Aliens: Colonial Marines

Sorry, I should have clarified. I meant in all these newer modern ones like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Medal of honor, etc. as I understand it, women in the American military are still not allowed into combat roles?

I have no Problem with women in shooters, I just don't really care whether they're in them or not.

Also Dietrich could of totally passed for a guy ;)
 
Yeah. Her presence in the game really put the roles of Ripley and Vasquez to shame by being the chick who's only real purpose is for our hero to rescue near the end and stuff her in a fridge while he goes out and does all the heroic stuff. It's kind of like comparing Samus Aran to Princess Peach. One is a intergalaxtic mercenary/bounty hunter who has fought armies of pirates, deadly life sucking aliens and gigantic alien dragons. The other is a Princess who gets captured by the same boss over and over again. That's pretty much your comparison here.

Want another minor point? The Dropship pilot in AvP2 is also female. Congratulations. The franchise is now vindicated.

I didn't actually finish the game (mostly because it was kinda boring), so I have no idea if her only point is to be rescued. All I was saying is that we had a female marine in the game. I actually see no reason NOT to include female marines, or to let players choose a female character to play if they want. I wasn't suggesting anything about the franchise, either. Just pointing out that she was there. I don't know a ton of people who played the 2010 AVP, so I have no idea how familiar you or anyone else is with it.


In other words, I wasn't trying to attack, undermine, or belittle you, so spare me the snark.
 
In other words, I wasn't trying to attack, undermine, or belittle you, so spare me the snark.

I can respect that. I guess I was being snarky for snarky's sake. I just don't like uninformed argument points no matter how minor they may be. Especially when they miss the my whole point of the ALIENS franchise, a very gender friendly series being reduced to a macho sausage fest with the female characters acting used solely to benefit the male player character. Yes, there's probably a female character in there somewhere, but outside of two handheld games, there isn't a single ALIENS game where you play as a female marine protagonist.

And going along with Joa in his "No One Lives Forever" link, I'll throw in Star Trek: Elite Force. That was a first person shooter where you played a member of an elite security team on Voyager. This was a unique first person shooter because while you were stuck with a named character, you got to pick what gender the character was. Both parts were were even fully voiced. Outside of that, it's also one of the best Star Trek games out there.
 
I didn't actually finish the game (mostly because it was kinda boring), so I have no idea if her only point is to be rescued. All I was saying is that we had a female marine in the game. I actually see no reason NOT to include female marines, or to let players choose a female character to play if they want. I wasn't suggesting anything about the franchise, either. Just pointing out that she was there. I don't know a ton of people who played the 2010 AVP, so I have no idea how familiar you or anyone else is with it.

As I was one the people who did and am still playing it(mostly to prep for colonial marines). Although Tequila seems like she will kick some butt in the beginning levels

opens up a steam valve to blast a alien that has you trapped in a room in the 1st level

in the 4th level after you save her she kills a alien or two at the very end right before unlocking a door in the bottom of the arena to let you end that level

in the next level kills a battle android or two, and a few aliens

indeed in my mind she does not really seem like the "badass" of Vasquez or Ripley, she seems just a helpless soldier you have to save on the battle field. I for one am rooting they have playable Females in MP, even if it is added later with some DLC. I usually enjoy making a hot kick butt chick in MMO's. I also think that any game based on Aliens franchise should make a kick butt female or two!
 

John Mulky: There's no negotiating with this thing. It's... It's going to kill you.

No, it's going to incapacitate you, wrap you up in secreted resign, let a face hugger orally rape you, which leads to a little alien embryo that kills you by eating it's way through your chest. They're not really killing machines. They're very scary looking parasites who reproduce at your expense!

Mikey Neumann: We have a lot more marines this time around.

And a lot less of something else.... I think everyone here knows what I'm talking about. :thumbsup

Mikey Neumann: We wanted to go as diverse as possible and create a group of people that make it feel like a bada** alien experience.

That would mean something if we could play as as a diverse character instead of being forced to play as a super powered caucasian male space marine.

Mikey Neumann: We're approaching the first person shooter differently.

Again, SUPER POWERED CAUCASIAN MALE SPACE MARINE! That's not different!

Also, new trailer, still no female characters shown.
 

I like this.

Brian Martel: When you're dealing with suspense and horror, you really have to get to know characters and really have time with them to really understand and feel the loss when they're taken by the aliens.

And the only thing they have to showcase this development?

Unnamed Marine #1: Great. Now my freaking tracker is broken.
Unnamed Marine #2: Just watch for red dots.
Unnamed Marine #1: But I'm telling you, it won't- *Dies*

Also, still no female characters.
 
I know the footage from the last video posted isnt from the finished game, so I'm hoping there's still tweaking to be done but I have to ask... What's up with the sound of the pulse rifle firing? Sounded way off. What makes it more strange is one of the guys working on it was bragging about getting to use the original audio sounds for the tracker and what not.
 
ALIENS: Colonial Marines Will Indeed Have Female Characters, Gearbox Says

And it ain't the kind of female characters that I was told would be in the game (female scientist + damsel + love interest).

I'm still curious about the female skeleton and animation issue. Anyone ever play Mass Effect 1 and 2? They had a female Shepard skeleton but it used male Shepard's same exact animation. NOBODY CARED until FemShep did stuff that was completely inappropriate like sitting down with her legs spread out while wearing a short black skirt dress, and she isn't trying to seduce anyone. If GearBox would have just made the animations more generalized, I don't anyone would raise a fuss about their animations looking similar. After all, they're the marines! They march in formation!

Still wish it gave us the option to play as one of these characters besides Winters, but this is very welcome news. Anyone want to play co-op? :D
 
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I seriously can't wait for this. It might actually be the thing that makes me finally want Xbox Live.
 
Hmm... In that vid they say we get to learn the fate of Burke (and one other character ;)) but we already KNOW what happened to him! (But then I guess deleted scenes are not canon...)
 
February cannot come soon enough. I can't wait to play this.

Aliens: Colonial Marines - Escape Mode Trailer - YouTube

Do not get me wrong I am a huge Aliens fanatic, and am very much looking forward to this game and mode. From the looks of that mode though it is a mix of LFD 1 or 2 Survivor(the massive spawns of aliens players will control) and campaign mode(getting from 1 place that is safe to re arm/heal up etc) to the next. I am sure this will be a bit more randomized then the story mode of the game of going from Starting Escape point A to Escape Point B. However that is just my 2 cents.
 
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Shame they still haven't gotten the motion tracker right, red and blue dots, not to mention the idiotic arrows, the compass :facepalm

Most of the other stuff looks pretty good.
 
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