Alleged Screen Used Hero TOS Phaser up for auction (now the aftermath)

[Captain Dunsel]

I keep expecting that “11th Communicator” to show up at an auction house, somewhere, soon…

https://www.therpf.com/forums/threa...communicator”-will-likely-be-“found”….340622/

 

[Gregatron]

I made a detailed comment on his Wah Chang video with a link to this thread, it was deleted within 10 minutes.

From the comments:

Please excuse the comments of some of our visitors. There is currently an entire cabal of old time "experts" on Star Trek the regularly make accusations they can't back up. This particular phaser auction really upset them because it caught them by surprise on their various internet hangouts. In general they will repeat things that others have said without ever trying to fact check themselves. In this case; they are 100% sure that the phaser is a fake. But here's where they refuse to even consider reality: this phaser was completely disassembled along with the Greg Jein phaser. And they matched extreme close (they are the shots showing two on a blue backgound). Now after the verification was done against Greg Jein's hero; the phaser was given a thumbs up by the most senior Star Trek prop expert still alive at that time : Greg Jein. He saw nothing to indicate a fake. And he allowed his examination and it's photos to be used in documenting the provenance of the phaser. So people like the one here are clearly saying that they are the ultimate authority on this particular phaser (which they have never seen). And in doing so; they simply ignore Greg Jein's involvement. Because they believe that they are right and he was wrong in this matter. These old time Trek fans are the same one's that constantly criticise anything done on Star Trek since the film reboots. Quite frankly, they hate change. And they say quite a few negatives things about me on those sites as well. I don't even reply as I'm way too old to be playing with playground bullying.

 

[Gregatron]

Also, who is this guy? Have we talked about him, before?

 

[robn1]

In general they will repeat things that others have said without ever trying to fact check themselves.

The irony. What effort was made by anyone to fact check the phaser sent to Wah for repair story? If he had it in his possession for so long then why didn't he ever mention it in the numerous interviews he's given?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, with the burden of proof being on those who make the claim. All we have here is a BS story that can't be verified.

 

[robn1]

Also, who is this guy? Have we talked about him, before?

Nobody.

 

[Gregatron]

Nobody.

The reason I ask is this: “And they say quite a few negatives things about me on those sites as well. I don't even reply as I'm way too old to be playing with playground bullying.”

Hmm.

…also, I thought Bob Odenkirk was Nobody.

 

[robn1]

The reason I ask is this: “And they say quite a few negatives things about me on those sites as well. I don't even reply as I'm way too old to be playing with playground bullying.”

Hmm.

…also, I thought Bob Odenkirk was Nobody.

I have no idea what sites he's talking about, I haven't seen any mention of him here until I posted that vid yesterday.

 

[Gregatron]

I have no idea what sites he's talking about, I haven't seen any mention of him here until I posted that vid yesterday.

Well, this nobody apparently has an axe to grind, which makes me wonder what the backstory is. Hmmm.

 

[robn1]

Well, this nobody apparently has an axe to grind, which makes me wonder what the backstory is. Hmmm.

I can't imagine why, I was very polite in my comment and only wanted to set the record straight. I rather liked his vids on the ship miniatures, even though he presented details we've known for years as though they were new discoveries.

 

[robn1]

I just made another comment, I hope he takes it in the good spirit I intend.

 

[Gregatron]

I just made another comment, I hope he takes it in the good spirit I intend.

Meh, what’s the use? He’ll just delete it and call it “trolling” by a member of “the cabal”.

Me, I’m wondering where my cabal membership card and other perks of membership are at.

 

[robn1]

Meh, what’s the use? He’ll just delete it and call it “trolling” by a member of “the cabal”.

Me, I’m wondering where my cabal membership card and other perks of membership are at.

I'm offering an olive branch, if he takes it great. If not then we know who the "cabal" really is.

 

[dbuck]

He deleted a follow up comment so fast it wasn’t even funny. I called him out on deleting comments with links to the appropriate research on proving the phaser a fake from a known fraudulent auction house and asked why he felt he needed to promote the fake when his other info seemed so grounded.
it was gone in two minutes.
it won’t do any real good though to keep commenting. it’s a shame that herocomm folded so quickly under the slightest pressure last year.

 

[feek61]

I suspect JP is behind this video

 

[Captain Dunsel]

“There is currently an entire cabal of old time ‘experts’ on Star Trek…” Random YouTube Guy

Well I have always described the RPF as “a wretched hive of scum and villainy”, but, I’ll accept “…a cabal of old time ‘experts’ on Star Trek” as well, I suppose.

 

[Bigdaddy]

I'm very tempted to start a YouTube channel called "cabal of old time experts" and issue a rebuttal wearing a Micheal Myers Halloween mask.

 

[Jintosh]

I'm very tempted to start a YouTube channel called "cabal of old time experts" and issue a rebuttal wearing a Micheal Myers Halloween mask.

Would it be Michael Myers? Or Fawks?

 

[Bigdaddy]

Would it be Michael Myers? Or Fawks?

I'd have to go with MM since the Shat speaks with authority!

 

[robn1]

Michael Myers it is then.

 

[TOS Phaser]

I believe, IIRC, that the phasers document we’ve all seen is a remittance advice, not an invoice. I don’t recall what the other one is, but if they’re not both the same type of document, there’s no reason their numbers would tally. (A remittance advice is a document produced by accounting to show that a check has issued, and often accompanies the check.) The documents are both, IIRC, on Desilu letterhead, which means they are not invoices from Wah to Desilu, but documents emanating from Desilu. OTOH, I may have this all confused with the tricorders document. Maybe someone could post images of them?

Asalaw, thank you - my use of the word "invoice" was incorrect. An "invoice" is what Wah would have sent to Desilu for payment. ("Remittance Advice" is even written by the document number.) (1)

BTW - the Desilu Productions Inc., Remittance Advice for Wah's "reworking [of the] phasers" was number: 43977 and was paid 25Sep1966.
Wah's Vendor number was: 0407.
Wah submitted invoice number: 7761 on 22Aug1966.
He received $520.00.

And apparently Wah charged Desilu $1,019.20 for "designing and making two practical and eight dummy communicators". (2)

(1) Star Trek Sketchbook: The Original Series, page 238
(2) Ibid 1, page 239