted by but with a lot of patience..... well, fingers crossed! LOL :)
     
  18. Randy13

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    Thank you so much for the kind words. I’ve wanted to build my AMT SD for a long time but never quite knew how I should detail it. Seeing what you’re doing is a big inspiration.
     
  19. El Visitor

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    That's one of the great things about the RPF: loads of inspiration for all sorts of projects. :)

    I was planning to do a bit of a lighting test for the main bay but realised I didn't have all the LEDs I needed. DOH! :unsure

    Instead I decided to press on with detailing the interior walls and building the room behind the back door of the main bay.

    Got some ok results but a lot of my time was wasted when some of the super-small details simply dissolved into a paste on contact with the cement!

    I really hope all the splodges of glue won't show through too much when I come to paint but with a little luck the primer will take care of that.
     
  20. yuumi2891103

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    This is nothing an AMT kit anymore. This is your build.:thumbsup
    More you go into it, more you love to put the detail.
    The result will be fascinating. :love
    This is rather a good size to put the detail and that look effective.
    You can even use stapler staples to add as a detail bit.

    Great works :lol

    katsu
     
  21. El Visitor

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    Thank you kind sir. :)

    Yeah, it's true that the more I do, the more detail I want to add on.
    My estimated completion date gets pushed further back every time I look at this kit.

    Funnily enough I do have staples in my detailing bit box, along with cigarette lighters, broken telephones, CDs etc etc.

    Any thing that saves money means I can crack on rather than saving and waiting. :)
     
  22. blakeh1

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    that bay detail is turning out very nicely. It should look great with lights behind it. I've got to do the same thing for mine
     
  23. El Visitor

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    Thanks mate. :)

    You gonna post your' build?
     
  24. blakeh1

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    I'm working so slowly on it that I will wait until i've got it about 50% done. Only thing completed right now is the bridge tower and some details around the outside of the main hanger bay. I'm keeping my eye on your build anda few others for some ideas and guidance
     
  25. Scratchy

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    Very nice work El Visitor. There's no such thing as "over the top" when detailing a star destroyer, just when you think it's done..... throw more in there:love

    I know that .005" styrene is ideal for raised panels on a 1/2256 Star Destroyer... have you considered laying down some scotch tape on the plastic and cutting out the sections for the raised panels? I've heard of builders doing this technique with an adhesive vinyl for larger scales.

    It's just an idea.
     
  26. El Visitor

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    I'll look forward to seeing it Blakeh1 :)
    I keep getting scared of starting the bridge, the parts are a little delicate!!
    I'll probably end up sanding them flat and just using them as a frame to support whatever detail I decide to put on.

    Thanks Scratchy that's a really good idea :) I'll use anything really and the cheaper the better! LOL

    I've chipped and chisselled a mass of plastic out of the inside of the hull to accomodate the bay (boy does this thing look ugly from the inside!!)
    I feel Like I'm about done with the bay walls now but as Scratchy points out: the more the merrier when it comes to ISDs!
    Also I need to plan out my lighting and get it painted before installing the bay so at that point I'll be able to tell what more is needed.

    If you look at the pic below that shows the incomplete ceiling in place, you'll notice lots of shiny messy spots where I've over-glued :cry

    Will a good primer mask this or will I need to scrape it off before painting?
    (Please tell me the primer will do the trick!:unsure)
     
  27. El Visitor

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    PS. Thanks to Robert M for your' comment.

    Too kind. :)
     
  28. El Visitor

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    Progress is slowing a little with the need for Christmas preparations!

    All I managed this weekend was a bit of reworking and some new details for the main bay ceiling.

    Now it's time to press on with getting all the side trenches built, something I'd been putting off because the first couple of sections took so long (backwards logic I know!)

    The bay detailing has spurred me on and given me some fresh ideas on how I'll put them together.
     
  29. blakeh1

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    The only thing I wound up keeping from the original bridge was that "battleship gun turret" part in the middle on the front face.

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  30. El Visitor

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    Wow!!

    That's looking pretty cool Blakeh.

    I see you're going for an accurate look, something I don't think I'll be able to manage at this scale.

    The orbs are looking good, they're rubbish as provided but your' plating improves them a lot. I've seen a couple of people scratching these (most notably Scratchy) but at larger scales. I've no idea how I'll tackle them when the time comes!
     
  31. blakeh1

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    I just cut out a whole lot of little triangles that I sized to match the dimensions of the raised line triangles on the existing orb. I really could have used a ChopIt to help get a more uniform size, but at the time I did not know about that very handy tool so I had to use a razorblade to cut the angles from strips of styrene. I didn't go for 100% accuracy (it would be impossible for me at this scale) I just took the main bridge features and simplified then to mimic the overall look

    I'm going to try to copy what you did with the hangar bay since that turned out superbly
     
  32. El Visitor

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    Thanks Blakeh. Yeah, I'm quite pleased with how it's turning out. :)

    I actually pulled my finger out and got a bit of a start on the rest of the side trenches last night.

    For some reason I decided to do them in small sections of 50-120mm.... I can't remember why now and it seems like making more work for myself so I've started the new sections in two long strips divided by the little hangar openings I made.

    I've got a feeling that I'll want to scrap the old ones and just do fresh for both sides now though.
     
  33. El Visitor

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    Happy new year everyone, hope you've all enjoyed any holidays you've had. :)

    My time was not as productive as I'd hoped for two reasons:

    1- I had a lot of visiting and socialising to do.
    2- There were some major modelling distractions. (see images)

    The airbrush kits are gonna mean I can do some of the work that was waiting for primer to go on first etc.

    The Galactica kit means I'm twice as busy as I was before Christmas. :)

    Been having trouble uploading pics from my phone over the last couple of weeks but I've made some progress with side trenches etc so I'll try getting some images up in the next 24 hours.
     
  34. Randy13

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    Happy New Year El Visitor. Congrats on your new toys and looking forward to your new progress pictures.
     
  35. El Visitor

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    OK, so by "24 hours" I meant more like 96! LOL

    Only a few pics because some of the trench work I did got scrapped due to some fit issues. :cry

    Pretty much there on the port side but I'm getting nervous about how I'm going to finalise.
    I need to fix the parts/ paint/ insert FOs and layer on some more details (later, as they require the trenches to be in place).
    I'm just not 100% on the best order to approach it in, so while I've been scratching my head I decided to get some of the more boring jobs done with (things like sanding the top hull and super-structure smooth).

    Anyhow, here's a handfull of what I've done and decided to keep:
     
  36. youngwm

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    You have really detailed this kit and made it your own,, Looken really good can't wait to see the finished product..
     
  37. El Visitor

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    Thanks buddy. :)

    I've demolished all the sanding and time filling duties, so it's time to buy primer and bite the bullet!
    I need a couple of days to get over some dental work but I plan to launch myself into it this weekend. I think that'll be a major hurdle crossed and hopefully speed things up!

    I've also been experimenting with ways of lining the ship interior with shiny aluminium foil with varying degrees of success. Thi.k i'll use the downtime to properly brush up on my electronics and lay out a circuit diagram.
     
  38. jacewraith

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    any more updates mate? im waiting for my AMT destroyer to arrive in the mail and start my own build and looking hard for some inspiration and tips so i dont mess it up.. its looking realy good soo far mate
     
  39. Captain Han Solo

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    Excellent work Sir!
     
  40. blakeh1

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  41. El Visitor

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    Hola Amigos :)
    Been away from all this good stuff for quite some time now, had a bereavement, a couple of bouts with some debilitating illnes and the associated aftermath and cooling down period!

    Getting everything back on track now and keen to get rockin on this build as it's starting to take up space I need to free for other projects!

    Updates to follow soon.
     
  42. NAZGÛL

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    Nice work! :thumbsup

    I can definately see the fun in taking something like this kit and making it shine! Do you scratchbuild models also?
     
  43. El Visitor

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    Hello, sorry I've been off for so long, it's been a rough couple of years unfortunately but I'm glad to say I recently dusted off my tool-kit and I'm back to work on this little beauty! :)
    Thank you NAZGÛL, I've pottered with a few random scratches but only stuff I was making up as I went along. My big plan is to scratch a large Star Destroyer and I actually got this kit to check some of my dimensions before started cutting, then fixing up the AMT became a big project of it's own! :)
     
  44. blakeh1

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  45. JediMichael

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    Aw man, I killed myself to try and find something for my domes. Ended up using small Christmas ornaments that were somewhat close, but not exact.
    Not sure how big they are in that link....math is my weak point, so I wouldn't even know what 1/4222 is.
     
  46. mirdhim

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    I like a lot the work you have done in this amt kit. And the main bay, it´s awesome!!!
     
  47. Zombie_61

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    Fair warning--I wouldn't trust any of the MPC/AMT/Ertl kits to have accurate dimensions.

    1/4222 is the guesstimated scale of the AMT/Ertl Star Destroyer kit. Considering they're designed specifically for that kit, they should be reasonably accurate as far as size/scale. They're out of stock anyway, and Starship Modeler is dependent upon their suppliers for restocks, so making your own was probably faster anyway.
     

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