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    Dec 4, 2016, 11:47 AM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3001

    Does anyone know how many (if there are any) screen-used original trilogy Graflex sabers still exist besides the "Skywalker ranch" saber? I know the tape and it's overall condition are not screen accurate, but I'd like to know if any others survived and have been documented?

    Also, has anyone read Roger Christian's book Cinema Alchemist? I know he designed the original lightsaber, and he's featured on starwars.com in this video holding the
    Skywalker ranch saber
    http://www.starwars.com/video/design...rom-the-inside

    But he's seen in this video holding one that more resembles the ANH version.
    https://youtu.be/tTn27yHN9Gc

    I'd like to know if his book offers anything beyond what he says in these interviews.

    Thanks guys!


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    Dec 4, 2016, 12:52 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3002

    Interestingly enough, this one doesn't appear to have the grips tapered at the end.


    Has the accurate exposed Graflex clamp as well






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    Dec 4, 2016, 1:42 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3003

    Kbuckne4 said: View Post
    Does anyone know how many (if there are any) screen-used original trilogy Graflex sabers still exist besides the "Skywalker ranch" saber? I know the tape and it's overall condition are not screen accurate, but I'd like to know if any others survived and have been documented?

    Also, has anyone read Roger Christian's book Cinema Alchemist? I know he designed the original lightsaber, and he's featured on starwars.com in this video holding the
    Skywalker ranch saber
    http://www.starwars.com/video/design...rom-the-inside

    But he's seen in this video holding one that more resembles the ANH version.
    https://youtu.be/tTn27yHN9Gc

    I'd like to know if his book offers anything beyond what he says in these interviews.

    Thanks guys!


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    I've never seen this video before! thanks for sharing it. so roger is claiming the saber he holds in his hand right there is the actual saber in obiwans chest?
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    Dec 4, 2016, 2:08 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3004

    halliwax said: View Post
    I've never seen this video before! thanks for sharing it. so roger is claiming the saber he holds in his hand right there is the actual saber in obiwans chest?
    That would be cool if it is!


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    Dec 4, 2016, 2:09 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3005

    yeah i dont know if he was referring to a "graflex" that was in the box or that being the actual graflex
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    Dec 4, 2016, 2:09 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3006

    Kbuckne4 said: View Post
    That would be cool if it is!


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    They are handling it with gloves. He's not handling the one on the radio interview with gloves.


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    Dec 4, 2016, 2:25 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3007

    found more to the video, sounds like roger replicated this lightsaber


    he also mentions he super glued the grips on
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    Dec 4, 2016, 2:33 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3008

    halliwax said: View Post
    found more to the video, sounds like roger replicated this lightsaber
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po8pL3Iv5RU

    he also mentions he super glued the grips on
    Excellent find!!! I didn't even see that!!


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    Dec 4, 2016, 4:20 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3009

    I'm sure others have seen this already but I just noticed it at my local bookseller. Don't recall seeing this promo shot before of Finn holding the TFA lightsaber complete with antenna protruding from the bottom of the hilt.Click image for larger version. 

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    Dec 4, 2016, 4:26 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3010

    I'm sure others have seen this already but I just noticed it at my local bookseller. Don't recall seeing this promo shot before of Finn holding the TFA lightsaber complete with antenna protruding from the bottom of the hilt.Click image for larger version. 

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    Dec 4, 2016, 5:03 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3011

    nasaworm said: View Post
    I'm sure others have seen this already but I just noticed it at my local bookseller. Don't recall seeing this promo shot before of Finn holding the TFA lightsaber complete with antenna protruding from the bottom of the hilt.Click image for larger version. 

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    this is new to me!! im going to have to check my local book store, i would love to see more of the antenna
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    Dec 4, 2016, 5:14 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3012

    Antenna, and a slide switch!


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    Dec 4, 2016, 6:08 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3013

    And black ring around the base.
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    Dec 4, 2016, 6:21 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3014

    Wasn't the antenna for the mapping the blade movement for post? So wasn't that on the softy stunts? That thing looks pretty metal. In fact-- look at the weathering on the grips-- that makes them look metallic. Could be paint-- but still.. and are those rivets?
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    Dec 4, 2016, 7:05 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3015

    Can you make out on the photo if those are torex heads... maybe even hex? Could be rivets as well. Lots of detail down there on the enlargement of the photo. Can even make out ribbing in the antenna.
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    Dec 5, 2016, 7:27 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3016

    Alright, I did it.

    I read all 121 pages of this thread, the 59 pages of Roman's thread, and the 19 pages of the Graflex Variations thread, in the last week. All I have to say is wow. I am so thankful this community exists and that you all spread your collective knowledge!

    Oh, and I am HOOKED. I ordered a Roman Graflex after about halfway through reading his thread, and seeing how much work he had done. Couldn't waste an opportunity to snag such a perfect replica! And then today... I went and bought a genuine one. Hate to pay the prices that these are at now, but I think i found a good deal. I lost out yesterday on a really nice 3 cell, but picked up a 2 cell instead that I am hoping to find a 3 cell bottom for. I have reservations about permanently riveting/ screwing the T tracks into a real one, so I ordered an ANH kit from Roy for the real one, and a TFA kit from Roman for that build.

    I am extremely excited for both builds, but this thread really inspired me. I grew up with the OT, and seeing this saber back on screen.... it felt so good. I damn near cried with joy when the trailer with Han and Chewie came out. So this build will probably be my favorite one, and I may do a crystal reveal later. The ANH build will be more historical, and will likely never come out from its case except on special occasions. I'm imagining that the TFA saber will live on my desk.

    Looking forward to posting some photos soon.
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    Dec 5, 2016, 8:26 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3017

    SteakSauce said: View Post
    Alright, I did it.

    I read all 121 pages of this thread, the 59 pages of Roman's thread, and the 19 pages of the Graflex Variations thread, in the last week. All I have to say is wow. I am so thankful this community exists and that you all spread your collective knowledge!

    Oh, and I am HOOKED. I ordered a Roman Graflex after about halfway through reading his thread, and seeing how much work he had done. Couldn't waste an opportunity to snag such a perfect replica! And then today... I went and bought a genuine one. Hate to pay the prices that these are at now, but I think i found a good deal. I lost out yesterday on a really nice 3 cell, but picked up a 2 cell instead that I am hoping to find a 3 cell bottom for. I have reservations about permanently riveting/ screwing the T tracks into a real one, so I ordered an ANH kit from Roy for the real one, and a TFA kit from Roman for that build.

    I am extremely excited for both builds, but this thread really inspired me. I grew up with the OT, and seeing this saber back on screen.... it felt so good. I damn near cried with joy when the trailer with Han and Chewie came out. So this build will probably be my favorite one, and I may do a crystal reveal later. The ANH build will be more historical, and will likely never come out from its case except on special occasions. I'm imagining that the TFA saber will live on my desk.

    Looking forward to posting some photos soon.
    Welcome! Yes as I am discovering this can be very addicting! Can't wait to see how your builds turn out!


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    Dec 5, 2016, 9:36 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3018

    SteakSauce said: View Post
    Alright, I did it.

    I read all 121 pages of this thread, the 59 pages of Roman's thread, and the 19 pages of the Graflex Variations thread, in the last week. All I have to say is wow. I am so thankful this community exists and that you all spread your collective knowledge!

    Oh, and I am HOOKED. I ordered a Roman Graflex after about halfway through reading his thread, and seeing how much work he had done. Couldn't waste an opportunity to snag such a perfect replica! And then today... I went and bought a genuine one. Hate to pay the prices that these are at now, but I think i found a good deal. I lost out yesterday on a really nice 3 cell, but picked up a 2 cell instead that I am hoping to find a 3 cell bottom for. I have reservations about permanently riveting/ screwing the T tracks into a real one, so I ordered an ANH kit from Roy for the real one, and a TFA kit from Roman for that build.

    I am extremely excited for both builds, but this thread really inspired me. I grew up with the OT, and seeing this saber back on screen.... it felt so good. I damn near cried with joy when the trailer with Han and Chewie came out. So this build will probably be my favorite one, and I may do a crystal reveal later. The ANH build will be more historical, and will likely never come out from its case except on special occasions. I'm imagining that the TFA saber will live on my desk.

    Looking forward to posting some photos soon.
    Welcome aboard! It's a crazy, expensive ride, but so worth it! I'm on my 2nd vintage Graflex with a Roman's on the way. Roy's parts are the best and I love Slothfurnace's clamp cards.

    Be sure to post pics of your builds!


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    Dec 5, 2016, 10:25 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3019

    SteakSauce said: View Post
    Alright, I did it.

    I read all 121 pages of this thread, the 59 pages of Roman's thread, and the 19 pages of the Graflex Variations thread, in the last week. All I have to say is wow. I am so thankful this community exists and that you all spread your collective knowledge!

    Oh, and I am HOOKED. I ordered a Roman Graflex after about halfway through reading his thread, and seeing how much work he had done. Couldn't waste an opportunity to snag such a perfect replica! And then today... I went and bought a genuine one. Hate to pay the prices that these are at now, but I think i found a good deal. I lost out yesterday on a really nice 3 cell, but picked up a 2 cell instead that I am hoping to find a 3 cell bottom for. I have reservations about permanently riveting/ screwing the T tracks into a real one, so I ordered an ANH kit from Roy for the real one, and a TFA kit from Roman for that build.

    I am extremely excited for both builds, but this thread really inspired me. I grew up with the OT, and seeing this saber back on screen.... it felt so good. I damn near cried with joy when the trailer with Han and Chewie came out. So this build will probably be my favorite one, and I may do a crystal reveal later. The ANH build will be more historical, and will likely never come out from its case except on special occasions. I'm imagining that the TFA saber will live on my desk.

    Looking forward to posting some photos soon.
    congratulations! you have completed the graftex initiation.
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    Dec 6, 2016, 10:09 AM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3020

    Indeed welcome aboard SteakSauce ... looking forward to your G R A F L E X ANH lightsaber build

    @Kbuckne4 there's also the ROTJ Vader G R A F L E X based stuntlightsaber at the Lucasfilm Archives.

    Cha´m
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    Dec 6, 2016, 10:59 AM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3021

    Sym-Cha said: View Post
    Indeed welcome aboard SteakSauce ... looking forward to your G R A F L E X ANH lightsaber build

    @Kbuckne4 there's also the ROTJ Vader G R A F L E X based stuntlightsaber at the Lucasfilm Archives.

    Cha´m
    Thank you! I'm going to look that up!


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    Dec 7, 2016, 1:02 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3022

    fightercaptured said: View Post
    Welcome aboard! It's a crazy, expensive ride, but so worth it! I'm on my 2nd vintage Graflex with a Roman's on the way. Roy's parts are the best and I love Slothfurnace's clamp cards.

    Be sure to post pics of your builds!


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    halliwax said: View Post
    congratulations! you have completed the graftex initiation.
    Sym-Cha said: View Post
    Indeed welcome aboard SteakSauce ... looking forward to your G R A F L E X ANH lightsaber build

    @Kbuckne4 there's also the ROTJ Vader G R A F L E X based stuntlightsaber at the Lucasfilm Archives.

    Cha´m
    Kbuckne4 said: View Post
    Welcome! Yes as I am discovering this can be very addicting! Can't wait to see how your builds turn out!


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    Thanks for the welcome everyone!

    Couple of other things I forgot. I also picked up a replica graflex top tube without the bent tabs (actually my first purchase). I originally thought I would pick up all the parts from various vendors and build a TFA from scratch, but have since made my other purchases. I'm not really a fan of the ROTJ stunt vader saber, which I have now learned that these unbent versions are used for. Does anybody need one? It seems like plenty of people on this and Roman's thread are big fans of them. I am still trying to track down a 3 cell bottom to use on the ANH build, even if it is a replica. The other option is to build a fighting saber from it....

    Which brings me to what all got me started. I had a MR 05 Anakin ROTS saber that needed a ton of clean up. Recently I ended up replacing most of the internals with a kit from TCSS. But the outside is still pretty marred up from when I first took it apart back in the day. So I affectionately call that one my "illegitimate child" saber. I have a blade coming for it and will likely use that one for a battling blade or to let friends mess around with.

    Looking forward to posting some pictures soon!
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    Dec 7, 2016, 1:23 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3023

    The Vader ROTJ stunt was the very first lightsaber I laid my eyes on in a comic book shop in Amsterdam ... a long, long time ago . . . it was a custom G R A F L E X look-a-like replica with metal and resin parts . . . alas it was not for sale . . . so much later I found one made by GRAFLEX Reborn, which was the very first lightsaber I ever purchased before I even knew about the G R A F L E X flashguns . . . and eventhough it does smell heavily of iron, since the body is another metal than a real G R A F L E X, yet it's one of my favorite sabers amongst my extensive collection

    Cha´m
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    Dec 7, 2016, 3:59 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3024

    It's easy to see-- it's what Lucasfilm has been mistakenly calling the "hero" Vader light saber for a long time, using it as the model for toys and video games.
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    Dec 7, 2016, 5:23 PM - Re: TFA Graflex Research (That's a Graflex, right? Force Awakens teaser trailer #2) #3025

    Kbuckne4 said: View Post
    Interestingly enough, this one doesn't appear to have the grips tapered at the end.
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...71485d22c0.png

    Has the accurate exposed Graflex clamp as well

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d474a09773.png




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    So..

    That T track doesn't look right, the top edge looks hand filed

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