Am I REALLY the only one disappointed with TFA?

[CessnaDriver]

[ANNOUNCER_VOICE]"The Force is awake. And this time, it's really pissed off!"[/ANNOUNCER_VOICE]

Dwayne The Rock Johnson as "The Force"!
Oooh I just got chills typing that.

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One major lesson I learned after the Matrix 2 hyper analyzing I fell into...
Don't over think it, fans are going to be far more clever than the writers of the films more often then not.

 

[Zombie_61]

Dwayne The Rock Johnson as "The Force"!
Oooh I just got chills typing that...

If they did that, I'm convinced the fans would storm the Disney and Lucasfilm offices with pitchforks and torches.

 

[Tom1971]

Sums it up well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNAy7yCMyBw

 

[glunark]

Ten million people watched it of course your not alone the world would be boring if we all liked the same ****

More like 100,000,000, I mean my tickets were expensive, but I didn't pay a hundred to see it.

 

[CessnaDriver]

Sums it up well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNAy7yCMyBw

Agreed. Those of us that we're not thrilled are definitely on the same page as the reasons why.

 

[niennumb1]

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[CessnaDriver]

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Well, they can't all be a Holiday Specials can they?

 

[Jaitea]

Sums it up well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNAy7yCMyBw

Yes, Its all the same stuff that has been said before

He needs to back off the mic a bit,....his breath was popping the mic every time he said P & B.

J

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I find it hilarious that you complain they borrowed too much from the previous films only to say that they should have done it like it was in Empire in regards to Kylo stopping the blaster bolt.

I wasn't comparing anything to ESB. I was saying they should have used a known Force power to show Ren's connection to Vader. This was a little too Matrix-y.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Here's another critical take making the rounds:

Why Star Wars: The Force Awakens Made Me Feel Terrible

https://medium.com/cinenation-show/star-wars-the-force-awakens-dd9fd641f731#.z5grlz397

That's exactly how I felt. They almost totally disregarded ROTJ. Luke is a failure, not a great Jedi who would bring back the Order (which is what Lucas intended, not what you imagined). I didn't have a problem with parts of the Empire being around though.

 

[niennumb1]

That's exactly how I felt. They almost totally disregarded ROTJ. Luke is a failure, not a great Jedi who would bring back the Order (which is what Lucas intended, not what you imagined).

I didn't feel it was a disregard for ROTJ and it's Luke that appears to look like a failure. Great people with the best of intentions can have catastrophic things happen out of their control. No one is perfect and I'm sure, especially with how awful things got out of control with Ren, he absolutely feels responsible for what has happened. I sure would if I were in his shoes. And now he's stuck in hiding hoping he isn't found for the sake of his own life.

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[Jeyl]

The way these films seem to value life in general is almost becoming a joke. Everyone seems so worried about people dying but when that moment actually comes, no one seems to care. It'd be nice if someone who was one of the good guys NOT be ok with openly killing people. Rey sees a Stormtrooper and wants to shoot him dead. When she does, it's treated like a 'Yay!' moment for her complete with BB-8 looking and sounding amazed. Killing someone isn't my idea of a 'WOW!' moment. Put more points into speech, persuasion, charisma or mind tricks. Don't try to save the characters you know. Try saving the ones you don't know. Or better yet, try figuring out how not to kill all the bad guys. Quit having the good guys killing people with ease and gratification!

 

[matty matt]

It's Star WARS. Try not to kill the bad guys? What?!

 

[niennumb1]

Where is TR-8R in A New Hope or any of the other films?

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[CessnaDriver]

I can accept something bad happening to one of our OT heroes after ROTJ. But
friends stick together, take care of each other through bad times, these are not characters that
run off and give up on each other! They would have supported each other and stuck together. They were family.
Abrams and Co nuked all that. And he is supposed to be an 'effin FAN of SW???? I guess not that part.
And as noted by so many what was the reaction to Han's death by that family? Not much.
And it's a very broken feeling and I can't forget it. So much so how I'm I supposed to look at the next film
now that all this is foundation?
The few bloody new things he chose to do was how to handle the OT characters and that was to trash the OT characters such that some of us
have a hard time seeing them anymore other than.. hey there is the same actor!
It's JJ Trek all over again, those characters got trashed too.

Now I am angry again.

 

[cratercritter]

opcorn.... I guess 40 years can sometimes do this to friends or family members.
People sometimes drift apart from each other in real life and in the fantasy world of movies too.

 

[batguy]

I don't think it's implausible or all wrong for these characters to have gone separate ways after 35 years. 35 years is not 5 years. They all lived hard lives with a lot of pressures on them. Their personalities were such that they probably got along much better in a crisis & pressure than they did once things calmed down. When people drift apart that is what it is - they didn't make a firm decision not to be friends anymore, they just got pulled apart for various reasons. The separation was never supposed to be forever, it was just something that "go away from them."

Is TFA's treatment of the big-3 unrealistic? Or just disappointing?

 

[CessnaDriver]

SW is supposed to be a little bit fairy tale happily ever after too.
Hell I still have friends that I watched either SW or ESB with as kids together, we still hang out.
My buddy just gave me a Lobot trading card he found laying around as a joke.
We didn't change all that much, we are pretty consistent mofos. LOL
It's not so much they drifted apart, they turned their backs on a lot. Just doesn't work for me
and they stop being good guys and start being your co-worker Bob with issues griping about life....
Yeah well my son is giving me problems, he's all emo, not sure what to do, and the wife, oh man it's just not there anymore....
I get plenty of that drama in real life.

 

[glunark]

My son is a pain in the arse too, but I don't think I can really compare stealing chocolate with killing a bunch of people.

Unless you have actually brought up a kid who became a murderer, you can't really say what it would do to you and your family if you did.

Where was the happy ending in ESB, most people's favourite film?

I guarantee, there would be as many people complaining, if not more, if the main characters were all acting exactly as they were in ROTJ with zero personal growth or character evolution in 35 years.

 

[CessnaDriver]

ESB was a cliffhanger, and at that point SW was assured a third film, so sure the downer what fate awaits our friends next ending was perfect for the 2nd act and part of the serial aspect of SW. Character growth is fine, who would gripe about that? But this kinds of thing they did seems out of sync to me.