We'll see how light years ahead your thinking is....
Here's an in-depth explanation of the Don Post lineage of helmets.
You can take the in-depth version and integrate it into chart form.
Bold text indicates a generational change.
UK ANH mold base casting sent to Don Post (to use as basis for their commercial mask line.)
Prove it. There's nothing to indicate that. Don Post used the original ANH. They had the original costume at DP studios, Gino.
DP heavily modifies that casting in an attempt to make the helmet more symmetrical.
(Which later gets abandoned for an original sculpt-known as the cheap plastic DP original Vader mask).
That isn't your original theory Gino. You didn't work for someone who worked for DP did you? You know who did.
This modified casting became the DP ANH1 master.
This modifiet helmet is then molded by DP and becomes the DP ANH1.
And where are these helmets you give names to Gino? You are making up a lineage and giving names to hypothetical castings. I name real castings, not hypothetical ones.
All we know is that DP had the original ANH helmet and molded it. Then something from that was obviously modified and led to the GH/Fyberdyne line.
A DP ANH1 casting has a cabinet latch affixed to the forehead as a means to try to keep the dome secured to the forehead.
This helmet is molded again and becomes the DP ANH2 casting.
Oh, really? When did they secure the latch Gino? And what makes you know for a fact that there was no latch on what you call the DP ANH1? The father of the Fyberdyne had a latch. You are giving that its own generation beyond whatever it was that DP finally ended up making from the original ANH. That shows lack of parsimony, you are adding more generations than you even know about.
DP sells off it's only known remaining DP ANH1 casting to Jeff (JW).
DP ANH1 casting becomes the JW ANH1 master.
That's a lie. Where is this casting? You know Jeff and yet you have never shown anything like that. You've only shown your GH ANH, GH ROTJ, and Jeff castings that look like them.
Jeff got a casting from the RS mold, and was selling castings himself in the early 1990s. Don Post never dealt with Jeff W. Don't try to paint what Jeff got as coming from DP directly because that isn't true.
By the way, Jeff got his ROTJ helmet WITHOUT PERMISSION and made a copy for you WITHOUT PERMISSION. That makes him a recaster. The person Jeff got the helmet from would not have given Jeff authorization to make copies.
THAT is why Jeff doesn't post here. You have been using this Jeff story against GH to bolster your own copies of his castings.
Jeff has to state his case for himself here (and there is nothing stopping him from doing so).
DP also sells off it's only known remaining DP ANH2 casting to JW.
DP ANH2 casting becomes the JW ANH2 master.
Oh, so then I suppose Jeff has a DP casting with an original forehead latch in it? Show it then.
This is where the JW ANH 1 and 2 split off into different branches.
I'll mark them with an **SPLIT**
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The JW ANH1 master (the one without the forehead latch) is molded and becomes the JW ANH1
You are creating a tree from? What? Where is the casting? We need a photo to include it in the tree, Gino. It has to be a real casting not something you made up.
As to keep the risk of being recast low, JW only ever sold JW ANH1 castings to two people. Myself and GH. My casting was sold years ago.
Why is that? Why sell it if it has such provenance? :rolleyes
And you don't seem to recall that JW didn't sell GH anything, they traded. But I guess that slipped your mind?
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A JW ANH1 casting is sold to GH and becomes the GH ANH1 master.
GH recasts it as well as a set of chest armor without JW's permission (according to JW) and that becomes the GH ANH1.
JW got his armor from a source he was not authorized himself to make copies of Gino. And again, they traded, it wasn't a sale. And just as GH provided no stipulations as to what he traded Jeff, so to did Jeff provide no stipulations to GH. So if you are going to accuse GH of recasting yet again, I'll remind you and the mods that we've been through this before but it seems Gino won't quit wrongfully accusing others of recasting.
A GH ANH1 casting is heavily cleaned up/modified and then molded.
This becomes the GH ANH2.
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The GH ANH2 casting are what was sold to people (the one with the extra wide neck).
Funny how the casting you showed coming from Jeff was basically identical to the GH master. And the copies GH sold from the first run only had the right nailmark modified, nothing else. The second batch had narrower necks but that was all. And you know it.
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The JW ANH2 master (the one with the forehead latch) is molded and becomes the JW ANH2.
It was clear the JW ANH2 master had been much more cleaned up and warped than the JW ANH1 master, but JW did not know why, and the person from DP who sold them to him did not know why either.
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JW sold lots of JW ANH2 castings back in the late 80's early 90's. He sold some of them to a place in LA called Steve's Lost Land of Toys, who sold them for him via consignment.
So much for your theory....the warped Fyberdynes were simply poor Fyberdyne copies, Gino. And it wasn't in the late 80s, it was in the early 90s.
You are thinking of castings like this as being the JW ANH2??? So you are saying Jeff sold castings like this? Come on.
Here is the Fyberdyne as Jeff was selling them sitting next to the Darth Jones ANH mask. So the ones that Jeff were selling were not the ANH2 as you call them, but the ANH1 as you call them. Or just the Fyberdyne, because there is no ANH1 and ANH2. Just the Fyberdyne and bad copies of them.
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Fyberdyne buys a JW ANH2 casting from Steve's Lost Land of Toys.
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The JW ANH2 casting becomes the Fyberdyne ANH master.
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The Fyberdyne ANH master is molded.
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Those casts are the Fyberdyne ANH1.
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Fyberdyne ANH1 castings are made available to only a small handful of people.
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Due to the loss of the original Fyberdyne ANH1 dome mold, a new hand scupted dome is created and paired with the Fyberdyne ANH1 castings
Come on, where was this mold? If you say there was a Fyberdyne ANH1 then show the dome. Yet you say that the ANH2 has a resculpted dome? Resculpted from what? The ANH1? So were the handful of ANH1s sold with domes? If so then why didn't they just remold an ANH1 dome? Logic?
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This creates the Fyberdyne ANH2 and was made available on a larger scale than the Fyberdyne ANH1
Funny because all the Fyberdynes had latches on them.
The story of the JW ROTJ goes like this. LFL sent MB Prod. a LFL tour helmet casting to use as the basis for their life size Vader statue.
This tour helmet mold is one with the ring cast into the top of the helmet, not the Rick Baker tour helmet mold in the archives.
I'm the one who said that the ILM mold was made by Rick Baker, remember that the neck time you refer to the ILM mold by that name. Again you are using information I provided, as usual.
Later MB sold that original LFL tour helmet casting to JW.
No, Gino. That is a lie.
MB would never have let Jeff have ANYTHING. If Jeff got anything through knowing MB, then they were obtained underhandedly, without MB's permission. MB has never dealt with JW, Gino. The mods are at liberty to contact MB and verify this.
JW molded this helmet (JW ROTJ) and sold one casting to GH, and also a casting to myself years later. I sold off my copy years ago.
GH recast the JW ROTJ without his permission (according to JW) and sold copies (GH ROTJ).
Gino, why is it that in my thread you bring up yet again a matter that was resolved years ago? It was Jeff's word against GH, but now it is Jeff's word against GH and MB. Which means you accused GH of recasting when Jeff himself is a recaster and that is why he doesn't post here.
You have simply used Jeff as a means to discredit GH, as you do with everyone else here that threatens your ego in some way.
