x-wing drawings?

[parabellum]

so, what is the over all length of x-wing suppose to be?

several sources say 12.5m
other sources say 15m or 16m etc

from the scale models, it is more like 13.5m

1inch = 25.4mm

any definite answers?

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

here's my current progress on my wings.
origially on my older 3d model they were sized off of the pyro bucks shown in Beaz's thread. but in this new model some bits have been pushed/pulled here and there, so i'm indeed interested to see how these are graded here.
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Wings are a damn mystery to me as I still haven't found a trustworthy ortho plan view in all the ref. with the possible exception of one of Jason's Red 3 photos.

I have a fair idea that pyro wings are about 4mm shorter than hero wings. I've done a lot of extrapolating ratios from dead-on front views of pyros and heroes, and I keep coming up with this 4mm diff. Could be bollocks, though.

In extending my V3 wings by about 3 or 5mm each (the wings I got were of different sizes!), I have found that the extension makes the inside wingtip panel the right shape for a hero. But it makes the recessed pits look too far away (still, they might be too small for a hero on the V3). And the panels topside are thrown out a bit.

In short, I don't bloody know... But yours look good...

 

[OylPslyk]

Wings are a damn mystery to me as I still haven't found a trustworthy ortho plan view in all the ref. with the possible exception of one of Jason's Red 3 photos.

I have a fair idea that pyro wings are about 5mm shorter than hero wings. I've done a lot of extrapolating ratios from dead-on front views of pyros and heroes, and I keep coming up with this 5mm diff. Could be bollocks, though.

In extending my V3 wings by about 3 or 5mm each (the wings I got were of different sizes!), I have found that the extension makes the inside wingtip panel the right shape for a hero. But it makes the recessed pits look too far away (still, they might be too small for a hero on the V3). And the panels topside are thrown out a bit.

In short, I don't bloody know... But yours look good...

tyvm kind sir!

i honestly cant remember if i lengthened my wings any, its is possible. the area i added to was the trailing edge, pulling it back a wee bit. my best refs are of the Red3 as well, so you can see from the chips and placements etc. that i'm doing a Red-3 version (at least to start, may as well evolve them all since its digital).

 

[Stormy320]

Why don't you guys ask the guy that married Winnie Cooper. He knows EVERYTHING about X-Wings, CAD, and Star Wars. He almost invented the X-Wing.

Oh yea - he was banned. :confused









MOve Along :love

 

[modeleers]

so, what is the over all length of x-wing suppose to be?

a good place to start. (...if, in fact, 1/24th scale is the know & accepted scale)

 

[OylPslyk]

to date in my cg models i've never really worried too much about overall length, since for one: references to real world size are so obscure, and secondly its such an easily fudge-able number based on where your engine, nose, & wing placement is (or whether you're using long or short engine nozles).

 

[Lancer]

well a certain person who is now banned on here did an amazing x-wing. mine isn't up to that snuff on paint when it comes to visuals but shape wise isn't bad. I certainly don't claim that every panel line or chip is in the right place, but mine looks like an x-wing and I'm happy with her as she is

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/25221-getting-ilm-look-tech-advice-needed-2.html

 

[ILMwannabe]

to date in my cg models i've never really worried too much about overall length, since for one: references to real world size are so obscure, and secondly its such an easily fudge-able number based on where your engine, nose, & wing placement is (or whether you're using long or short engine nozles).

Good point. A more useful dimension perhaps would be "fuselage length" and relative distances between points of interest, such as cockpit frame, topredo tubes, wing mounting ponts, etc.

 

[parabellum]

Good point. A more useful dimension perhaps would be "fuselage length" and relative distances between points of interest, such as cockpit frame, topredo tubes, wing mounting ponts, etc.

one dimension that is most certain is the diameter of R2 unit's head.

according to R2 Builders Club, it is definitely 18.5 inches.
the body cylinder is little narrower at 18 inches.

I guess one can deduce the rest of the ship's dimension from this
reference point.

what is the fuselage length that you are using?

 

[Fett_Ish]

Can I ask what folks are using for reference for these models? I am a 3D modeler working mostly in aerospace. I have built (mostly using cad data) all of Cessnas current fleet of jets (exteriors and interiors) and have done work for Boeing also using cad and blueprints. I have also built the exterior and interior of the Honda Jet, but only used photos for this. All of these models are for real time use but are still rather high poly counts. 3D Max is my tool of choice,and that is what my employer uses internally unless we get Maya or other data.

I guess I ask because going off photos for Honda Jet I was constantly tweeking geometry to make landmarks (Engines,doors,windows etc) line up. This is why all my x-wing meshes are unfinished,too much back and forth. I guess I am saying I want the reference you guys are using as I see some sweet 3D X-Wings.

 

[parabellum]

Can I ask what folks are using for reference for these models?

I guess inexpensive, most complete, reasonably accurate and readily available reference would be

Fine Molds 1/48 X-Wing model kit.

 

[OylPslyk]

aside from my fuse and wings, all my parts are built kitbash style and are built up from kit-scans of each vintage kit part.

 

[modeleers]

I guess inexpensive, most complete, reasonably accurate and readily available reference would be
Fine Molds 1/48 X-Wing model kit.

if I can get the length - in inches - (Nose to Tail / then Nose to End of Engines) of the FM 1:48 & (same) from a Built Salzo(?) V3 X -
I'd be uber-grateful!

 

[modeleers]

And please alow my 'back to basic' request. (re: fus-length)
I'm ol' school and See & build better if I fill-in the foundation.

On a side:
Had any of you seen this -

T-.065 EggsWing (still looks formidable!)

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

I guess inexpensive, most complete, reasonably accurate and readily available reference would be

Fine Molds 1/48 X-Wing model kit.

But the FM X is not very accurate, really, certainly not the fuselage or the way-off canopy.

Best to use ILM photos. Flintlock here is using some special magical software (check back the thread) to divine accurate dimensions from a mass of photos of the ILM Red 3. These can be found at a website called modeler magic. The famous top view of Red 3 taken by Richard Edlund is gold, because it's virtually an ortho plan view.

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

one dimension that is most certain is the diameter of R2 unit's head.

according to R2 Builders Club, it is definitely 18.5 inches.
the body cylinder is little narrower at 18 inches.

I guess one can deduce the rest of the ship's dimension from this
reference point.

what is the fuselage length that you are using?

For fuselage values, a good start would be to take measurements from the famous ortho Red 3 top shot, and using simple algebra, bring all the values up to the point where the Saturn V can diameter comes to 47. This 47mm on the can is a solid value on which to build since we know this is the size of the kit part.

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

if I can get the length - in inches - (Nose to Tail / then Nose to End of Engines) of the FM 1:48 & (same) from a Built Salzo(?) V3 X -
I'd be uber-grateful!

Can't give you inches. But the V3 is 49.5 cm nose to tail. I'm extending mine by 4mm. My model's only got 2 wings on, so I can't stand it on a table to take an accurate nose to engine tip measurement for you...

 

[Basherthrasher]

if I can get the length - in inches - (Nose to Tail / then Nose to End of Engines) of the FM 1:48 & (same) from a Built Salzo(?) V3 X -
I'd be uber-grateful!

The Salzo kit is 19" 1/2 inches I'm pretty sure. I don't know for 100%,as I've never put it together. It's still in the box. This is the measurement I've gotten from other people who have.

 

[ILMwannabe]

I took out my models last night and measured them. These approximate dimensions are only for the FUSELAGE LENGTH when assembled, not the overall length of the whole ship . . .

Estes Maxi-Brute:----19¾"
Salzo V3.1 (2009):---19¾" (when nose corrected & filled in) note that this is the 3.1 from 2009 not the V3
Hasbro Toy (2002):--17¾" (if nose sharpened, 18")
AMT Pro Shop:------13¾"
MPC (1978):---------10 7/8"
Fine Molds 1/72"------6.4" (6 7/16")

I don't have an EFX, but the fuselage was reported to be about 21" long.

Red 2 was reported to be 53 x 46 x 17cm (20.87”x 18.11” x 6.69”) but we do not know if that is the overall length or the fuselage length.

Both the Estes & the V3.1 are the same length as castings the original "pyros" were reported to be.

Hope this is helpful . . .

 

[modeleers]

...the V3 is 49.5 cm nose to tail.

= 19.488189 inches / rounds up to 19.5 (= 38 ft. in 1/24th)

meaning: if the Salzo V3's' R2' dome is Exactly 3/4 of an inch (round) - we have a very accurate 1/24th scale place to start.

Dose anyone have a SV3 built so we can get the nose to engine - length in inches?

AND Thanx again (& my apologies) for asking yous guys to jump through hoops! , but it's always best - to start from the absolute beginning, (if you plan to see it through to the end).