Captain America: Civil War (Post-release)
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Goldhawk
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I definitely agree that he knows his own limitations an capabilities. It wouldn't make sense if he didn't. I got the impression from WS that he was pretty confident about his abilities, maybe a little too confident. After WS, though, it seems to me he spent a lot of time preparing to take on Steve and Widow again.
If he's been going around working as a mercenary though, I wonder why it's taken Steve and the Avengers 2 years to catch up with him. And who really hired him to steal the bio hazard.
TKRalph
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I'm confused. Can some folks here explain some things:
* War Machine is present when Rogers, Wilson, Barnes, and T'Challa were arrested in Bucharest...then later Barnes tries to escape because of Zemo, Some members of Team Iron Man tries to stop Barnes....Where was Rhodes all of a sudden?
* In The Winter Soldier...Barnes only required to have his mind wiped. No trigger words required.
* Where was Nick Fury? Could he have supported the Sokovia Accords? Mediate tension among the Avengers? Does he have authority over Secretary of State Ross?
* War Machine is present when Rogers, Wilson, Barnes, and T'Challa were arrested in Bucharest...then later Barnes tries to escape because of Zemo, Some members of Team Iron Man tries to stop Barnes....Where was Rhodes all of a sudden?
* In The Winter Soldier...Barnes only required to have his mind wiped. No trigger words required.
* Where was Nick Fury? Could he have supported the Sokovia Accords? Mediate tension among the Avengers? Does he have authority over Secretary of State Ross?
Fawbish
Sr Member
Answers above.
Regarding Crossbones"
I got the strong impression that was part of Zemo's puppet-master-ing.
--Jonah
I got the strong impression that was part of Zemo's puppet-master-ing.
--Jonah
Goldhawk
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I agree with this. He has to retain memories of his fighting skills and stealth skills etc. otherwise he would be useless to H.Y.D.R.A. Personally, I always thought that they completely wiped him when he was first captured, and all subsequent wipes were to reinforce the first one or because he had just been unfrozen and they had to make sure he was still under their control.
Regarding winter soldier, Pierce leaves the room before the memory wipe has really started, so we don't see if they used the triggerwords or not. Personally, I think they did. Pierce said to reset Bucky, and those wordsseem to be key to controlling him.
Fawbish
Sr Member
Even though I was also onboard with this, it does bring up a slight inconsitency.
Bucky says he remembers every kill.
So the "wiping" must only be temporarily wiping recent memories? So technically not even wiping. More like electrically induced suppression of self.
It's probably for the same reason he doesn't forget how to fight, speak English or use the toilet.
Mektar
Sr Member
unfortenatly only just seen this as alot has been going on recently.
It was good. Winter soldier still my fav marvel movie closely followed by this so its nice to see that so far avengers: infinity wars is in good hands.
The action was great, especially the black panther who as i expected would be 1 of my fav parts of the movie. His stand alone is now prob 1 of my most anticipated movies to come. Spidey finally has the look and attitude i was waiting for so there might finallly be a stand alone that can delve further into spidey's world. Cannot forget giant man altho did he seem a bit slow at times to any1? Widow yet again did nothing for me and just not a character that im interested in anymore altho that might have something to do with the part that ruined age of ultron for me.
Last scene though with cap, iron man and bucky was quite the twist and i loved it. Especially RDJ his performance. Was it a grand scale civil war? Not really tho as it felt more like a minor dispute at times and not on the scale that i expected it to be. So thats why i liked the movie but i might have expected too much hence i wasnt mind blown.
It was good. Winter soldier still my fav marvel movie closely followed by this so its nice to see that so far avengers: infinity wars is in good hands.
The action was great, especially the black panther who as i expected would be 1 of my fav parts of the movie. His stand alone is now prob 1 of my most anticipated movies to come. Spidey finally has the look and attitude i was waiting for so there might finallly be a stand alone that can delve further into spidey's world. Cannot forget giant man altho did he seem a bit slow at times to any1? Widow yet again did nothing for me and just not a character that im interested in anymore altho that might have something to do with the part that ruined age of ultron for me.
Last scene though with cap, iron man and bucky was quite the twist and i loved it. Especially RDJ his performance. Was it a grand scale civil war? Not really tho as it felt more like a minor dispute at times and not on the scale that i expected it to be. So thats why i liked the movie but i might have expected too much hence i wasnt mind blown.
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maffhewdc
Sr Member
I just watched it one last time, and I'm surprised nobody's discussing this. In the first mission, Cap had the Avengers logo on the shoulders of his uniform. Then the Accords came into play, he kinda went rogue with Wilson, and then the next time he wore his uniform (which is when he finds Bucky), the Avengers logo is gone. The logo was gone until the very end. I can see how he feels like he's no longer a part of the Avengers because of that. God, it's the minor details that make the film really great.
Now I have a reason to watch it yet again. Thanks!
Ok. I started binge watching Community from season 1 and it's been terrific. I'm now on season 3 and starting from episode 4 it's getting weak. Episode 4 was the dice-roll/alternate reality episode which was a high-concept but not funny at all. Episode 5 isn't looking that much better either. I expected to at least have a couple more episodes before it went downhill. Is this where people say it started to drop off?
maffhewdc
Sr Member
Those episodes were kind of like the signs that the show's not doing so good. It all goes down with the episode after the Christmas episode. The show took a 3-month hiatus in between the Christmas episode and the next and returned with bad results.
joshvanrad
Sr Member
Season 3 has it's weak spots, but it also has some of my favorite episodes, so try and stick it out.
The show was undoubtedly it's strongest during the first 2 seasons, but it hits occasional high notes through the season 6 finale. It's definitely all worth watching, even at it's weakest.
TKRalph
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Just saw the film again and I just noticed something about Vision during the airport battle scene: He tries to stop Team Cap from running, cannonball Giant-Man, shield Black Panther from getting hit by a bus, try to stop Rogers and Barnes from leaving the airport, and accidentally hitting War Machine instead of Falcon...
So during the battle, who was Vision fighting one-on-one? No one seemed to really fight him hand-to-hand combat. I think Vision was a little undermined in the battle. He could have beat most of Team Cap in my opinion.
So during the battle, who was Vision fighting one-on-one? No one seemed to really fight him hand-to-hand combat. I think Vision was a little undermined in the battle. He could have beat most of Team Cap in my opinion.
Stick with it, even season 4 has some gems in it. Watch it till the series finale, you won't regret it. It pays off despite some of the missing cast members. You can then chime in this thread to discuss more. http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=85679
maffhewdc
Sr Member
Wanda would have been the only match for Vision. Nobody else in Team Cap dared to take on Vision since they knew how OP he is.
EDIT: as I remember from the teams charging each other, Hawkeye was the first to try to hit Vision with an arrow which just phases through him
