Wow Joe Johnston is a moron - Captain America

[Probe Droid]

As usual the real morons are here.

Starting with you. If you want to hang around, sonny, learn to be polite.

 

[themanwoaname]

cue "this is why i dont post much" response here....

 

[Zombie_61]

Now hang on a second here. Lest anyone feel the need to rush to the defense of the poor defenseless studios, let's all keep in mind that they only pick these characters (or remakes, or reboots, or sequels, or prequels, or launching of new franchises) based on their familiarity with the public. They depend on it in order to sell tickets. It's why you see so many of these kinds of projects happening now. Without that familiarity, yes, people would go in as blank slates....if they went in at all. I think the theory is that many more people WOULDN'T go in at all, just because they wouldn't know the backstory, characters, or have any preconceived notions (a.k.a. "brand familiarity") with the film.

So, I think it's entirely justified for existing fans -- the very people the studio is trying to lure into the theater, along with potential new fans -- to be irritated, nervous, concerned, overly optimistic, overly pessimistic, etc. about the film as news trickles out. It's the line the studios walk now as they take familiar product and try to put a new spin on it. Every time they do that, they take that risk willingly. Actually, more often than not, I think they cynically just do whatever the hell they want to attract the new fans, figuring that the existing fans are little more than junkies who CAN'T stay away and WILL go see the film regardless of how much they may have butchered the original material. And, of course, no matter HOW much they complain on the front end, the fans always end up proving them right.

It was never my intention to defend the studio, the director, the writers, the actors, or anyone else associated with this particular film. I was merely stating the fact that I have little to no knowledge of the titular character and his history, and therefore have no concerns over whether or not they're going to get every little detail right.

That said, I concur with everything you wrote in the section of your post that I quoted above. I'm unable to understand (for the most part) why studios, directors, writers, etc., decide to make a film about any established popular fictional character, then change many of the things that made the character popular in the first place. I understand they do so, in many cases, to either streamline the story they want to tell or to simply make the character more "accessible" to potential audience members who might be unfamiliar with said character. But making changes just for the sake of making changes is, IMO, unnecessary. As for the changes being made to Captain America, I can understand why they wouldn't want to transfer the character directly from his comic origins; America and the world in general are very different now compared to the way they were during WWII, and many of the anti-Japanese and anti-German sentiments that were popular in those days would be largely unacceptable today.

Comic book hero wardrobe, on the other hand...well, I can understand why filmmakers would want to avoid tights and such when they can; in a real-world sense, comic book costumes are simply ludicrous.

 

[Solo4114]

Comic book hero wardrobe, on the other hand...well, I can understand why filmmakers would want to avoid tights and such when they can; in a real-world sense, comic book costumes are simply ludicrous.

Huh? What do you mean?

 

[themanwoaname]

oh snap. some one went there!

 

[darth_myeek]

Huh? What do you mean?

Don't you blaspheme Evel Knieval.:angry

 

[Solo4114]

I'm not!!


I'm blaspheming Reb Brown. And he deserves it. Don't believe me? Watch the MST3K episode: Space Mutiny.

 

[goldenage]

Starting with you. If you want to hang around, sonny, learn to be polite.

I expected as much - My theory is if people are going to sling the word moron around then they ought to be able to hear it reflected back. Disagree? Fine I don't have an issue with that.

As to Cap A, he's a different guy depending on who is writing - the Cap of the 40's isn't the Cap of the 60's or of today - his motivations and actions change. Frank Miller and Brubacker have had a very unique approach to Cap and his attitude to the flag - miles from the "jingoistic" approach, but cannon, unlike people who will bleat about him not being "accurate" because they project their own simplistic political views onto the character.

The constant is that he's a patriot - but what that means, who the kid was and who he becomes in the suit has ALWAYS been open to reinvention.

I'll leave you angry citizens freaking out about a film that hasn't been made yet to go back to your over reacting and playing "I'm a bigger man in the RPF than you" now.