Wolverine all day baby! Jackets, belts, claws, oh my.

it's weird I really hate that I sold my WOlverine Jacket from PD Collection. I had it 2 years ago and I should have kept onto it. i doubt it was screen exact but the leather was thick and had a really good aged looked to it.

they still make it, but i don't think they create it in the same way material like they use to.. ahh bummer. :-/
 
That's okay, agliarept. You can fill that leather void with a Danson or Heron. Depending on your price range. ;)


MJF,
This project is not coming out the way we had hoped, is it? If they are only able to offer zinc tags, I'm down for one, as long as they look accurate. I can find a way to age it and keep the oxide at bay, or I'll try like hell. :lol

Did you ask about the possibility of nickel?
 
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superDrool said:
This project is not coming out the way we had hoped, is it?
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Boy, you ain't kidding. If this were any one of my previous projects, I would have had a quote and maybe even have these things in your hands by now.

superDrool said:
If they are only able to offer zinc tags, I'm down for one, as long as they look accurate. I can find a way to age it and keep the oxide at bay, or I'll try like hell.?
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It is the bare metal that is making this tough for the rep as they usually do not have such requests. I couls easily get tags made to look as we desired using regular methods which would be to cast in copper, silver tone plate and antique. That is great with pins but for something like these tags that will get beat around and deal with body sweat, I do not believe plating would hold up very well. I've seen people in the past make custom tags (like for the 501st) using the the plated metal the same as you see with plaques (like Icons and MR). And I know that the plating does not hold up well for those.

superDrool said:
Did you ask about the possibility of nickel?
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No, but I am going to do that right now.
 
And the answer to that is...

REP
We do not use nickel as a base metal so it is not an option to un plate it. The base metal is iron, copper, brass and steel.
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ME
But steel is off the table right?

Copper and brass are not the right color.

So that leaves just iron? In a previous email, you mentioned zinc. Is that still an option?
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And more...

REP
Zinc is more for 3-D or cut to shape initials or text. It is a thicker injection process and it is softer so I worry that in this large a piece with the cut out it will bend.
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ME
I do like the idea of iron. Can you check into the possibility of doing the tags in un-plated iron and a quote? Also, if they can do the antiquing on them, I would like that as well but if for some reason they cannot, it is not a big deal.
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Won't iron oxidize quicker than any other metal? I had no idea this was going to be as hard as it was to find the proper metal to cost effectiveness. I say do it in titanium or tungsten and get it over with. :p

Alright. I used the power of facebook and my knife making friends out there to collect some knowledge. We'll see if I receive any feedback. *crosses fingers...
 
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And no bids either. Looks like there might be some sniping at the last second or you might have to repost it with a lower starting bid. :/
 
superDrool said:
Won't iron oxidize quicker than any other metal? I had no idea this was going to be as hard as it was to find the proper metal to cost effectiveness. I say do it in titanium or tungsten and get it over with. :p
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Cost effectiveness had not even played into the decision at this point. Right now, it is about pre-production.

They are most likely refering to a die cast type of iron. I'd be lying if i said for sure how it would react as a tag. Will it rust or get rust spots? I do not know. It would be easy to clean using a little steel wool or high grit wet sand paper. We could consider plating these with the antique silver plating. I resisted plating prior because most of the time the metal underneath is copper so if the plating gets worn, you would see copper color metal exposed. However, with iron, the iron underneath would be a similar color and may not be as obvious.
 
Roger that. I do agree on all accounts. My friend brought up another option other than punch and stamping. How about creating a mold and casting from that. If that is feesible then wouldn't casting from that master mold be cheaper? My first concern is how reliable the mold would be in casting to make a decent tag that is consistent. If you can punch the thicker metal and CNC/milling is too expensive or not in the abilities of the company your going through. Why not cast the tags in steel or whatever metal that plays the part?
 
Okay...
So we've officially established casting from a mold. What about the font/lettering? Will that be implemented into the mold as well?
 
In simple terms, they treat my artwork as an image. So they do not distingush the lettering as font, simply just another image to be coverted perfectly to the mold. This how I was able to get the text on the BSG tags the exact way I wanted them (this is also the reason why I could not offer custom tags because any change like a new name or the removal of text would require a new mold to be made). And to address a previous concern you mentioned, you will note the text was still sharp and crisp.
 
I'd settle for one of those, but my only concern is the body chemistry/weathering effects on the plating as well as the sawing effects of the ball chain through the hole. Tough call, I know.
 
If I can get it like that, I would give it a crystal clear enamel coat on top of the weathering. It would (obviously) help keep the weathering the way you want it, but it would probably help keep the chain from sawing through the tag. The tag doesn't weigh all that much...
 
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