X-Men 2 Carphone

[superDrool]

Stainless steel you say...
I'm all about keeping to the original on screen and if we/ you guys can mold and cast the buttons into dense rubber that'd be pretty darn sweet. But if then cast in SS, then it could also be painted which would last much longer than any rubber really. The only issue is paint chipping/flaking. And in that case I'd use an enamel paint. But it may not look or feel as nice as the rubber grip. I'm torn... :/

That front and backside is BOSS, Jay. I truly think you nailed it finally. I also think you have a hit and may be in huge demand on your hands if the word gets out that this is can be a functional pop-out communicator. I know many sci-fi sites I frequent would jump on this once complete. I seriously can't contain myself now that I see the final rendering.

"The best damn prop kit EVER"

 

[jaybible]

Hey TB, get a thesaurus, plenty more words for awesome in there lol

Thanks very much guys, I really appreciate it and thanks for the leg work Deathsythe.. Im gonna ask some shapeways forum ppl if this would be possible in stainless. The first one will def be plastic, to work out any kinks as im sure there will be one or two. As for the mold, it would probably be best to do it the old fashioned way, its quick and easy. I have a plan on redoing the centre to house rubber side pieces if we end up doing down that road.

Ok here is the final render, all is done i think... I made a few changed for a better fit. Everything SHOULD fit together nicely.

I've come up with quite a few designs for the mechanism, but i think it all comes down to how big the bluetooth system is and also how much travel is required from the open to closed position..anyone want to take an educated guess at it??

Once we all do our trial and error on the spring system and we hopefully come up with a final design, I will add housing and fixtures into the phone so it all goes together nice and professionally

...So...Will i put this up in shapeways?? Im going to sell it in 5 parts. I will stick up links to buy if everyone is happy with the final design.

 

[TitaniumBat]

Hey TB, get a thesaurus, plenty more words for awesome in there lol.

:behave ... DOH!!

OK fair enough ... being at work I guess I've just been lazy :rolleyes

Jay the latest render is simply astonishing, your work here has been nothing less than awe-inspiring, this is quite the magnificent piece. Overall the majesticness is stupefying and wondrous. I'll be adding Jay=Awesome to wikipedia as soon as I'm done here. :lol

Obviously I'm happy with the design my only question is how are the peices going to be split? You said it's going to be in 5 pieces and there are 4 (front and back for the 2 half of the X) is the center section just going to be one piece and will it have a front?

Awesome Job Jay ...

 

[jaybible]

See i knew you could find more words haha

I did a quick exploded view...there is actually 6 parts, the 2 clips are the same.

I actually uploaded the parts to shapeways last night. I'll get links for them now....

Here is my shapeways shop, hope ye can load the page.It comes close to $45 for the kit for the white,flexible & strong material.
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/jbprops

 

[superDrool]

I'm up for the purchase.

I just now decided to think about the stops on the outer ear/mouth pieces. How will it stop? I think we need those sliders put in place at the inner portions of those two pieces. It should be as easy as miniature 'I beam' design that is strong yet takes up little room, or maybe an open box style that I can poke holes in the top corners for the 2 sets of springs for the action and one for the button. But we'll see I guess. I am okay with the final design.

Do they paint/color them? I know it was mentioned that they come in a plastic silver mix.
I noticed on the exploded view that the buttons seem to be stationary and part of the main shell, is that right? :/
So excited.

 

[TitaniumBat]

Well you know I'm up for order one ... but I though the top and bottom were going to be shelled like the pic below. That would make it a lot easier to figure out the latching mech and how to fit the blutooth. I also agree with SD about the buttons being stationary but those are easily cut/modified and since they will be tied to the latching mech no need to change them yet.

Either way I'm itching to buy but I thought before I leaped I'd ask first this time.

 

[jaybible]

Yeh they are infact all part of one solid piece. I did this to simplify the construction as i see this version as just a mock up for the mechanism. I was going to add in a more detailed middle piece with pockets for the final mechanism design.
When i was looking at the pics and vids it shows the sides as stationary and there is that small button on the lower left which probably accommodated a release button.

TB the top and bottom are shelled but i kept the front on. Access is still possible, if you bought 2 u could cut them up... I was going to make the missing from version available but wasnt sure it anyone was interested as i hadnt designed now the flat front would fit on comfortably.

Tbh I was going to buy this version and toy around with it and make a better version for ye guys..but ye are to giddy to wait lol

 

[superDrool]

Well, get to it! Chop-Chop! I can wait for creator to fine tune the shapeway version. :lol

Now that I see the push button on another monitor, I have an idea of how the button will side.
Maybe route out the center of each of the connector pieces that tie the buttons together and have a post on either end that acts as both a stop and spring holder? Does that make sense?

Trying to keep things bare basic here...

 

[jaybible]

hahaha.. I shall order the phone today

I think you will have to draw that!.. I think i get the idea, its just dimensional constraints that would be the issue. Being an engineer I always worry about wall thickness stresses, fatigue rates and how much spring is in a spring etc etc.. But if you can give me a drawing with dimensions I can do the maths and see if it would work

I agree that it needs to be as basic as possible and leave the centre area as spacious as possible. I might got hunting the smallest iphone bluetooth hands free kit i can find just to see how much room we have available.

Also i'm gonna draw up some pics of some mechanisms today.

 

[superDrool]

I'll sketch it and scan it when I get a chance, but it's just really hollowing out the center that connects the buttons. Just me thinking out loud here, but who cares if the push buttons act as one solid piece? So when you push to activate, the other side/button move outward too, or make it ambidexterous, so either button/side can activate the pop-out action? Spring-load both sides so the action returns to center not left or right. Did that one make sense? :lol

 

[jaybible]

.... That actually might work very well in increasing the useful area. I would mean there would be no latching bar running thru the middle.... Although then u might need a double latch. One on each side.. Then you'd have to push each side simultaneously to open it.

I can thing of a way to work it with one side having the latch at the side and the button pushing it out free.

I'm looking forward to seeing the sketch

 

[superDrool]

Apologies about the delay on scanning my sketch. But when my son was playing with my Nerf gun and I saw the trigger mechanics, it dawned on me as this is what I was thinking of and was going to crappily sketch and scan.

Hopefully you can see the post and the slot it rides in as well as the return spring, which is the same basic idea I have for the action on the phone.

 

[superDrool]

*BUMP* ....for suggestions. :behave

 

[Survivalist]

I had no idea this would be so accurate! Great work!

 

[deathscythe]

I watched X-2 again the other day, and noticed that when Logan opens the communicator in Bobbie's kitchen, it looks like only the bottom slides down. It didn't look like the top slid up at all...
I thought this whole time that top and bottom slid apart from the center section uniformly.

Am I just going crazy, or was I under the wrong impression previously about how this thing opens?

Yeah, SD, if I follow you- you're saying use this type of mechanism for the "trigger" button to activate the slide function? The sliding lower part would be latched when closed like a ****** spring action pistol, and when you push the button it would snap out.
I like it!

-Alex

 

[jaybible]

I think your gonna have to take apart that nerf gun

Sorry its been so long, i meant to put these pics up earlier. I apologise for the terrible quality as the gf is gone away with the good camera and im left with my iphone, which isn't exactly the best..and also i used my computer cam for the size comparison pic rather an awkward task!... oh and i forgot to order the middle piece lol..hence the big gap in the middle.

At the moment i think the phone is just to big. It will have to be scaled down. I also feel it needs to tilt a bit more inwards, which means im going to have to redo the curve on the central piece which isn't a big deal. There is a surprising amount of space in the phone which i wasnt expecting, so scaling it down should hinder making a decent sliding mechanism.

 

[thesyfyguy]

well most excellent job in your reproduction of the x phone. Now do you plan to put the blue tooth in it? and finish it off with the cradle for the car, as seen in the movie? If not I might try to take a stab at it and make the cradle for it.

 

[jaybible]

Thanks very much.. I plan on buying a cheap bluetooth ear piece and seeing how i can fit it in, along with a sliding mechanism. As for the cradle, I never really thought about making it but it would be a great idea as a display stand. Man if you can have a go at making it that would be awesome.

 

[thesyfyguy]

Well the only way I can make a accurate one is by remaking the phone so I can make a negative mold for the base. I thought it would be great if the metal piece in the center would also be the charger for the blue tooth.

 

[thesyfyguy]

I will doing the rough drawling now, but can't get started on the build for a couple of weeks. Need to find some liquid plastic and molding supplies. Along with actuators and motors to make it work like it did in the movie.